Villarreal Virginia Academy: imploding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at the oldest age groups to see what the “philosophy” brings out of players who are closest to the age of the senior Villarreal team in la liga or its reserve team. They predominantly just play direct to big/fast forwards.

well , this is the same Bo and other so-called coaches had advocated for past 20 years here in the US. Most win HS games this way too. Far from real soccer - different sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latest update from VIVA

Spain only knows Bo and Carlos and they have determined they have a valid contract with Annandale United Futbol Club (AUFC). The lawyers determined that there are sufficient legal documents showing that AUFC is owned by Bo; therefore, Bo (and Carlos) had the ability to create Villarreal Virginia Academy (VIVA) when they partnered with Villarreal CF Spain. Ergo, there remains a valid partnership between VIVA and Villarreal CF Spain that will continue.



Their main goal was to start to establish a relationship and grow the project (VIVA). It was a great effort by the coaches to transform into the Villarreal CF Spain methodology to: adapt, accept, and change.



Villarreal did not formally meet with ABGC until late October/early November 2018 when they had dinner. Villarreal has no agreement with ABGC. Nowhere in any contract with Villarreal CF Spain is "ABGC" mentioned.



It is anticipated that Juan, Julio's boss, will write something for the families in a few days (near future). I think we anticipate this will be something favorable.



Summer field permits are in place (Pine Ridge and Mason??)



Fall field permits are dependent on the # of registered players and location of these players. However, it is anticipated we will have fields in the same general vicinity, perhaps even the same fields.



Villarreal CF Spain plans to continue their VIVA development with video analysis of players and coaches. Julio may not return; however, he will direct the coaching staff that does come to train our coaches and players. They very much want to build on the success that makes VIVA special.



Julio showed a quick presentation that recapped the goal to "build partnerships" to grow the program. It included a slide on working to develop VIVA coaches and players. And it also included the slide (we have seen before) depicting the goals: soccer awareness football IQ; Character, leader; and Competence.



The "now" plan is to continue with a goal of let's see where we go...



It is anticipated they will return in the fall for shorter stays and follow us from Spain. Bo and Carlos came in later and committed to maintain a full-time Spanish presence with VIVA.



Bo and Carlos discussed that coaches still cannot openly/publicly discuss where they are going until this current contracts are finished, around June 16th when summer season commences.

To parnets - do not be fulled here!!!! Summer permits are in place - they are easy to get since no one wants them. Fall is a different story, if they do not get a sufficient number of players, they will be on the grass at elementary schools together with all abgc rec teams with no lights. So hurry up and sign for VIVA - your pathway to pro soccer or may be to a waste of another season. Soccer parents, why these coaches always think we are idiots? FYI, most of the top kids have already signed with Arlington, Mclean etc. Lots of young ones went to Olympiacos from what I heard.

[Anonymous]

I think it depends on the year. Some teams seem very light, others look to be the same as last year. I'm sure it depends on how well the team did last year.

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Anonymous wrote: Olympaicos DC Academy based in Falls Church/Annandale still has a couple of spots on 08 and 07 teams.

Here is the academy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xj1uXHYAUA


https://olympiacosdc.com/

My son plays there for 05s and it is a great year-around program that includes monthly player evaluations, fitness testing and video/classroom sessions. We have been involved in travel soccer in the area for a number of years and never experienced anything like this. Olympiacos DC has only one team per age group and they really focus on player development - not on numbers. Wish all of the soccer parents best of luck!

Lol they had 9 players show up for the whole tournament!!!!!


I’m sure no one wants to play in ODSL

or for a Greek team at that.

And look at how an Viva team plays at "higher level" league performed at recent tournament. That is a big 0 - 4 record.

VIRGINIAN ELITE SOCCER TOURNAMENT 2019
Saturday, May 25, 2019
VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 1 HERNDON YOUTH SOCCER CICLONES WHITE 3
FC DULLES UNITED ACADEMY GOLD 05 3 VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 1
Sunday, May 26, 2019
VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 0 HIGH PERFORMANCE HPSC BULLDOGS 05 2
OLYMPIACOS DC 05 BOYS 5 VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 1

They had 9 players show up for the whole tournament!!!

Flat out lie.

I mean they were tied to olympiacos with 9 men until the final 10 mins

This is a flat out lie!!! Olympiacos also played 9 players as a favor. I am one of the parents and I was at the game. Olympiacos had stopped attacking after first half and only moved the ball around. They also did not use the top 3 guys and used no subs. Resting players for the final. Nothing was close to a tie. Completely different level - all Viva parents saw it. So do not know who is lying here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haha! Are you uninformed or intentionally misleading?

Their top teams (NPL) played at the MD Sportsplex not the Virginian.

