Religion that will help little girl feell good about herself, make peace with existential crisis

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Anonymous wrote:I think some atheists here criticize religion, but when it comes down to it they have their doubts and therefore hope that in the end they will have a chance to see for themselves that God is real and choose differently.

Doubt is a natural part of faith. People of faith are very open about that. Sometimes it's hard to believe some of the miracles of Christianity, but God rewards those who do. Atheists, who by definition have rejected (or never accepted) religion, don't have to work at taking things on faith.

How self centered.

I have faith in the ultimate good of man. I have faith every morning that I live in a society where I won't get murdered the moment I set foot out my door. I don't know this for sure. People do get murdered on a daily basis, yet I have faith that on the whole, people are good to each other.

It's hard to believe the miracles of Christianity because there is no evidence for it. There is no evidence for God, and no evidence that there will be a reward to believe. Religion is a collection of baseless assertions hiding behind "faith".

Well, then, you're a fool.

People at their base are completely self-serving. Every positive emotion/ action -- including things like empathy -- has to be taught. Have you ever raised a child? If so, you'd know that. We are not born wanting to love other people.

Children have to be taught a lot of things and children also have an innate sense of morality -- lots of living things do, including our primate cousins, who are not taught.

religion is not needed for any of this.

Sorry, but this is simply not true. There is no "innate" sense of morality. There may be individual definitions of morality but that is hardly the same thing.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think some atheists here criticize religion, but when it comes down to it they have their doubts and therefore hope that in the end they will have a chance to see for themselves that God is real and choose differently.

Doubt is a natural part of faith. People of faith are very open about that. Sometimes it's hard to believe some of the miracles of Christianity, but God rewards those who do. Atheists, who by definition have rejected (or never accepted) religion, don't have to work at taking things on faith.

How self centered.

I have faith in the ultimate good of man. I have faith every morning that I live in a society where I won't get murdered the moment I set foot out my door. I don't know this for sure. People do get murdered on a daily basis, yet I have faith that on the whole, people are good to each other.

It's hard to believe the miracles of Christianity because there is no evidence for it. There is no evidence for God, and no evidence that there will be a reward to believe. Religion is a collection of baseless assertions hiding behind "faith".

Well, then, you're a fool.

People at their base are completely self-serving. Every positive emotion/ action -- including things like empathy -- has to be taught. Have you ever raised a child? If so, you'd know that. We are not born wanting to love other people.

Children have to be taught a lot of things and children also have an innate sense of morality -- lots of living things do, including our primate cousins, who are not taught.

religion is not needed for any of this.

Sorry, but this is simply not true. There is no "innate" sense of morality. There may be individual definitions of morality but that is hardly the same thing.

Yes, there is an innate sense of morality that primate have http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/science/20moral.html?pagewanted=all

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

What if the Bible is true, and that supreme being -- God -- did "make up" ONE true religion. And what if, as the Bible says, there is a devil who counterfeited it and tried to lead everyone astray. Of all the religions in the world, only ONE bases salvation on faith in a sacrifice of God Himself as sufficient. (That would be Christianity.) Every other religious system in existence bases salvation on a set of works. Hmm... When you worship Christ, you're saying to God, "I cannot be good enough to be in your presence, but thank you that Christ is, and thank you for belief in that to be what you consider as righteousness." It's a great offer from a loving God. Maybe consider that no other religion says this. It's work, work, work, and still die in your sins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

What if the Bible is true, and that supreme being -- God -- did "make up" ONE true religion. And what if, as the Bible says, there is a devil who counterfeited it and tried to lead everyone astray. Of all the religions in the world, only ONE bases salvation on faith in a sacrifice of God Himself as sufficient. (That would be Christianity.) Every other religious system in existence bases salvation on a set of works. Hmm... When you worship Christ, you're saying to God, "I cannot be good enough to be in your presence, but thank you that Christ is, and thank you for belief in that to be what you consider as righteousness." It's a great offer from a loving God. Maybe consider that no other religion says this. It's work, work, work, and still die in your sins.

What if the Quran is true?!? Oh Shit.

[Anonymous]

Do you know how many billions of people are just as convinced that THEIR religion is true and you're the wrong one? How convenient is it that they've all been born to the right religion? You - Christian. An Iraqi - Islam. Every ounce of conviction, every ounce of faith.

[Anonymous]

Oy. And the work work work and still dying in sin. Scree that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

What if the Bible is true, and that supreme being -- God -- did "make up" ONE true religion. And what if, as the Bible says, there is a devil who counterfeited it and tried to lead everyone astray. Of all the religions in the world, only ONE bases salvation on faith in a sacrifice of God Himself as sufficient. (That would be Christianity.) Every other religious system in existence bases salvation on a set of works. Hmm... When you worship Christ, you're saying to God, "I cannot be good enough to be in your presence, but thank you that Christ is, and thank you for belief in that to be what you consider as righteousness." It's a great offer from a loving God. Maybe consider that no other religion says this. It's work, work, work, and still die in your sins.

