Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

You won't be seeing $2m+ homes at Woodward zone with 36-40% farms rate. All of those buyers will only buy in WJ.

Yes, Tilden area should see 20% price decline minimum. Now it won't happen immediately but it will be a multi year process. 18% FARMS is way different than 36=40% FARMS and it will surley have impact.

I don't know how much the older housing stock will decline if it even does, but the hit to new construction and the $2+ million range will be instant as soon as it is announced. That market will just not exist anymore.

[Anonymous]

The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

No, Option 3 moves a portion of the Tilden kids (Farmland ES) from Tilden/WJ to Parkland/Kennedy. On the map, it's the green cluster on the western corner that gets bussed out. Farmland is in the walk zone for Tilden/Woodward. With traffic on Randolph and stops, Kennedy is easily a 40+ minute bus ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Not to mention these options will lower the FARMS rate at WJ to even lower than 18%, making the gap between Woodward and WJ even larger. WJ gains from Whitman in many scenarios, which lowers its FARMS rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

It is so evil to be concerned about sudden drop in your home value.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

It is so evil to be concerned about sudden drop in your home value.

No it isn’t.

[Anonymous]

Only people with excess wealth can claim to not care about money. It’s so wildly out of touch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

Virtuallly no one attends Luxmanor ES from neighborhood. I liked the area but I like public schools. I didn't see many kids walking to school. I chatted with crossing guard and lady told me that less than 10 kids walk to school. After hearing that I decided Luxmanor neighborhood is not for me.

I always drive my kids as the walk isn’t safe in our neighborhood. I doubt all those kids go to private.

The housing prices will not go down that much except if you overpaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

From what I have read, MCPS hasn't done much to facilitate a safe a school environment for Kennedy students. Rather than address severe deficiencies in safety and facilities, the solution can't be to send some of the Tilden community there? How does that fix these serious issues with drugs and violence?

No child should wonder if walking into their MCPS school could mean it's their "last day alive." We shouldn't want this for any of our kids and hateful comments like the one of above are not productive to the conversation.

MCPS should focus on bringing the level of all schools up with zero compromises on safety. Not bussing kids around so that their numbers look better on paper.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/02/28/kennedy-high-community-mcps-school-safety/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

Virtuallly no one attends Luxmanor ES from neighborhood. I liked the area but I like public schools. I didn't see many kids walking to school. I chatted with crossing guard and lady told me that less than 10 kids walk to school. After hearing that I decided Luxmanor neighborhood is not for me.

I always drive my kids as the walk isn’t safe in our neighborhood. I doubt all those kids go to private.

The housing prices will not go down that much except if you overpaid.

Doubling of FARMS from 20 to 40% should make a big difference. Even now Whitman houses goers for 10-15% higher than WJ on average with a same spec and that was WJ below 20% FARMS. I am very sure that 40% FARMS will pull down entire area.

[Anonymous]

I regret buying 2 years ago in Tilden area. I knew that boudary will change but I expected half of WJ will move to Woodward and then both schools will take one elemenatry each from outside.

With all 4 options, Woodward is drastically worse than WJ.

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Anonymous wrote:I regret buying 2 years ago in Tilden area. I knew that boudary will change but I expected half of WJ will move to Woodward and then both schools will take one elemenatry each from outside.

With all 4 options, Woodward is drastically worse than WJ.

Option 1 essentially does this. The problem is thst Woodward gets Viers Mill ES and WJ gets Rosemary Hills and Chevy Chase ES, so not equivalent demographically. Plus, Tilden is more diverse than North Bethesda MS to begin with because it encompasses more apartments in Rollins and off Parklawn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I regret buying 2 years ago in Tilden area. I knew that boudary will change but I expected half of WJ will move to Woodward and then both schools will take one elemenatry each from outside.

With all 4 options, Woodward is drastically worse than WJ.

Option 1 essentially does this. The problem is thst Woodward gets Viers Mill ES and WJ gets Rosemary Hills and Chevy Chase ES, so not equivalent demographically. Plus, Tilden is more diverse than North Bethesda MS to begin with because it encompasses more apartments in Rollins and off Parklawn.

Tilden has been providing most of the diversity to WJ. Basically creating another Whitman here in new WJ. It should be a very nice place. Lucky for those families, not so much for Tilden families who not only get moved out of WJ but apparently are getting moved across county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

From what I have read, MCPS hasn't done much to facilitate a safe a school environment for Kennedy students. Rather than address severe deficiencies in safety and facilities, the solution can't be to send some of the Tilden community there? How does that fix these serious issues with drugs and violence?

No child should wonder if walking into their MCPS school could mean it's their "last day alive." We shouldn't want this for any of our kids and hateful comments like the one of above are not productive to the conversation.

MCPS should focus on bringing the level of all schools up with zero compromises on safety. Not bussing kids around so that their numbers look better on paper.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/02/28/kennedy-high-community-mcps-school-safety/

This article is terrifying. Why are grown men going into Kennedy to jump students? And no this doesn’t happen at all mcps high schools. News flash: busing Tilden kids over to Kennedy isn’t going to solve that security issue (which is unacceptable to begin with).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

From what I have read, MCPS hasn't done much to facilitate a safe a school environment for Kennedy students. Rather than address severe deficiencies in safety and facilities, the solution can't be to send some of the Tilden community there? How does that fix these serious issues with drugs and violence?

No child should wonder if walking into their MCPS school could mean it's their "last day alive." We shouldn't want this for any of our kids and hateful comments like the one of above are not productive to the conversation.

MCPS should focus on bringing the level of all schools up with zero compromises on safety. Not bussing kids around so that their numbers look better on paper.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/02/28/kennedy-high-community-mcps-school-safety/

This is at every school. Be real. And, if folks are so concerned we should be diverting ore money to this school to fix things. But, that would take away money from other schools.