Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

[Anonymous]

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I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

+1 and these placea are more desirable and interesting in my opinion![/quote]

Mine too, that’s why we bought here when we had choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

lol why.

Also do you have anything beside a rumor?

Yeah I call BS. There is no way that non-Ws RM and B-CC would be allowed in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

Yep. Pretty vomit inducing. I hope these a-holes' spawn don't get assigned to my kid's DCC school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

Virtuallly no one attends Luxmanor ES from neighborhood. I liked the area but I like public schools. I didn't see many kids walking to school. I chatted with crossing guard and lady told me that less than 10 kids walk to school. After hearing that I decided Luxmanor neighborhood is not for me.

[Anonymous]

But why is Chevy Chase within walking distance to BCC being sent to Blair? Aren’t people complaining that Blair doesn’t need more students?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a capitalistic country that rewards perpetuating inequality. There is no incentive for W parents to accept diversity and redistricting. In fact, there is only incentives tied to segregation. Segregation is tied to higher property values. Families that get redistricted to Woodward from WJ will be dinged in property values even though mixing high income students with low income students should be rewarded. Meanwhile, the values of those in WJ will be rewarded. Even if MCPS balances out Whitman, the fact that Langley in FCPS is low-FARMS will result in Whitman getting dinged for doing the right thing and Langley rewarded for being segregated, as more families will just move to Langley and McLean HS if Whitman becomes 20% FARMS.

If you want an end to segregation but support neoliberal politicians and policies, you are the problem. You can’t shame W parents for trying to do their best in a capitalistic society.

This is a rather convoluted justification for resource hoarding. Damn.

We live in a society that promotes resource hoarding and inequality. Until we embrace socialism, don’t expect W parents to be on board with redistricting. There is no incentive for UMC to not self segregate in this country.

They are the ones who demanded a new school.

Is Wheaton a “W”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

You won't be seeing $2m+ homes at Woodward zone with 36-40% farms rate. All of those buyers will only buy in WJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

Tilden parants should lobby to have Woodward and WJ FAMRS close, given schools are so close.

Yes, many things are appealing but same appeal with 18% FARMS vs 40% will look different. Yes, wealthy folks will live there and send kids to private like they do in many high FARMS areas, but that's a different situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

Yep. Pretty vomit inducing. I hope these a-holes' spawn don't get assigned to my kid's DCC school

They are hoping the same thing. So it seems that it would be a win-win for everybody involved. I hope that the boundary committee is reading this forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is the boundaries need to change because there is too much segregation. Some people on here like the segregation and want to keep it that way but that is not going to happen.

Why can’t we do it through housing policy and prioritize keeping neighborhood schools?

B/c NIMBYs are all ove MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

You won't be seeing $2m+ homes at Woodward zone with 36-40% farms rate. All of those buyers will only buy in WJ.

+100

$2m+ homes at Woodward zone with 36-40% farms rate will become history. It's going to be a very painful multiyear decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

You won't be seeing $2m+ homes at Woodward zone with 36-40% farms rate. All of those buyers will only buy in WJ.

Yes, Tilden area should see 20% price decline minimum. Now it won't happen immediately but it will be a multi year process. 18% FARMS is way different than 36=40% FARMS and it will surley have impact.