Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm commenting on the over-the-top crazies who strap themselves to this issue while likely not troubling themselves with really serious issues in this world. It's way out of proportion. And sad.

WHO ARE YOU CALLING OVER THE TOP CRAZY? DCPS BOUNDARY TERRORISTS ARE THE SINGLE GREATEST SCOURGE OF HUMANITY, PERIOD. ADOLF HITLER HAS NOTHING ON THESE DEGENERATE BASTARDS. AAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anybody who challenges justice crazed posters on these threads is obviously a....cheater.

I posted about the creeps but don't rent a studio or own a scnd house for a school address. My terrific neighbors of 15 years do the latter.

If a DCPS investigator ever comes knocking, I'll do or say whatever I can to help them stay next-door.

So cheating is ok because they're nice? What if they weren't nice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm commenting on the over-the-top crazies who strap themselves to this issue while likely not troubling themselves with really serious issues in this world. It's way out of proportion. And sad.

WHO ARE YOU CALLING OVER THE TOP CRAZY? DCPS BOUNDARY TERRORISTS ARE THE SINGLE GREATEST SCOURGE OF HUMANITY, PERIOD. ADOLF HITLER HAS NOTHING ON THESE DEGENERATE BASTARDS. AAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Calm down. Nobody said boundary cheating is the worst thing in the world. But it is, in fact, fraud legally. And it's cheating, morally. I'm not going out of my way to find boundary cheaters. But if you cheat, why do you expect that people won't call you cheaters? You don't get to both cheat, and then get incensed when people call you a cheater. That's not the way it works.

[Anonymous]

The deputy mayor cheats and you think OP should feel guilty?

[Anonymous]

Boundary cheating is boundary cheating, it's not fraud. Boundary cheaters are DC taxpayers. Let's not confuse them with VA and MD non-taxpayers committing residency fraud. Apples and oranges. Both are bad, but not to the same degree.

[Anonymous]

These posts die every time true boundary cheaters are exposed and parents get squeamish about taking on the politically connected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The deputy mayor cheats and you think OP should feel guilty?

How does him cheating absolute OP of guilt, or how SHOULD it absolve her? Two wrongs (or 500) do not make it right. The fact that it's common doesn't make it right. Rules SHOULD matter in a civilized society. People who break them should be punished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The deputy mayor cheats and you think OP should feel guilty?

Could you repeat that one more time? It wasn't clear the last three. Who cheats, again? The deputy mayor, is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The deputy mayor cheats and you think OP should feel guilty?

The deputy mayor asked for a special placement and got it, because of who he is. He is using a legal loophole, and in my opinion, should be told to stop at the end of the school year.

In fact, any family in DC can ask the chancellor for a special placement to any DCPS school outside the lottery process although chances of getting one are slim.

But he's not CHEATING.

Cheating is when you don't disclose where you really live and present fraudulent documents.

Both are wrong. You can decide and debate which is worse.

[Anonymous]

This thread is so TEDIOUS. And it's always the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so TEDIOUS. And it's always the same.

So why are you following it ?

[Anonymous]

I have neighbors who do this and it's permanently awkward around them. They stopped posting on Facebook for example, or sharing any school-related matter. Okay, there is definitely other stuff to talk about but still. As can be expected, their kids are doing no different, except maybe that they know more about deception now. I'm thinking, as parents, they may have an easier time because they can hang back and let the rest of the type A parents at that school do the work. Not sure what's in, really. Seeing our children do so well at "non-preferred" schools, I really don't know what the benefit would be. Not worth the money, and certainly not worth the permanent hassle and deception IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A number of relevant issues aren't addressed in the OSSE rules on school residency, or DCPS policy either.

- We're a multi-generational family moving between two houses we own in our neighborhood, half a mile apart. Our family members spend time at both houses almost every day.

-The city has never hassled us about using one house or the other for residency, tax filings etc., but there was a parent initiated attempt to "bust" us.

I'd be really glad to see the rules firmed up for the common good.

