Transplants vs DC Natives

[Anonymous]

Can we talk about the obsession that transplants have with new builds and granite countertops? I just don't get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are a native you pronounce the Glover in Glover Park to rhyme with lover, not over.

Actually I'm a transplant and I used to say Glover/lover for years until I read a John Kelly column in the WaPo stating that it's been pronounced Glover/over since the 40s. Apparently a surviving member of the Glover family says that her family pronounces it Glover/lover (and is therefore annoyed with the neighborhood practice) but what I read in the WaPo is that the neighborhood is really Glover/over and has been that way for a long time.

Seriously, pp, it's embarrassing for me to have been wrong for lo these many years but that's what they wrote in the WaPo based on their investigations.

Personally I say Glover/over, but my BIL whose family goes back four generations in DC (and a street in that area is named for one of his forebears) always calls it Glover/lover.

Everybody who lives in Glover Park pronounces Gluh-ver.

Hey I'm the pp who addressed this and I'd be very happy to know that it's been called Gluh-ver for years. If John Kelly's wrong, I'm glad to hear it. Someone might want to call Metro because their bus announcements used to say Glover/over last time I took a bus over there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

And this is EXACTLY why I plan to get the hell out of here. My husband has had the upper hand on this for 30 years. Once my youngest is out, so am I, and where to depends on where the kids are. Even if it's still in this area, I will move further out to those heinous exurbs - and even beyond - to get as far away from DC area hell.

The only people native welcome are illegals, and only if they don't settle in precious enclaves so as not to 'pollute' them. It's far better to sit in ivory towers and pat themselves on the back for being so 'broad minded'.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

And this is EXACTLY why I plan to get the hell out of here. My husband has had the upper hand on this for 30 years. Once my youngest is out, so am I, and where to depends on where the kids are. Even if it's still in this area, I will move further out to those heinous exurbs - and even beyond - to get as far away from DC area hell.

The only people native welcome are illegals, and only if they don't settle in precious enclaves so as not to 'pollute' them. It's far better to sit in ivory towers and pat themselves on the back for being so 'broad minded'.

[Anonymous]

For those who are interested, here is part of the 10/3/2005 column about the pronunciation of Glover Park:

But back to the question at hand: How do you pronounce the name of the neighborhood that's west of Wisconsin Avenue and north of W Street NW? GLOH-ver or GLUH-ver?

Carlton Fletcher has lived in Glover Park for 30 years and has contributed articles on the neighborhood's history for the Glover Park Gazette. "From time to time, people ask me about that, and I can't really say that there's a correct pronunciation," he said. "If you find people who have either grown up in that neighborhood or have spent considerable time around people from that neighborhood, it's quite possible that they'll say 'Glover Park' as in 'rover.' "

GLOH-ver Park. "That's what we used to say," said Kathleen McCormick , who lived in the neighborhood from her birth in 1942 until the sixth grade, when her family moved to Arlington.

Ditto for Bob Kohlmeyer , who runs the neighborhood listserv. In an e-mail, he explained that when he's asked how it's pronounced, he says it sounds like " Grover , the Muppet, not Danny Glover , the real star of 'Lethal Weapon.' "

And Metro's Steven Taubenkibel confirms that's how it's pronounced on the automatic announcements on buses that serve the neighborhood.

Carlton said he leans toward GLUH-ver Park because surnames often have historical connections to professions -- think Cooper, Shepherd, etc. He thinks the name might have originally come from a family that made gloves. (And not, it hardly bears mentioning, "glohves.")

Apropos of nothing except the strange conversation we were having, Carlton said that his wife is a bird-watcher. When they were at the beach once, she challenged him to use her birding book to identify a species cavorting in the surf.

"I said, 'It's a plover,' " Carlton remembered, pronouncing the bird to rhyme with "rover."

Hardcore birders know that it's pronounced PLUH-ver.

But what of Glover Park? Said Carlton: "Someone in the neighborhood said, 'Couldn't we get to the bottom of this by finding out how the Glovers pronounced it? Maybe we should ask the family.' "

"I said, 'But suppose they turn out to rhyme it with "mover"? Then we'd be in a real mess.' "

Who exactly was the Glover behind Glover Park, anyway? He was Charles Carroll Glover , born in 1846. He rose from a teller at Riggs Bank to the bank's president. He also served as president of the Corcoran Gallery of Art and was one of the chief movers behind the construction of Washington National Cathedral. He was a major civic booster and donated much of the land that became Rock Creek Park.

Charles C. Glover died in 1936, but I called Nancy Symington , nee Glover, his 84-year-old granddaughter, and asked her how she pronounces her maiden name.

Drumroll, please. . . .

"GLUH-ver. Please. Everybody calls it GLOH-ver, and it's absolutely wrong. It's GLUH-ver Park."

And then she said, "Call the bus people and tell them to shape up. I mean, really. That's terrible."

I asked Nancy whether she went out of her way to correct people who mangle the family name. Not really, she said.

"I have enough trouble with my married name."

For the record, it's SY-ming-ton, not SIH-ming-ton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The transplants (those from other countries - since DC is one of the most diverse in the nation) and those from other towns or cities are typically ruder and can't seem to drive. The DC native usually MISSES how the old DC used to be and look before it became so populated and sigh when they see how greedy transplants have taken over all the jobs.

Yep...

And then transplants have the gall to complain about DC drivers being aggressive! Ha- if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I will take an aggro MD driver anyday over being stuck behind some imbecile with Kansas plates. Or someone with area plants who is clearly driving like a transplant AKA slow and stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the obsession that transplants have with new builds and granite countertops? I just don't get it.

