Has Yale Become a PC Joke?

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Anonymous wrote:So you think college students should show moral outrage whenever another college student tells someone s/he disagrees with to shut the fuck up? Or is it just when they tell authority figures to STFU?

The fact that you even have to tell someone to exercise respect when choosing a costume says volumes about a broken moral compass.

Why anyone would purposely wear something fully knowing that it's offensive and hurtful has deeper issues regardless of your right for free expression.

Yawn.

No response eh

Suppose some student decided to dress up as corrupt dictator Robert Mugabe? (It's college, so kids have pretty far-ranging ideas.) Would some students find that offensive?! It would be hard for them to argue "cultural misappropriation" unless they wanted to embrace Mugabe's "culture".

Mugabe supporters would certainly find it offensive. And they are black, so no kiddin'

Are there any Mugabe supporters left anywhere, other than those who lined their pockets along with him?

I had a neighbor who a few years ago dressed up as Marion Barry with a "posse of prostitutes" for a Halloween party. We all thought it was a scream. However, my guess is that the obscenity-screaming girl at Yale would have found that offensive.

And I'm sure your neighbor was in black face to complete the costume. How delightful you and your neighbor are.

Not the PP but I think it's sounds pretty funny. You know, no one screamed offense at costumes of Romney, Trump, rob ford, et al. How about a Christie costume involving a cell phone and giant smoothie? Offensive to fat loudmouths? barry made himself into a caricature. He was a public figure who smoked crack, liked hookers and liked to talk trash about Asian carryout owners. Yeah, he is fair game for Halloween costumes. Just as those others are.

You can whitewash it (pun intended) any way you want. None of the examples you list compares to blackface and it's history. None. Period.

Strawman argument. Noone at Yale was supporting blackface during Halloween. All the professor's wife did was ask that students police their own costumes and to do critical thinking themselves. You should read the e-mail, it was very reasonable.

What does this have to do with the discussion between the 2 posters about a neighbor's party?

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Anonymous wrote:So you think college students should show moral outrage whenever another college student tells someone s/he disagrees with to shut the fuck up? Or is it just when they tell authority figures to STFU?

The fact that you even have to tell someone to exercise respect when choosing a costume says volumes about a broken moral compass.

Why anyone would purposely wear something fully knowing that it's offensive and hurtful has deeper issues regardless of your right for free expression.

Yawn.

No response eh

Suppose some student decided to dress up as corrupt dictator Robert Mugabe? (It's college, so kids have pretty far-ranging ideas.) Would some students find that offensive?! It would be hard for them to argue "cultural misappropriation" unless they wanted to embrace Mugabe's "culture".

Mugabe supporters would certainly find it offensive. And they are black, so no kiddin'

Are there any Mugabe supporters left anywhere, other than those who lined their pockets along with him?

I had a neighbor who a few years ago dressed up as Marion Barry with a "posse of prostitutes" for a Halloween party. We all thought it was a scream. However, my guess is that the obscenity-screaming girl at Yale would have found that offensive.

And I'm sure your neighbor was in black face to complete the costume. How delightful you and your neighbor are.

Not the PP but I think it's sounds pretty funny. You know, no one screamed offense at costumes of Romney, Trump, rob ford, et al. How about a Christie costume involving a cell phone and giant smoothie? Offensive to fat loudmouths? barry made himself into a caricature. He was a public figure who smoked crack, liked hookers and liked to talk trash about Asian carryout owners. Yeah, he is fair game for Halloween costumes. Just as those others are.

You can whitewash it (pun intended) any way you want. None of the examples you list compares to blackface and it's history. None. Period.

Who said that person was wearing blackface? Or are you contending that no non-black person can pretend to be Marion Barry for Halloween ever because it is de facto racist? Do you understand that he was a public figure? Are only white public figures allowed to be satirized? Btw - just saying "period" does not give you the final word on an argument.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think college students should show moral outrage whenever another college student tells someone s/he disagrees with to shut the fuck up? Or is it just when they tell authority figures to STFU?

The fact that you even have to tell someone to exercise respect when choosing a costume says volumes about a broken moral compass.