I don't agree that schools would be better if everyone "stayed home." Most high SES parents will move or go private before they'll send their children to schools they aren't comfortable with, which doesn't help poor kids in DC. I'm tired of seeing friends who loved a DCPS or charter school in the lower grades, and got involved in the PTA, bail for VA or MD by 3rd or 4th grade.

Or you put an end to the endless boundary cheating and maybe you are able to cluster enough higher SES populations in clusters east of the park to get another set or two of high performing schools.

And part of how you accomplish that is you lift up (or relocate if you want to be un PC) some of the kids from lower performing schools by giving the scarce WOTP slots to them instead of to upper middle class kids.

I went through my JKLM kids directory last night as most of the OOB kids are from Mt Pleasant, Georgetown, Columbia Heights and oddly other WOTP neighborhoods.

If those OOB kids were replaced by lower performing kids from EOTP while the higher performing kids were successfully clustered in actual EOTP schools you'd get some averaging of the schools and lots of privileged kids (and more importantly their parents) would actually be exposed to some actual economic and ethnic diversity at school which currently an awful lot of folks are finding ways to avoid.

The current practices benefit some individuals but don't net out to benefiting the system as a whole and leave a cohort of left behind kids in schools with incredible odds against success because of their low SES mix but in a city with more and more middle class families there is no excuse for not doing a better job getting more diverse and successful schools.

And yes I am a WOTP parent but I do think bringing in some disadvantaged kids would be an additional but reasonable burden to those privileged schools hence giving us some skin in the game but it is ridiculous to have schools bursting at the seems to accommodate middle class familes gaming the system rather than kids who actually need a boost.

Most schools WOTP do have 7-10%+ economically disadvantaged plus other at at risk students. Only Janney is at an untenable 1%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A number of relevant issues aren't addressed in the OSSE rules on school residency, or DCPS policy either.

- We're a multi-generational family moving between two houses we own in our neighborhood, half a mile apart. Our family members spend time at both houses almost every day.

-The city has never hassled us about using one house or the other for residency, tax filings etc., but there was a parent initiated attempt to "bust" us.

I'd be really glad to see the rules firmed up for the common good.

I don't agree that schools would be better if everyone "stayed home." Most high SES parents will move or go private before they'll send their children to schools they aren't comfortable with, which doesn't help poor kids in DC. I'm tired of seeing friends who loved a DCPS or charter school in the lower grades, and got involved in the PTA, bail for VA or MD by 3rd or 4th grade.

Or you put an end to the endless boundary cheating and maybe you are able to cluster enough higher SES populations in clusters east of the park to get another set or two of high performing schools.

And part of how you accomplish that is you lift up (or relocate if you want to be un PC) some of the kids from lower performing schools by giving the scarce WOTP slots to them instead of to upper middle class kids.

I went through my JKLM kids directory last night as most of the OOB kids are from Mt Pleasant, Georgetown, Columbia Heights and oddly other WOTP neighborhoods.

If those OOB kids were replaced by lower performing kids from EOTP while the higher performing kids were successfully clustered in actual EOTP schools you'd get some averaging of the schools and lots of privileged kids (and more importantly their parents) would actually be exposed to some actual economic and ethnic diversity at school which currently an awful lot of folks are finding ways to avoid.

The current practices benefit some individuals but don't net out to benefiting the system as a whole and leave a cohort of left behind kids in schools with incredible odds against success because of their low SES mix but in a city with more and more middle class families there is no excuse for not doing a better job getting more diverse and successful schools.

And yes I am a WOTP parent but I do think bringing in some disadvantaged kids would be an additional but reasonable burden to those privileged schools hence giving us some skin in the game but it is ridiculous to have schools bursting at the seems to accommodate middle class familes gaming the system rather than kids who actually need a boost.

Most schools WOTP do have 7-10%+ economically disadvantaged plus other at at risk students. Only Janney is at an untenable 1%.

Right - but Janney does still have a contingent of OOB. And I presume the other WOTP schools also have a contingent of OOB middle class kids? Middle class kids should not have access to the OOB slots at WOTP schools.

[Anonymous]

I think this is actually allowed. You just have to live in the apartment at the time you register for school. Then you can “move” back and stay in the school through it and its feeder pattern. Someone posted the regs a while back.