Yes and they did well there. Minor problem - all of these kids have already signed with other clubs. They are not with VIVA.

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Anonymous wrote: Olympaicos DC Academy based in Falls Church/Annandale still has a couple of spots on 08 and 07 teams.

Here is the academy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xj1uXHYAUA


https://olympiacosdc.com/

My son plays there for 05s and it is a great year-around program that includes monthly player evaluations, fitness testing and video/classroom sessions. We have been involved in travel soccer in the area for a number of years and never experienced anything like this. Olympiacos DC has only one team per age group and they really focus on player development - not on numbers. Wish all of the soccer parents best of luck!

I’m sure no one wants to play in ODSL

or for a Greek team at that.

And look at how an Viva team plays at "higher level" league performed at recent tournament. That is a big 0 - 4 record.

VIRGINIAN ELITE SOCCER TOURNAMENT 2019
Saturday, May 25, 2019
VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 1 HERNDON YOUTH SOCCER CICLONES WHITE 3
FC DULLES UNITED ACADEMY GOLD 05 3 VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 1
Sunday, May 26, 2019
VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 0 HIGH PERFORMANCE HPSC BULLDOGS 05 2
OLYMPIACOS DC 05 BOYS 5 VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY 2005 YELLOW 1

I think this was their second team.

It was a second team. A good organization should have a descent second and third teams as well. Especially if affiliated with the top European Academy. In a good organization more than 9 kids show to the tournament game as well. This only happens if the organization is falling apart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s not why they had a bad season though, that has been the approach for years. As for their actual academy in Spain, that’s great, but who are the coaches who were sent over to VIVA? What are their names, positions, level of involvement?

Villarreal cf sent one of their directors of methodology(they only have three). The director of methodology is named julio and he picks a guys from spain that he thinks that will suit the players at viva.

Methodology of any European Academy is based on selected talented players who are selected at the age of 5. This methodology hardly works here with all sorts of older players who do not have basic technical and tactical foundation thx to the American system and coaches.
Therefore, Julio could not change anything - too many unskilled underdeveloped kids and bunch of poorly educated coaches. Not sure if Pep Guardiola would have been able to do anything here . The situation is a loss right from the start. Need our own methodology of developing kids at 12-13 given the fact that they did not have any proper development prior to that. Huge challenge - not for Julio and not for a couple of seasons. Need like 6 years starting with u8s now. Unfortunately, even in 6 years it may not work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote: Olympaicos DC Academy based in Falls Church/Annandale still has a couple of spots on 08 and 07 teams.

Here is the academy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xj1uXHYAUA


https://olympiacosdc.com/

My son plays there for 05s and it is a great year-around program that includes monthly player evaluations, fitness testing and video/classroom sessions. We have been involved in travel soccer in the area for a number of years and never experienced anything like this. Olympiacos DC has only one team per age group and they really focus on player development - not on numbers. Wish all of the soccer parents best of luck!

I’m sure no one wants to play in ODSL

or for a Greek team at that.

RE ODSL -- This is a starting League and is looking to grow into more competitive markets. True, they did tear up ODSL -- in 8 Fall games in their age group they won 55-7. But that really isn't the point. The real benefit of Olympiacos is that they teach European soccer. Their active defense scores about 10 offside calls per half, even against some awesome teams. The good teams adjust and usually still get called for 4 offisde in the 2nd half. The mids and forwards are passing, not kicking, into space. When opportunities are not there, they are taught to pass back to teammates who then quickly redirect the attack. Well, have to cut this short. Have to take the boy to our monthly film session. .... does that help? Yeah, I see improvement from all of the boys, especially in the areas addressed at the film sessions.

I would argue, come to a training session and see what you think. My understanding is that they still are looking for 05 07 and 08 players.

every club claims European/Best Soccer. Is this Greek team good in Europe to say they can teach good soccer? I imagine the pro players must be beating every European Soccer team and winning trophies

Should we jump every time we hear European soccer academy? Villareal, Juventus all these teams are in the area now should I join them or some low Greek league which is worst than the MLS. Hope you know not EVERY European country is good. Whats next Russian soccer coming to town?