Why anyone would purposely wear something fully knowing that it's offensive and hurtful has deeper issues regardless of your right for free expression.

Yawn.

No response eh

Suppose some student decided to dress up as corrupt dictator Robert Mugabe? (It's college, so kids have pretty far-ranging ideas.) Would some students find that offensive?! It would be hard for them to argue "cultural misappropriation" unless they wanted to embrace Mugabe's "culture".

Mugabe supporters would certainly find it offensive. And they are black, so no kiddin'

Are there any Mugabe supporters left anywhere, other than those who lined their pockets along with him?

I had a neighbor who a few years ago dressed up as Marion Barry with a "posse of prostitutes" for a Halloween party. We all thought it was a scream. However, my guess is that the obscenity-screaming girl at Yale would have found that offensive.

And I'm sure your neighbor was in black face to complete the costume. How delightful you and your neighbor are.

Not the PP but I think it's sounds pretty funny. You know, no one screamed offense at costumes of Romney, Trump, rob ford, et al. How about a Christie costume involving a cell phone and giant smoothie? Offensive to fat loudmouths? barry made himself into a caricature. He was a public figure who smoked crack, liked hookers and liked to talk trash about Asian carryout owners. Yeah, he is fair game for Halloween costumes. Just as those others are.

You can whitewash it (pun intended) any way you want. None of the examples you list compares to blackface and it's history. None. Period.

Who said that person was wearing blackface? Or are you contending that no non-black person can pretend to be Marion Barry for Halloween ever because it is de facto racist? Do you understand that he was a public figure? Are only white public figures allowed to be satirized? Btw - just saying "period" does not give you the final word on an argument.

Give it up. Not the PP but you can gyrate around this all you want. Blackface is despicable no matter how you spin it. And I notice you don't agree which says far more than your dance around the fact.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think college students should show moral outrage whenever another college student tells someone s/he disagrees with to shut the fuck up? Or is it just when they tell authority figures to STFU?

The fact that you even have to tell someone to exercise respect when choosing a costume says volumes about a broken moral compass.

Why anyone would purposely wear something fully knowing that it's offensive and hurtful has deeper issues regardless of your right for free expression.

Yawn.

No response eh

Suppose some student decided to dress up as corrupt dictator Robert Mugabe? (It's college, so kids have pretty far-ranging ideas.) Would some students find that offensive?! It would be hard for them to argue "cultural misappropriation" unless they wanted to embrace Mugabe's "culture".

Mugabe supporters would certainly find it offensive. And they are black, so no kiddin'

Are there any Mugabe supporters left anywhere, other than those who lined their pockets along with him?

I had a neighbor who a few years ago dressed up as Marion Barry with a "posse of prostitutes" for a Halloween party. We all thought it was a scream. However, my guess is that the obscenity-screaming girl at Yale would have found that offensive.

And I'm sure your neighbor was in black face to complete the costume. How delightful you and your neighbor are.

Not the PP but I think it's sounds pretty funny. You know, no one screamed offense at costumes of Romney, Trump, rob ford, et al. How about a Christie costume involving a cell phone and giant smoothie? Offensive to fat loudmouths? barry made himself into a caricature. He was a public figure who smoked crack, liked hookers and liked to talk trash about Asian carryout owners. Yeah, he is fair game for Halloween costumes. Just as those others are.

You can whitewash it (pun intended) any way you want. None of the examples you list compares to blackface and it's history. None. Period.

Who said that person was wearing blackface? Or are you contending that no non-black person can pretend to be Marion Barry for Halloween ever because it is de facto racist? Do you understand that he was a public figure? Are only white public figures allowed to be satirized? Btw - just saying "period" does not give you the final word on an argument.

Give it up. Not the PP but you can gyrate around this all you want. Blackface is despicable no matter how you spin it. And I notice you don't agree which says far more than your dance around the fact.

+1. I've noticed that also. Most likely those who are finding it abhorrent are black but can't be sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the PP who lived in the group house with the SJW: what kind of job did she have? Genuinely curious as to what kind of work these kids do post-college.

Non-profit, of course Followed by graduate work in the humanities. This chick was a walking SJW stereotype.tumblr meme with zero self-awareness. There are many like them in DC. She'll probably end up in academia where she can coach other little monsters and teach them how to play the victim card.

