Why are schools serving meat?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We know that the meat industry is inherently bad and more expensive. Why are we spending all of this money on school lunches (in a normal year) promoting bad eating habits?

Frankly I wouldn’t mind straight vegan but I know there would be some objections to that one.


No, "we" don't "know" that the meat industry is inherently bad, OP. You, on the other hand, seem to be guided by strange opinions masquerading as facts.

Most kids need to be eating more meat, not less. It is extremely difficult to get enough protein into kids (or anyone, for that matter) on a strictly plant-based diet, as the iron and other nutrients are not as bioavailable.

I want my kids to be strong and healthy. They will continue to eat meat, and yes, schools should be providing it.

A registered dietitian


+1 PREACH!

This “meat is bad” nonsense going around these days reminds me of the older, and also mistaken, ideas that eggs were bad for cholesterol and fat was evil. There are some perfectly valid questions to be asked about the state of CAFO’s and other large-scale commercial animal production setups, but that does not equal “meat is bad.” It’s literally why we possess larger brains.


Right here. Meat is not bad. TOO MUCH meat is bad. Just like everything else, it's about moderation.

The increase in homo sapien brains coincided directly with our species' transition to eating meat. You have the internet now because your ancestors ate meat. So thank a burger.


You're going to have to provide a citation for that.
Anonymous
I mean I'm not going to read it but I think you're wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean I'm not going to read it but I think you're wrong.


Oh well. Do you think any of us really care? We've all written you off as being silly about this and your opinion about meat is completely unimportant to us. So don't eat meat. Big whoop. The rest of us eat it and are happy to do so. DP.
Anonymous
I think OP has a good point, if only for environmental reasons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think OP has a good point, if only for environmental reasons.


You and OP get to make that choice for you and your families. You don't get to make that choice for other families.

And while it sounds like a good point for environmental reasons, it is bad for many other reasons. First, the vast majority, over 90% of the population is omnivorous, not herbivorous and doesn't want or like a vegetarian diet alone. Second, there is a supply chain issue even predating the pandemic. It is virtually impossible to scale vegetarian food production to the scale necessary to feed the number of children that the US school population feeds to today. Today's food production is based around consumption. There is a large meat industry that is built around providing food for the number of people necessary. The produce industry and the vegetarian protein industries are not built to scale to provide that much food. It's also not cost effective. Produce can be produced for a reasonable cost, but it doesn't scale upwards well. In order to scale upwards, you need to have enough arable land and frankly, real estate in appropriate climates that will give you sufficient arable land with a long enough growing season to make it cost effective is too expensive. You aren't going to be able to scale upwards without buying land that is more expensive due to other real estate demands (like housing and other commercial purposes). Finally, the current food production includes government assistance for various industries. If you change the menus to vegetarian or vegan foods, you'll upset certain parts of the economy and subdisidies and government purchase programs that help to sustain certain industries. There are very powerful lobbyist groups that have a lot invested in maintaining the status quo.

All in all, this concept of converting school mean programs to vegetarian is like Don Quixote's tilting at windmills. The windmill is going to strike back and hit poor Quixote on the head multiple times.

You might be able to do this on a small scale, like one school district or a handful of schools, but you're not going to get it even state-wide anywhere, let alone nationally.
Anonymous
Climate justice demands we stop people from eating meat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Climate justice demands we stop people from eating meat.


Besides quinoa, give me a high protein non-animal based product that does not contain legumes or wheat. Migraines are not to be trifled with.

Until then, I will be supplementing my diet with meat -albeit mostly from local farmers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What are you going to serve instead that most kids will eat? Give me a 5 day sample menu.


I'm sure the Vegan Teacher has some ideas : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-q4j_ttUgWmir4-Cwh_Hrg

My meat-eating kids laugh at her videos and at her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think OP has a good point, if only for environmental reasons.


Do you know how many rabbits are murdered for crop fields?

How much gas is burned shipping coconut oil and almond milk and avocados?

The most environmentally sound thing would be to feed the children local pastured chicken, pork and beef along with locally grown corn, peaches, apples, tomatoes, zucchini and other things that grow well here.

The best thing to do would be to have the chickens and a fresh vegetable garden on site so that the chickens could eat breakfast and lunch scraps and their manure could be composted for use at the garden.

FCPS could have a magnet school for regenerative agriculture, natural health and homesteading with the high school children learning how to manage animals, market products and preserve the harvest.
Anonymous
Because what you and everyone else should have learned in school is that humans evolved to eat meat, among other things.

It’s called science.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Climate justice demands we stop people from eating meat.


Besides quinoa, give me a high protein non-animal based product that does not contain legumes or wheat. Migraines are not to be trifled with.

Until then, I will be supplementing my diet with meat -albeit mostly from local farmers.


Well I am certain there are many of them.

Have you tried looking ??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Climate justice demands we stop people from eating meat.


Besides quinoa, give me a high protein non-animal based product that does not contain legumes or wheat. Migraines are not to be trifled with.

Until then, I will be supplementing my diet with meat -albeit mostly from local farmers.


Well I am certain there are many of them.

Have you tried looking ??


I am not a vegetarian, but there are other plenty of other sources. I'm not sure why legumes are off-limits. Is previous PP suggesting that legumes cause migraines? It happens for some people, but that's a rare reaction.

Nonetheless, there are other vegetarian proteins:
Nuts are a good source of non-animal protein. You can use the whole nuts, nut butters, nut milks, or nut meals.
Soy (tofu, tempeh, and edamame and soy milk) is a good source of protein.
Nutritional yeast is a vegetarian and comes in powdered form and can be added to various foods to add non-animal protein to a diet.
Wild rice is a grain, but not wheat and contains a significantly higher amount of protein than other types of rice.
Chia seeds also have significant amount of protein and can be added to many foods and recipes.

The good thing about additives like nurtritional yeast, chia and nut meals is that you can add them to many recipes that you already use to add protein to the recipe.

Yes, you have a problem if legumes and wheat products cause you migraines, but there are still many other sources of protein available. The issue with schools not serving meat is that many of the vegetarian options to provide as complete a nutritional menu, are either more expensive or harder to scale upwards in terms of mass production for large groups. That doesn't mean that a vegetarian diet for a limited group like a family, individual or small group is not sustainable.
Anonymous
Because humans eat meat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We know that the meat industry is inherently bad and more expensive. Why are we spending all of this money on school lunches (in a normal year) promoting bad eating habits?

Frankly I wouldn’t mind straight vegan but I know there would be some objections to that one.


Not eating meat is wrong. Wrong for kids most of all. Nothing wrong with meat industry. People are fools.



NO. You are wrong.


Aww, you’re cute. And you’re still wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Climate justice demands we stop people from eating meat.


You can’t “stop people” from doing a damn thing. Take a seat.
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