Fully agree, we should not jump for any of the Euro soccer Academies. But let's not be ignorant. Russian team was a goal away from a final al last WCup, Greece had won a European Cup a while ago. The US Nat team was lead by the Greek coach for a number of years. Can these teams teach good soccer? May be. Why not. VillaReal is at the bottom of the Laliga this year. Olympiacos is on top of their fairly strong league. Does any of this really matter? I think not. Using this logic DC United should not have the academy since they do not play good soccer and at the bottom of MLS. What matters is - the coaches you have on the filed. If they are good - players develop. Currently Olympiacos has very good coaches. Having only one small team per age group also helps the development of players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latest update from VIVA

Spain only knows Bo and Carlos and they have determined they have a valid contract with Annandale United Futbol Club (AUFC). The lawyers determined that there are sufficient legal documents showing that AUFC is owned by Bo; therefore, Bo (and Carlos) had the ability to create Villarreal Virginia Academy (VIVA) when they partnered with Villarreal CF Spain. Ergo, there remains a valid partnership between VIVA and Villarreal CF Spain that will continue.



Their main goal was to start to establish a relationship and grow the project (VIVA). It was a great effort by the coaches to transform into the Villarreal CF Spain methodology to: adapt, accept, and change.



Villarreal did not formally meet with ABGC until late October/early November 2018 when they had dinner. Villarreal has no agreement with ABGC. Nowhere in any contract with Villarreal CF Spain is "ABGC" mentioned.



It is anticipated that Juan, Julio's boss, will write something for the families in a few days (near future). I think we anticipate this will be something favorable.



Summer field permits are in place (Pine Ridge and Mason??)



Fall field permits are dependent on the # of registered players and location of these players. However, it is anticipated we will have fields in the same general vicinity, perhaps even the same fields.



Villarreal CF Spain plans to continue their VIVA development with video analysis of players and coaches. Julio may not return; however, he will direct the coaching staff that does come to train our coaches and players. They very much want to build on the success that makes VIVA special.



Julio showed a quick presentation that recapped the goal to "build partnerships" to grow the program. It included a slide on working to develop VIVA coaches and players. And it also included the slide (we have seen before) depicting the goals: soccer awareness football IQ; Character, leader; and Competence.



The "now" plan is to continue with a goal of let's see where we go...



It is anticipated they will return in the fall for shorter stays and follow us from Spain. Bo and Carlos came in later and committed to maintain a full-time Spanish presence with VIVA.



Bo and Carlos discussed that coaches still cannot openly/publicly discuss where they are going until this current contracts are finished, around June 16th when summer season commences.

well, sorry Bo and Carlos, but … lets put things in perspective here. All sounds very uncertain and conditional. Let's start with the fields - if not enough kids sign up, they will get grass fields at elementary schools in the fall. VReal is basically pulling out - Julio will not return, coaches may come for a few days and will coach remotely form Spain All sounds like they are on the way out. Sort of giving another chance until next screw up which will most likely happen given Carlos's expertise.

All of this is nothing compared to financial problems. Bo is used to getting paid 80K. But now he will not even be able to pay himself. After paying for the fields and other coaches will be nothing left. These guys are coaches - not business people.

Their thing will fold after the fall season. Sponsor are also not lining up. Best kids have already signed with other clubs. I like Bo, and feel sorry for him. He had a good job and now had been played by Carlos. Bo hates Laliga and Spanish soccer, which he sated to many players and parent on the filed just a couple of years ago. Now he has to kiss some Spanish a....s Sorry Bo.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch a VIVA team play all they do is play direct to big, fast forwards. As soon as they start to struggle with the build-up coaches freak out and abandon the game plan. Nothing wrong with that of course, but don’t be s hypocrite.

That is why bo and carlos brought the spanish coaches, to change the style more effectively. The spanish coaches are teaching to the coaches not to do that what every American coach does.

Makes NO sense - if Bo was so great and put so many kids in colleges, why he could not teach the coaches. Spanish coaches had minimal to zero impact over a year. All BS.

What's the situation for next year. Are they going to be able to field teams? Saw today that they announced that they are in VPL. Is there no case against them as previously mentioned on these pages?

They may get a couple of teams. But... will struggle financially and will not get turf fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest update from VIVA

Spain only knows Bo and Carlos and they have determined they have a valid contract with Annandale United Futbol Club (AUFC). The lawyers determined that there are sufficient legal documents showing that AUFC is owned by Bo; therefore, Bo (and Carlos) had the ability to create Villarreal Virginia Academy (VIVA) when they partnered with Villarreal CF Spain. Ergo, there remains a valid partnership between VIVA and Villarreal CF Spain that will continue.



Their main goal was to start to establish a relationship and grow the project (VIVA). It was a great effort by the coaches to transform into the Villarreal CF Spain methodology to: adapt, accept, and change.



Villarreal did not formally meet with ABGC until late October/early November 2018 when they had dinner. Villarreal has no agreement with ABGC. Nowhere in any contract with Villarreal CF Spain is "ABGC" mentioned.



It is anticipated that Juan, Julio's boss, will write something for the families in a few days (near future). I think we anticipate this will be something favorable.



Summer field permits are in place (Pine Ridge and Mason??)



