The Hannah graham suspect

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I admit my heart sank when I saw that the suspect was black. Just what the black community needs to perpetuate the stereotype. It's especially unfortunate because in that part of Virginia, racism is already so strong.

Really? My heart sank when a young woman disappeared in a college town. Priorities.

+1 first response was very odd

[Anonymous]

I get the impression that when it came to JM - people, for whatever reason, looked the other way a lot. With so many people making excuses for you maybe you don't really need to be all that clever?

He played card after card over a long period of time. First he played the "poor scholarship student / star athlete card." Got away with that. Then the 'I don't know how to behave myself in public" (b/c I am a poor black man) got away with that. Then the "I am a very large and angry guy who picks up total strangers and injures them" then the "gentle giant when I feel like it". Cold, calculating. Now he is playing it cool -- no body. I think he became complacent. There is still a good chance he will go free.
Along the way -- its been 12 years -- he figured out that colleges are transient places and girls go missing. And how to do it and get away with it. No body, no conviction.
BTW, other murderers have done the same. Ted Bundy got away with it for years, and 20 -30 girls. The BTK murderer also. BTK used to send evidence to the police.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/unsolved/btk/index_1.html
Really really scary. If it is not Matthews, it is someone else with a bag of tricks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this sympathy for this guy. He abducted a young girl who has never been seen again. Then he is caught at the border. But we should all feel sorry for him.

You don't know if he abducted her. He is on camera being seen with her and that made him a suspect. The police are mad because they did not get to interrogate him without an attorney present. Once he lawyered up they made him the only suspect. So basically because he invoked his fifth amendment rights, he became number only suspect. Sounds shoddy if someone else did the deed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:...It was revealed on Wednesday that Matthew also has a long list of previous charges against him - from assault and grand larceny to trespassing and being in possession of stolen property.

Online court records showed that Matthew was convicted of trespassing in 2010 but provide no details about the incident.

He also faces a slew of traffic violations, according to WSLS.

In June 2009, Matthew allegedly assaulted someone during an attempted theft of a cell phone but the charges were later dropped.


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Yes, cry for him -- the poor pitiful black man.

I am sorry, was he convicted or arrested. Heck, it doesn't take much for a black man to get arrested in these united states. shucks, you have police shooting black men just for reaching for their licenses after they instruct the black men to get their licenses. so unless you tell me that he has been convicted for violent crimes and speeding parking violations mean crap, you are off base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.

I would. You can get shot by the police for just reaching for your license, or walking down the damn street for jaywalking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I admit my heart sank when I saw that the suspect was black. Just what the black community needs to perpetuate the stereotype. It's especially unfortunate because in that part of Virginia, racism is already so strong.

Really? My heart sank when a young woman disappeared in a college town. Priorities.

+1 first response was very odd

Please people. I was the OP for this post here. Obviously I am saddened first for the victim. I didn't feel the need to make that obvious statement. But my secondary reaction was being disappointed that the perp was black. It is OK to have both of those reactions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.

True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?

You are so naive. He turned himself into the police in Charlottsville upon initially hearing that he was a person of interest. He asked for a lawyer and they told him he could leave. He raced out of the police lot and they accused him of reckless driving. You call that running. He is not fighting extradiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I admit my heart sank when I saw that the suspect was black. Just what the black community needs to perpetuate the stereotype. It's especially unfortunate because in that part of Virginia, racism is already so strong.

Really? My heart sank when a young woman disappeared in a college town. Priorities.

+1 first response was very odd

Please people. I was the OP for this post here. Obviously I am saddened first for the victim. I didn't feel the need to make that obvious statement. But my secondary reaction was being disappointed that the perp was black. It is OK to have both of those reactions.

Actually, it isn't. We shouldn't be hoping any peep is or isn't of any particular race. Race shouldn't be brought into the equation. Is is just as wrong to hope the perp is black as to hope he isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.

accusations are not admissible. the only reason you know about them is to pollute the jury pool and try him in the court of popular opinion, not a court of law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.

But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.

this has been going on in the other thread for a week. so it's acceptable for him to run, rather than being a standup guy and telling what he knows? his actions make him look guilty, not his skin color.

Bullshit. If he was my client, I would tell him to remain silent, for anything and everything can be used and twisted to fit the narrative of whoever is retelling your story. So keep your mouth zipped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.

I agree with everyone's right to their own opinion, as long as they are based on facts. The above is not that.

From the bottom of this article http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024621469_apxmissinguvastudent.html :

"Online court records show Matthew was convicted of trespassing in 2010 but provide no details about the incident. Details also were unavailable for two other charges of assault and attempted grand larceny relating to a 2009 incident that were not prosecuted. Matthew, who had a taxi permit from the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles from 2007 through 2010, also has several traffic infractions, records show."

Actually you don't get to dictate whether people chose to be "fact-based" on not, it's called freedom of speech.

Yes freedom of speech does give you PP the right to spread lies to stregthen your point of view. I hope your bed of lies help you sleep at night. Maybe someone should start spreading lies about you too .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.

But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.

Does the name OJ Simpson mean anything to you?

He had the money to fight the machine expert to expert. It didn't help the prosecution to have a racist cop who had been known to plant evidence against other suspects in other crimes. But in the end, the machine got that uppity, rich, Black man anyway. His sentence for the burglary was based on their inability to sentence him on the murders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.

But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.

this has been going on in the other thread for a week. so it's acceptable for him to run, rather than being a standup guy and telling what he knows? his actions make him look guilty, not his skin color.

Bullshit. If he was my client, I would tell him to remain silent, for anything and everything can be used and twisted to fit the narrative of whoever is retelling your story. So keep your mouth zipped.

Spot on!

If you are being questioned by the police and there is even a remote possibility that you are a suspect, keep your mouth shut and get an attorney. Those who advise otherwise are clueless about how things work within the legal system.

If you are black, the above advice applies in spades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why make up a story about how sad and unfair life is for this criminal? This time he got caught. No he has not been tried yet, but it seems like there is a lot of evidence. At a certain point it is hard to argue that he is the innocent victim.

I am not making up a story about this guy, but I hate the PPs rush to judgment. Simply because someone is arrested by the police does not make them guilty. If this man is innocent of these charges, his life as he knew it is ruined. Almost seventy-percent of the posters on DCUM have already convicted this man and he has not been arraigned. How can he get a fair trial in Charlottesville? And you say there is a lot of evidence, would you please link this information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.

True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?

Because the police think you are a (serial) murderer. You guys have already decided he's guilty. He probably thinks he has no chance if he didn't do it.

OMG seriously? He looks guilty bc he didn't come forward initially and he ran. If he hadn't done those things, he'd have much more of a chance in the court of public opinion. Why is that so hard to understand?

He did come forward initially. They released him. Maybe he went to Texas to get away from being followed every second and minute of his day. I would have left as well. Maybe he needed a vacation, but in your rush to judgment you only see ran. If the police really thought he ran, I am sure they could have found an evasion charge to tact on.