I can't imagine many people like this cutting it outside nonprofits or academia in hard nosed professions like banking, sales or law. Facing the rough and tumble of the real world, hearing profanities in the office and having to interact with people who aren't just like them would just be so damaging to their ego and delicate sensibilities!

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I've heard many times that what you major in is far more important than how prestigious your school is.

An engineering or computer science degree from Joe Blow State carries more "prestige" than an Applied Grievance Studies degree from Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:To the PP who lived in the group house with the SJW: what kind of job did she have? Genuinely curious as to what kind of work these kids do post-college.

Non-profit, of course Followed by graduate work in the humanities. This chick was a walking SJW stereotype.tumblr meme with zero self-awareness. There are many like them in DC. She'll probably end up in academia where she can coach other little monsters and teach them how to play the victim card.

I can't imagine many people like this cutting it outside nonprofits or academia in hard nosed professions like banking, sales or law. Facing the rough and tumble of the real world, hearing profanities in the office and having to interact with people who aren't just like them would just be so damaging to their ego and delicate sensibilities!

Those folks won't even cut it in any rigorous nonprofit or university -- they are not all the same

[Anonymous]

I skipped some of the pages and apologize if this has been posted, but here's the star of the show:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/09/meet-the-privileged-yale-student-who-shrieked-at-her-professor/

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard many times that what you major in is far more important than how prestigious your school is.

An engineering or computer science degree from Joe Blow State carries more "prestige" than an Applied Grievance Studies degree from Harvard.

Love it!

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Anonymous wrote:I skipped some of the pages and apologize if this has been posted, but here's the star of the show:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/09/meet-the-privileged-yale-student-who-shrieked-at-her-professor/

Wow. She seems like a self-loathing (or at least bi-polar) wacko-bird.

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Anonymous wrote:This dog just graduated from Yale's liberal arts program and is now ready for the real world.

Wait! It looks like this dog is dressed in white face.

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Anonymous wrote:I see Yale as a crappy place now for young white men who ought to be able to navigate their way to adulthood without a large group of adults and minority students constantly berating them about their white privileges and cautioning them at every opportunity as to how they should comport themselves in order not to offend others. I'd want my kid not to feel like he'd spent four years at a Mao-ist re-education center or come out fluent in "upspeak" because he'd been taught to second and third-guess the propriety of his comments before a sentence ever left his mouth - all while the "oppressed" students were exempt from any such restrictions.

It's a shame, because there are surely a lot of bright people there, but it's clearly lost its bearings. I feel very sorry for Erika Christakis, who sounds like one of the sole voices of sanity left there.

+1. She, and her husband, are amazing.

Yup. I'm apalled that the president apologized to those assholes who screamed at and bullied these two but not one word of public support for the only voices of reason. I hope that Yale alums are making their voices heard on this. These two are being scapegoated and the university admin is falling over themselves to let that happen.

Where is William F. Buckley now that we need him?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

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http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/10/more-than-1000-gather-in-solidarity/

1,000 kids skipped class to march cause they're offended about an email re: an email. Aw how precious. The kiddos even created an infographic detailing the route of the march through New Haven. As if this is tantamount to detailing a troop surge in a warzone. Or a protest worth lgiving two f*cks about outside the Ivory Tower bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, if this incident leads to any decline in applications, I think it would be a decline in applications from URM students. Yale looks like a less than hospitable environment.

Yawn.

You know for whom Yale is a "less than hospitable place"? Asian kids. They've got quotas against them the same way Jewish students used to have back in the day. The average Asian kid at the Ivies has to be insanely more accomplished than any other group, including white kids, in order to win a place. As an Asian American parent (who is not a tiger mom and doesn't push her kids), I'm already planning on state school for my kid. Both for cost and because unless my kid turns out to be a genius, I know that neither I nor my husband will have the appetite to push them to the crazy lengths that would be needed to get them accepted at an Ivy. If we weren't Asian, then our kid would still have to work hard but not inhumanely hard. So yeah, if the environment at Yale feels so shitty to you, please feel free to leave and make room for others.