Fall field permits are dependent on the # of registered players and location of these players. However, it is anticipated we will have fields in the same general vicinity, perhaps even the same fields.



Villarreal CF Spain plans to continue their VIVA development with video analysis of players and coaches. Julio may not return; however, he will direct the coaching staff that does come to train our coaches and players. They very much want to build on the success that makes VIVA special.



Julio showed a quick presentation that recapped the goal to "build partnerships" to grow the program. It included a slide on working to develop VIVA coaches and players. And it also included the slide (we have seen before) depicting the goals: soccer awareness football IQ; Character, leader; and Competence.



The "now" plan is to continue with a goal of let's see where we go...



It is anticipated they will return in the fall for shorter stays and follow us from Spain. Bo and Carlos came in later and committed to maintain a full-time Spanish presence with VIVA.



Bo and Carlos discussed that coaches still cannot openly/publicly discuss where they are going until this current contracts are finished, around June 16th when summer season commences.

well, sorry Bo and Carlos, but … lets put things in perspective here. All sounds very uncertain and conditional. Let's start with the fields - if not enough kids sign up, they will get grass fields at elementary schools in the fall. VReal is basically pulling out - Julio will not return, coaches may come for a few days and will coach remotely form Spain All sounds like they are on the way out. Sort of giving another chance until next screw up which will most likely happen given Carlos's expertise.

All of this is nothing compared to financial problems. Bo is used to getting paid 80K. But now he will not even be able to pay himself. After paying for the fields and other coaches will be nothing left. These guys are coaches - not business people.

Their thing will fold after the fall season. Sponsor are also not lining up. Best kids have already signed with other clubs. I like Bo, and feel sorry for him. He had a good job and now had been played by Carlos. Bo hates Laliga and Spanish soccer, which he sated to many players and parent on the filed just a couple of years ago. Now he has to kiss some Spanish a....s Sorry Bo.

Last part is funny. Unfortunately ABGC/VIVA have and will continue to be poorly managed. Too bad for a club that has a large community and could have done much better with what they had available. Bo/Kip and many of those that have been around for a long time should have been gone years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Olympaicos DC Academy based in Falls Church/Annandale still has a couple of spots on 08 and 07 teams.

Here is the academy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xj1uXHYAUA


https://olympiacosdc.com/

My son plays there for 05s and it is a great year-around program that includes monthly player evaluations, fitness testing and video/classroom sessions. We have been involved in travel soccer in the area for a number of years and never experienced anything like this. Olympiacos DC has only one team per age group and they really focus on player development - not on numbers. Wish all of the soccer parents best of luck!

I’m sure no one wants to play in ODSL

or for a Greek team at that.

RE ODSL -- This is a starting League and is looking to grow into more competitive markets. True, they did tear up ODSL -- in 8 Fall games in their age group they won 55-7. But that really isn't the point. The real benefit of Olympiacos is that they teach European soccer. Their active defense scores about 10 offside calls per half, even against some awesome teams. The good teams adjust and usually still get called for 4 offisde in the 2nd half. The mids and forwards are passing, not kicking, into space. When opportunities are not there, they are taught to pass back to teammates who then quickly redirect the attack. Well, have to cut this short. Have to take the boy to our monthly film session. .... does that help? Yeah, I see improvement from all of the boys, especially in the areas addressed at the film sessions.

I would argue, come to a training session and see what you think. My understanding is that they still are looking for 05 07 and 08 players.

every club claims European/Best Soccer. Is this Greek team good in Europe to say they can teach good soccer? I imagine the pro players must be beating every European Soccer team and winning trophies

Should we jump every time we hear European soccer academy? Villareal, Juventus all these teams are in the area now should I join them or some low Greek league which is worst than the MLS. Hope you know not EVERY European country is good. Whats next Russian soccer coming to town?

Fully agree, we should not jump for any of the Euro soccer Academies. But let's not be ignorant. Russian team was a goal away from a final al last WCup, Greece had won a European Cup a while ago. The US Nat team was lead by the Greek coach for a number of years. Can these teams teach good soccer? May be. Why not. VillaReal is at the bottom of the Laliga this year. Olympiacos is on top of their fairly strong league. Does any of this really matter? I think not. Using this logic DC United should not have the academy since they do not play good soccer and at the bottom of MLS. What matters is - the coaches you have on the filed. If they are good - players develop. Currently Olympiacos has very good coaches. Having only one small team per age group also helps the development of players.

Stop trying to make Olympiacos a thing. DC United are currently one of the top teams in MLS unless you’re still stuck a couple seasons back.

[Anonymous]

Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

[Anonymous]

This *site* is talking about many different soccer-related topics