Can we talk about the jealousy that natives have about new houses; and their judgments about the hot wives moving into town?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

And this is EXACTLY why I plan to get the hell out of here. My husband has had the upper hand on this for 30 years. Once my youngest is out, so am I, and where to depends on where the kids are. Even if it's still in this area, I will move further out to those heinous exurbs - and even beyond - to get as far away from DC area hell.

The only people native welcome are illegals, and only if they don't settle in precious enclaves so as not to 'pollute' them. It's far better to sit in ivory towers and pat themselves on the back for being so 'broad minded'.

Amen. Because otherwise, the natives would not be able to call this area "diverse". :vomit:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The transplants (those from other countries - since DC is one of the most diverse in the nation) and those from other towns or cities are typically ruder and can't seem to drive. The DC native usually MISSES how the old DC used to be and look before it became so populated and sigh when they see how greedy transplants have taken over all the jobs.

Yep...

And then transplants have the gall to complain about DC drivers being aggressive! Ha- if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I will take an aggro MD driver anyday over being stuck behind some imbecile with Kansas plates. Or someone with area plants who is clearly driving like a transplant AKA slow and stupid.

HUH? I don't find the natives aggressive about anything. They are simply bad drivers. But go ahead and do what you do - spin away. Boring and predictably so......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

Eh, [b]we can laugh at you behind your back and exclude you from plenty of clubs and social events because we think you sound (and are) provincial. Just like I'm laughing at the burst of rage you seem to be experiencing at the fact that natives look down at you.

Seriously- get a fucking grip, dude.

[/b]

Your area high school is calling - they say they want you to give them 1982 back.

Loser.

You'll never get into my clubs *or* parties, so I'm not worried about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The transplants (those from other countries - since DC is one of the most diverse in the nation) and those from other towns or cities are typically ruder and can't seem to drive. The DC native usually MISSES how the old DC used to be and look before it became so populated and sigh when they see how greedy transplants have taken over all the jobs.

ie: wallowing in the past.

Because natives and transplants are competing for the same jobs?! Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

Eh, [b]we can laugh at you behind your back and exclude you from plenty of clubs and social events because we think you sound (and are) provincial. Just like I'm laughing at the burst of rage you seem to be experiencing at the fact that natives look down at you.

Seriously- get a fucking grip, dude.

[/b]

Your area high school is calling - they say they want you to give them 1982 back.

Loser.

You'll never get into my clubs *or* parties, so I'm not worried about you.

Oh, the transplants have clubs now?

Do go on... this should be entertaining...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

Eh, [b]we can laugh at you behind your back and exclude you from plenty of clubs and social events because we think you sound (and are) provincial. Just like I'm laughing at the burst of rage you seem to be experiencing at the fact that natives look down at you.

Seriously- get a fucking grip, dude.

[/b]

Your area high school is calling - they say they want you to give them 1982 back.

Loser.

You'll never get into my clubs *or* parties, so I'm not worried about you.

Oh, the transplants have clubs now?

Do go on... this should be entertaining...

You wish you knew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

Eh, [b]we can laugh at you behind your back and exclude you from plenty of clubs and social events because we think you sound (and are) provincial. Just like I'm laughing at the burst of rage you seem to be experiencing at the fact that natives look down at you.

Seriously- get a fucking grip, dude.

[/b]

Your area high school is calling - they say they want you to give them 1982 back.

Loser.

You'll never get into my clubs *or* parties, so I'm not worried about you.

Oh, the transplants have clubs now?

Do go on... this should be entertaining...

You wish you knew.

Ha! The most popular thread on DCUM is about country clubs.

Sorry, bud. No one cares about transplant "clubs" (if they even exist at all). Most people care about native clubs.

It's just reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant stand all you transplants - your lingo is the dead give away. I don't know anyone actually from hear who over and over and over wants to talk about people from "the district" or "DC proper" versus "the burbs." nobody here uses these phrases that I've ever known.

We talk more like this:

I'm from the DC or I'm from the DC area. Really, me too - where did you go to high school? Oh, did you know ____? Where are you living now? Oh, blah blah blah.

We say "inside the beltway" or "outside the beltway." We never say "burbs."

We do sometimes say "exburbs" though, particularly for Loudoun County. Frederick is just "fredneck" or for some "Urbana." Howard is just Howard.

x2. They should write this in a pamphlet for transplants to read so they all don't sound so goddam provincial and annoying.

And I will take your pamphlet and throw it in your goddamn smug faces, and DARE you to do something about it.

Who in the HELL do you people think you are? You own nothing--absolutely NOTHING--but your shitty, crumbling, overpriced houses. Stay in your own lane and keep living in the past about how great this place used to be, but you WILL deal with the fact that transplants have come, we are here, some of us will stay, some of us won't, and there isn't a DAMN thing you can do about it.

I will call DC and it's surrounding areas whatever I want, and you won't do anything about it. Ever. Except get on here and complain about it, because that is the extent of your power and influence as a "native".

Eh, [b]we can laugh at you behind your back and exclude you from plenty of clubs and social events because we think you sound (and are) provincial. Just like I'm laughing at the burst of rage you seem to be experiencing at the fact that natives look down at you.

Seriously- get a fucking grip, dude.

[/b]

Your area high school is calling - they say they want you to give them 1982 back.

Loser.

You'll never get into my clubs *or* parties, so I'm not worried about you.

Oh, the transplants have clubs now?

Do go on... this should be entertaining...

You wish you knew.

Ha! The most popular thread on DCUM is about country clubs.

Sorry, bud. No one cares about transplant "clubs" (if they even exist at all). Most people care about native clubs.

It's just reality.

The reality is: you wish you knew.