Why is DC fashion so boring?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you 22? I'm a former fashion designer, now living in DC, who finds "trends" like Normcore (I.e. Wearing Gap) and the sea clothing hilarious. Hilarious. This is why I left the industry (well, that and nasty catty people). This shit is UGLY. I love beautiful clothes and interesting patterns and styles but all this crap is is people trying to invent something and failing miserably. Its not fashion. It's marketing for the gullible to buy more crap. It's not beatiful, stylish clothing to make one look more interesting.

Thats your opinion. Many people find normcore to be a really interesting commentary on consumerism and more of a political statement then a purely fashion-related choice. I personally enjoy boundary pushing styles. While I can appreciate a J.Crew type look, or the other rather boring styles that qualify as "high fashion" in the DC area, I also like transgressive, progressive styles. Normcore being one of those, even though many people may things it's just ugly. I can see the intent behind it. Same guys for some of the more "out there" styles, such as sea goth.

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Good lord, do you really devote this much of your brain capacity to this nonsense? If you're incapable of seeing the interesting, the beautiful, and the diverse in this city if it's not wrapped up in some bs "fashion" trend you really need to grow up and expand your horizons.

"Wah, wah, my creativity is stifled and my spirit crushed because I don't see hipsters wearing 'interesting' trends" ...
That's a very limited view of creativity and self-expression.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree DC is fug, but I think it js hilarious to be chided for not folowing what are clearly joke trends like normcore. Our pant suoits are ugly, but sea punk is not the answer. The op blathering about normcore makes me think of a high school girl trying to be trendy. That's not style; that's fashion victimization.

I dont dress sea punk! Someone asked me to point out fashion trends that dont exist in DC and I did. And while I dont dress in one style in particular, I certainly take aspects from whichever styles appeal to me and mix them into my wardrobe. But unlike other major cities, where you are totally likely to walk past someone with a really out there sense of style, such as soft grunge, you would never, EVER see it in DC. And I feel that that really takes away from the vibe of a city- the complete and total dearth of creativity in terms of personal style.

We don't have creative jobs! We spend 60+ hours a week in conservative professions. WTH do you want?

Thats what I'm complaining about. You would think there would be SOME kind of creative class of young people in DC. But it seems like its all wonks. And how can you really call a city cosmopolitan when it's all wonks? You NEED a creative class to make a city truly vibrant and world class.

Okay then. Your post wasn't about fashion then now was it?

It's all interrelated.

One of the reasons I went into law was so I didn't have to worry about trivial crap like fashion. So sorry you live in the wrong town.

So sorry you're a boring nerd with no artistic sensibilities. Khakis and an old navy shirt seem perfect for you...

You see, I'm over 40 and a self-made millionaire. I don't care what you think of my lack of fashion sense. Get back to me when you've accomplished something in life other than dressing intentionally.

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Anonymous wrote:Good clothes help, but ugly people--i.e., most people in this area--will still be ugly.

Very true. DC has one of the ugliest populaces in the country, maybe even the world. When I lived out west people would comment to me about it. Anyone halfway decent looking stands out like a sore thumb.

So what????

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you 22? I'm a former fashion designer, now living in DC, who finds "trends" like Normcore (I.e. Wearing Gap) and the sea clothing hilarious. Hilarious. This is why I left the industry (well, that and nasty catty people). This shit is UGLY. I love beautiful clothes and interesting patterns and styles but all this crap is is people trying to invent something and failing miserably. Its not fashion. It's marketing for the gullible to buy more crap. It's not beatiful, stylish clothing to make one look more interesting.

Thats your opinion. Many people find normcore to be a really interesting commentary on consumerism and more of a political statement then a purely fashion-related choice. I personally enjoy boundary pushing styles. While I can appreciate a J.Crew type look, or the other rather boring styles that qualify as "high fashion" in the DC area, I also like transgressive, progressive styles. Normcore being one of those, even though many people may things it's just ugly. I can see the intent behind it. Same guys for some of the more "out there" styles, such as sea goth.

OP, I forgot, what creative industry do you work in to make a living?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree DC is fug, but I think it js hilarious to be chided for not folowing what are clearly joke trends like normcore. Our pant suoits are ugly, but sea punk is not the answer. The op blathering about normcore makes me think of a high school girl trying to be trendy. That's not style; that's fashion victimization.

I dont dress sea punk! Someone asked me to point out fashion trends that dont exist in DC and I did. And while I dont dress in one style in particular, I certainly take aspects from whichever styles appeal to me and mix them into my wardrobe. But unlike other major cities, where you are totally likely to walk past someone with a really out there sense of style, such as soft grunge, you would never, EVER see it in DC. And I feel that that really takes away from the vibe of a city- the complete and total dearth of creativity in terms of personal style.

We don't have creative jobs! We spend 60+ hours a week in conservative professions. WTH do you want?

Thats what I'm complaining about. You would think there would be SOME kind of creative class of young people in DC. But it seems like its all wonks. And how can you really call a city cosmopolitan when it's all wonks? You NEED a creative class to make a city truly vibrant and world class.

Okay then. Your post wasn't about fashion then now was it?

It's all interrelated.

One of the reasons I went into law was so I didn't have to worry about trivial crap like fashion. So sorry you live in the wrong town.

So sorry you're a boring nerd with no artistic sensibilities. Khakis and an old navy shirt seem perfect for you...