Quite a complicated story -- sounds like something humans made up. An all-intelligent, all-powerful, all-loving god could do better than that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

What if the Bible is true, and that supreme being -- God -- did "make up" ONE true religion. And what if, as the Bible says, there is a devil who counterfeited it and tried to lead everyone astray. Of all the religions in the world, only ONE bases salvation on faith in a sacrifice of God Himself as sufficient. (That would be Christianity.) Every other religious system in existence bases salvation on a set of works. Hmm... When you worship Christ, you're saying to God, "I cannot be good enough to be in your presence, but thank you that Christ is, and thank you for belief in that to be what you consider as righteousness." It's a great offer from a loving God. Maybe consider that no other religion says this. It's work, work, work, and still die in your sins.

Quite a complicated story -- sounds like something humans made up. An all-intelligent, all-powerful, all-loving god could do better than that

On the contrary. The story of Christianity is so awesome, powerful and unbelievable, it could never be made up by humans. Take the example of God coming to us, on earth in the flesh. For centuries the Jewish people had waited for a savior who would deliver them, expecting of course that person to be a mighty ruler or king. That's human logic. In fact, He came in the form of a baby born to humble beginnings to a poor family. That is the constant surprise of our God Almighty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

What if the Bible is true, and that supreme being -- God -- did "make up" ONE true religion. And what if, as the Bible says, there is a devil who counterfeited it and tried to lead everyone astray. Of all the religions in the world, only ONE bases salvation on faith in a sacrifice of God Himself as sufficient. (That would be Christianity.) Every other religious system in existence bases salvation on a set of works. Hmm... When you worship Christ, you're saying to God, "I cannot be good enough to be in your presence, but thank you that Christ is, and thank you for belief in that to be what you consider as righteousness." It's a great offer from a loving God. Maybe consider that no other religion says this. It's work, work, work, and still die in your sins.

Quite a complicated story -- sounds like something humans made up. An all-intelligent, all-powerful, all-loving god could do better than that

On the contrary. The story of Christianity is so awesome, powerful and unbelievable, it could never be made up by humans. Take the example of God coming to us, on earth in the flesh. For centuries the Jewish people had waited for a savior who would deliver them, expecting of course that person to be a mighty ruler or king. That's human logic. In fact, He came in the form of a baby born to humble beginnings to a poor family. That is the constant surprise of our God Almighty.

Actually, there are myths from other cultures about babies born of virgins - on Dec 25th, no less, who were later crucified and then resurrected. That shakes the faith of some Christians, But others who know about those myths understand that the stories were placed by the devil to confuse people when the real savior came along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure you two are on opposite sides of this one? ^

You have to teach, but religion isn't needed for the teaching.

I believe that religion is needed for the teaching. Otherwise, whose laws/ rules/ guidance would we use, other than God's? Do you really want man making up rules for us to live by?

Who do you think made up religion? It was man. If there was a supreme being, he would have made up one good religion instead of so many different ones all over the world. What religions have in common is an injunction to be kind to each other -- that's the simple morality that came from humans, no matter where they were.

Plus, outside of religion, Man has made innumerable rules -- they are called laws and they apply to everyone in a particular society, irrespective of what, if any Gods they worship.

What if the Bible is true, and that supreme being -- God -- did "make up" ONE true religion. And what if, as the Bible says, there is a devil who counterfeited it and tried to lead everyone astray. Of all the religions in the world, only ONE bases salvation on faith in a sacrifice of God Himself as sufficient. (That would be Christianity.) Every other religious system in existence bases salvation on a set of works. Hmm... When you worship Christ, you're saying to God, "I cannot be good enough to be in your presence, but thank you that Christ is, and thank you for belief in that to be what you consider as righteousness." It's a great offer from a loving God. Maybe consider that no other religion says this. It's work, work, work, and still die in your sins.

Quite a complicated story -- sounds like something humans made up. An all-intelligent, all-powerful, all-loving god could do better than that

On the contrary. The story of Christianity is so awesome, powerful and unbelievable, it could never be made up by humans. Take the example of God coming to us, on earth in the flesh. For centuries the Jewish people had waited for a savior who would deliver them, expecting of course that person to be a mighty ruler or king. That's human logic. In fact, He came in the form of a baby born to humble beginnings to a poor family. That is the constant surprise of our God Almighty.

Actually, there are myths from other cultures about babies born of virgins - on Dec 25th, no less, who were later crucified and then resurrected. That shakes the faith of some Christians, But others who know about those myths understand that the stories were placed by the devil to confuse people when the real savior came along.

Oh of course. You again. The atheist with an answer to everything

[Anonymous]

It's true, the death and resurrection of Jesus is so similar to other myths because of its ties to the winter solstice, when the sun is at the lowest point (dies) and rises again visibly 3 days later.

That's right, Jesus's story has roots in pagan sun worshiping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's true, the death and resurrection of Jesus is so similar to other myths because of its ties to the winter solstice, when the sun is at the lowest point (dies) and rises again visibly 3 days later.

That's right, Jesus's story has roots in pagan sun worshiping.

*sound of religion collapsing under thw weight of your mighty arguments*

Yawn.