Has Yale Become a PC Joke?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

You miss the point. This is not about admissions.
If you are a normal parent, not a tiger mom, I expect that your kid would have a measure of self-reliance in adapting and navigating the new-to-them college environment. Most kids do.
The entitlement exhibited to the kids in the video is staggering. I wonder how much coddling, ahem, support, was promised to them and by who.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

You miss the point. This is not about admissions.
If you are a normal parent, not a tiger mom, I expect that your kid would have a measure of self-reliance in adapting and navigating the new-to-them college environment. Most kids do.
The entitlement exhibited to the kids in the video is staggering. I wonder how much coddling, ahem, support, was promised to them and by who.

Their parents who raised them to be narcissists in a child-centered home, that's who. And the fact that their high school teachers were probably afraid of losing their jobs if they dared to be curt or raise their voice in the classroom to call these kids out and insist they STFU and learn something. I recall episodes ten years ago when some SJW would raise their hand and complain about the homework assignment offending them or the workload "upsetting" them. So, we have a years long trend of zero accountability and self awareness that has led us to the social tragedy we see unfolding now.

-Recent Alum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

PP here. Given the 6.3% admission rate(!!!!!), I'd love to know too. Seriously, admissions rejected 19 out of every 20 applicants last year--and this is the *best* they could do?

[Anonymous]

It wouldn't surprise me a majority of Yale alumni end of voting for Trump next year, if he becomes a presidential nominee. This PC BS has become ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

PP here. Given the 6.3% admission rate(!!!!!), I'd love to know too. Seriously, admissions rejected 19 out of every 20 applicants last year--and this is the *best* they could do?

+1. The other problem is academics and "student life." If those same students were exposed to a much more challenging, hard-work culture from day 1, chances are they would wise up quickly.

But I guess academic standards at Yale, especially in some departments, have become a joke by now.

Not surprising, then, that students need to find more stimulating things to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

PP here. Given the 6.3% admission rate(!!!!!), I'd love to know too. Seriously, admissions rejected 19 out of every 20 applicants last year--and this is the *best* they could do?

+1. The other problem is academics and "student life." If those same students were exposed to a much more challenging, hard-work culture from day 1, chances are they would wise up quickly.

But I guess academic standards at Yale, especially in some departments, have become a joke by now.

Not surprising, then, that students need to find more stimulating things to do.

Read the "Coddling of the American Mind" article and check out the issue they had at Columbia. Kids are enrolling in humanities classes then demanding to opt out of reading Greek poetry because the violence and sexual imagery triggers them. Ivies like Harvard and Yale are notorious for grade inflation and these days the hardest part is getting accepted. After that it's smooth sailing and profs and student life will cater to your every whim if you throw the victim card and scream the loudest.

These two Atlantic articles should be essential reading for any parent with kids in college or headed to college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These two Atlantic articles should be essential reading for any parent with kids in college or headed to college.

My college student forwarded me the link to the Atlantic - that's how I learned about this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

PP here. Given the 6.3% admission rate(!!!!!), I'd love to know too. Seriously, admissions rejected 19 out of every 20 applicants last year--and this is the *best* they could do?

+1. The other problem is academics and "student life." If those same students were exposed to a much more challenging, hard-work culture from day 1, chances are they would wise up quickly.

But I guess academic standards at Yale, especially in some departments, have become a joke by now.

Not surprising, then, that students need to find more stimulating things to do.

Read the "Coddling of the American Mind" article and check out the issue they had at Columbia. Kids are enrolling in humanities classes then demanding to opt out of reading Greek poetry because the violence and sexual imagery triggers them. Ivies like Harvard and Yale are notorious for grade inflation and these days the hardest part is getting accepted. After that it's smooth sailing and profs and student life will cater to your every whim if you throw the victim card and scream the loudest.

These two Atlantic articles should be essential reading for any parent with kids in college or headed to college.

Thank you, I will read them.

What's the best university up in Canada

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

PP here. Given the 6.3% admission rate(!!!!!), I'd love to know too. Seriously, admissions rejected 19 out of every 20 applicants last year--and this is the *best* they could do?

+1. The other problem is academics and "student life." If those same students were exposed to a much more challenging, hard-work culture from day 1, chances are they would wise up quickly.

But I guess academic standards at Yale, especially in some departments, have become a joke by now.

Not surprising, then, that students need to find more stimulating things to do.

Read the "Coddling of the American Mind" article and check out the issue they had at Columbia. Kids are enrolling in humanities classes then demanding to opt out of reading Greek poetry because the violence and sexual imagery triggers them. Ivies like Harvard and Yale are notorious for grade inflation and these days the hardest part is getting accepted. After that it's smooth sailing and profs and student life will cater to your every whim if you throw the victim card and scream the loudest.

These two Atlantic articles should be essential reading for any parent with kids in college or headed to college.

Thank you, I will read them.

What's the best university up in Canada

That's one option...

But I'm sure there's much less BS going on at science-focused schools such as Stanford, Berkeley, MIT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.

+1. I'm Jewish and my father and grandfather went to Yale. The "oppression" these morons claim they face is nothing compared to the overt discrimination and quotas Jews had to deal with in the early-mid 20th century.

As a white man I'm glad I passed on Yale. New England winters and distance from home were big factors, but as another poster said it seemed like a really shitty and morose place to be a straight white male these days. Education and free inquiry shouldn't equate to having to appease students and faculty who will examine every world and deed through the lens of oppression. I used to call myself liberal. These days, not so much.

+100. Some of the most privileged people on earth, sometimes at the cost of excluding more qualified candidates (as the Asian PP explains, and I know many others), choosing to misuse the opportunity they have, and to interfere with others' learning and teaching.

The real problem here is Admissions. Who let the Barbarians in?

PP here. Given the 6.3% admission rate(!!!!!), I'd love to know too. Seriously, admissions rejected 19 out of every 20 applicants last year--and this is the *best* they could do?

+1. The other problem is academics and "student life." If those same students were exposed to a much more challenging, hard-work culture from day 1, chances are they would wise up quickly.

But I guess academic standards at Yale, especially in some departments, have become a joke by now.

Not surprising, then, that students need to find more stimulating things to do.

Read the "Coddling of the American Mind" article and check out the issue they had at Columbia. Kids are enrolling in humanities classes then demanding to opt out of reading Greek poetry because the violence and sexual imagery triggers them. Ivies like Harvard and Yale are notorious for grade inflation and these days the hardest part is getting accepted. After that it's smooth sailing and profs and student life will cater to your every whim if you throw the victim card and scream the loudest.

These two Atlantic articles should be essential reading for any parent with kids in college or headed to college.

Thank you, I will read them.

What's the best university up in Canada

I don't think going to Canada is an option. This kind of PC BS is also running amok in Canadian schools.

[Anonymous]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/canadian-university-professors-make-sure-white-males-last-speak-class/

[Anonymous]

Just read that Atlantic article. Unbelievable. Some students at Harvard law actually petitioned to exclude rape cases because they were triggering? And took offense at the use of words like "violate"? As in - "violation of the law". Christ on a stick. I simply have no words. These kids need to be sent to therapy, not school. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper too.