You see, I'm over 40 and a self-made millionaire. I don't care what you think of my lack of fashion sense. Get back to me when you've accomplished something in life other than dressing intentionally.

Lol. And I'm 26 and have a trust fund. What exactly is your point?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you 22? I'm a former fashion designer, now living in DC, who finds "trends" like Normcore (I.e. Wearing Gap) and the sea clothing hilarious. Hilarious. This is why I left the industry (well, that and nasty catty people). This shit is UGLY. I love beautiful clothes and interesting patterns and styles but all this crap is is people trying to invent something and failing miserably. Its not fashion. It's marketing for the gullible to buy more crap. It's not beatiful, stylish clothing to make one look more interesting.

Thats your opinion. Many people find normcore to be a really interesting commentary on consumerism and more of a political statement then a purely fashion-related choice. I personally enjoy boundary pushing styles. While I can appreciate a J.Crew type look, or the other rather boring styles that qualify as "high fashion" in the DC area, I also like transgressive, progressive styles. Normcore being one of those, even though many people may things it's just ugly. I can see the intent behind it. Same guys for some of the more "out there" styles, such as sea goth.

OP, I forgot, what creative industry do you work in to make a living?

You didnt forget, because I never specified where I work. And I'm not about to tell the crazy harpies on DCUM.

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OP - if you're so avant-garde, creative, and frustrated, why don't you create what you believe is missing here in DC? Effect change instead of putting others down. You aren't coming off as someone who others want to listen to or associTe with and you can't effect change like that.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - if you're so avant-garde, creative, and frustrated, why don't you create what you believe is missing here in DC? Effect change instead of putting others down. You aren't coming off as someone who others want to listen to or associTe with and you can't effect change like that.

Because I dont think it's possible for one person to effect change in such a totally boring town of rule-followers. When people are just THAT vailla, theres no way you can interest them in doing any boundary pushing. It's why every interesting person leaves DC. Its a shame, because I did grow up here and have some loyalty. But theres just no hope for DC, IMO.

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Really, every interesting person leaves because of some fashion vacuum? That's hilarious!

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Anonymous wrote:OP - if you're so avant-garde, creative, and frustrated, why don't you create what you believe is missing here in DC? Effect change instead of putting others down. You aren't coming off as someone who others want to listen to or associTe with and you can't effect change like that.

Because I dont think it's possible for one person to effect change in such a totally boring town of rule-followers. When people are just THAT vailla, theres no way you can interest them in doing any boundary pushing. It's why every interesting person leaves DC. Its a shame, because I did grow up here and have some loyalty. But theres just no hope for DC, IMO.

See, with this kind of stuff you lose me. I know tons of interesting people here. Very well educated, well traveled, tons of different experiences, foodies etc... I agree that DC is not a fashion mecca but if that's the only thing that makes someone interesting then you are pretty shallow.

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Anonymous wrote:Normcore looks like middle-aged housewives. That's not trendy fashion.

You sooooo misunderstand Normcore.

Instead of continuously saying "that's not normcore," "you don't get it," etc., why don't you offer some concrete examples?

You have two hands and an internet connection. If you want to know...

Don't be a tool. Everything I've googled on "normcore" touts it as a unisex, basic, unlabeled look. Posters on this thread are saying that DC fits that bill perfectly. Rather than explaining why those posters are wrong, you roll your eyes and insist that nobody understands. Why not post some images and explain why the DC frump look isn't normcore?

Fine, I'll explain. Because normcore is done PURPOSEFULLY. That is a crucial component of normcore. You can't just go to the grocery store in a pair of Lululemon yoga pants and a tshirt and call it normcore because you're feeling lazy. Normcore is a deliberate and mindful rejection of labels or attention-grabbing clothing as a commentary on capitalism and individuality in society. The intentionality, the purposeful stripping down of everything trendy as a means of "blending in to stand out". The intention matters. Dressing in old jeans and a ratty shirt because you just dont care does not qualify, sorry.

Wow -- you sound like a total loser, obsessed with such trivialities.

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Anonymous wrote:Normcore looks like middle-aged housewives. That's not trendy fashion.

You sooooo misunderstand Normcore.

Instead of continuously saying "that's not normcore," "you don't get it," etc., why don't you offer some concrete examples?

You have two hands and an internet connection. If you want to know...

Don't be a tool. Everything I've googled on "normcore" touts it as a unisex, basic, unlabeled look. Posters on this thread are saying that DC fits that bill perfectly. Rather than explaining why those posters are wrong, you roll your eyes and insist that nobody understands. Why not post some images and explain why the DC frump look isn't normcore?

Fine, I'll explain. Because normcore is done PURPOSEFULLY. That is a crucial component of normcore. You can't just go to the grocery store in a pair of Lululemon yoga pants and a tshirt and call it normcore because you're feeling lazy. Normcore is a deliberate and mindful rejection of labels or attention-grabbing clothing as a commentary on capitalism and individuality in society. The intentionality, the purposeful stripping down of everything trendy as a means of "blending in to stand out". The intention matters. Dressing in old jeans and a ratty shirt because you just dont care does not qualify, sorry.

Wow -- you sound like a total loser, obsessed with such trivialities.

And you sound like a loser who's completely out of touch with current fashions.

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Wait. So now you're a loser if you're not up with the current fashion trends!? That is a loser statement if I've ever heard one.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait. So now you're a loser if you're not up with the current fashion trends!? That is a loser statement if I've ever heard one.

Really? Were you homeschooled?