5th Grade CogAT : Number Correct
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Anonymous
PP. No, "prepping" is sending your child to a weekend, semester-long, class that explicitly teachers kids how to take CogAt, coupled with 5 timed mock-tests, like 3 parents of a certain race do. Getting a book - a pretty crappy one, at that - off Amazon and having your child go through it the afternoon before the test is not prepping. |
Anonymous
They are taking 100 kids each program. Your changes of getting off the wait list are slim. |
Anonymous
That's great for your child. And there are a lot of kids with much higher scores who did not get in. Mine got 99% across the board, (though the Quant was 92% for MCPS) high 5 on PARCC, 99% MAP, all A's, etc, etc. and was in the CES. We did no test prep (had no idea people actually prepped their 10 year old's for this stuff, but should have known better!). I knew from seeing comments last year with very high scorers not getting in that acceptance was pretty unlikely, and made sure to prepare my kid for that possibility. He did not get in to either TPMS or Eastern. Just because this isn't your experience, doesn't mean other people are lying. |
Anonymous
Then 1) you didn’t get 99 percent across the board and 2) your kid’s score was lower than mine. I think the thing here is that people exaggerate their scores by saying things like “99 percent across the board” when they mean 92% quant. |
Anonymous
Really? Based on what? Do you know how many were accepted last year? Or how many are in the waitlist? Our how many were offered spots at both magnets? My kid is thrilled with TPMS but not knowing the answers to those questions and knowing many parents we’ll decide to keep their kid at their local school I think there’s a reasonable chance of getting off the waitlist at Eastern, at least until I get more definitive info to the contrary. |
Anonymous
| Not that PP, but I think what she meant is 99% across the board using the national scores. The problem is that you can take two kids with identical raw scores who are both at 99% on the national scores, and one might be at 99% for their MCPS percentile and the other might be at 92% for their MCPS percentile. I think it's kind of misleading for MCPS to report it this way, even though I understand their intent in trying to give more spots to kids from poorer schools. But they should call the MCPS percentile something different, or at least report three different percentiles, so parents can see what their kids really stand in comparison to other kids in this school district. |
Anonymous
MCPS Cogat scores were 92% quant, and 99% for V and NV. MAP scores were 240 and 248 and Parcc scores were 5. So your kid's score was higher than mine in one metric while mine was higher in others. And it was 99% across the board until seeing the MCPS adjusted Cogats yesterday, so it was not an exaggeration. I realize it's ridiculous to compare kids' scores like this, but the point is there are hundreds if not thousands of kids in MCPS who are qualified, capable and would benefit greatly from the Magnet program. Unfortunately there are not enough spots for them all. Your kid was lucky to get one, but it would do you well to have a little humility instead of assuming that everyone on here is a liar and your child is more deserving of this opportunity. |
Anonymous
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98Q national -> 93Q Mcps
99Q national -> 92Q Mcps You two are in different band |
Anonymous
| Exactly the point of the second PP. |
Anonymous
People often exaggerate on DCUM. Consider that 90% of posters have kids in the 1%. |
Anonymous
Again, consider that 90% of posters are here specifically because their kids are in the 1% Most people don’t care about the magnets. |
Anonymous
NP. My DC has a similar profile and I also prepared him for the likelihood that he'll go to the home MS; he's actually preferred that plan all along (fear of the unknown, since kids in our neighborhood all go to the local MS). So I'm heartened that he will have other bright kids in his class like yours whose parent have healthy attitudes... assuming that even if yours has a different MS there are at least other parents like you out there! |
Anonymous
I’m the 98/93 poster above and I’m know I’m not exaggerating but there’s no way for you to know if that’s true. Another factor worth mentioning is that the letter cites the age normed national percentages not the grade percentages. My child is extremely young compared to the rest of the grade so this was helpful. |
Anonymous
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Yes, for whatever reason they used the age normed, not the grade normed, which disadvantaged somewhat the kids with fall birthdays (and the red-shirted kids), and advantaged the younger kids in the grade. Since it's an achievement test and not an IQ test, I think it was wildly inappropriate to use the age norms and not the grade norms, as you would not normally think a 5th grader should be compared to a 6th grader in achievement (unless you were prepping that kid outside of school).
I don't care that much, as I didn't want my kid to go to one of those schools, but I just think it's an example of MCPS being sort of irrational about much of this. |
Anonymous
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This thread is cracking me up--it's so much like College Confidential around the time college decisions are released, down to checking UPS notifications to see what kind of package will be arriving.
Here are my kid's stats: Cogat raw scores V55, Q47, NV 39 (the lowest I've seen on here), which translates to MCPS V97%, Q93%, NV79%, and national 99%, 99%, and 93% for a 99% composite (VQN). Fall Map-M 249, Map-R 238. 5s on PARCC All As Recommended for both Eastern and TPMS. White boy, high SES (Whitman feeder) ES, not CES. No prepping. Didn't realize he took the Cogat, and, in fact, never heard of it before we got the letter in the mail yesterday. Had not considered the possibility of magnets, so this is all a surprise. You know what's funny? A lot of us will likely be at one open house or the other. Should we have a secret DCUM sign, or would you prefer to pretend you've never even heard of this site? |