DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anybody know were they base the school classification? Do they base it on the overal index score or do they look at the percentage in each sub-category? I have seen some schools that are considered "Rising" but their overall index score and % in each sub category is less than some that are considered "Focus". Tubman's scores have declined but is classfied as "Rising". Seaton on the other hand which had positive change in the scores is classified as "Focus"?

Focus means that one of their sub-groups has performed poorly. If I remember correctly last year for Seaton it was because their Hispanic population performed more than 20 percentage points below the city wide average in reading for Hispanics (I think, though it may have been another subgroup). Because of that they are (or were last year) considered "focus" even though their overall scores are better than other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The classifications are definitely updated. Bancroft fell 2 categories. I think it takes 3 years to get out of the Focus category, no matter how much the scores rise.

This makes sense but I still do not understand why some schools are Rising when the scores are bad

Not true. The categories are updated each year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Totally agree. I hate to see Latin scores drop because I believe it is a good school overall, but BASIS took the top students (and potential tops) from Latins' pool. BASIS will be the top MS/HS in the area in about 2 years.

[Anonymous]

This has a good explanation of the categories:

http://www.learndc.org/schoolprofiles/about/glossary/esea-accountability

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The classifications are definitely updated. Bancroft fell 2 categories. I think it takes 3 years to get out of the Focus category, no matter how much the scores rise.

This makes sense but I still do not understand why some schools are Rising when the scores are bad

Not true. The categories are updated each year.

Nope - once you are focus, you are there for at least two years:

"A Focus school is a school needing targeted support to address large achievement gaps between specific groups of students. Focus schools are required to develop a school intervention plan, set aside a portion of their Federal funding and receive special quality monitoring and professional development. Schools remain in this category until they show two consecutive years of increased performance."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

That's something you're pointing out from others and not yourself, right? Because that is highly offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

That's something you're pointing out from others and not yourself, right? Because that is highly offensive.

I don't have any kids. I'm just going off of what I've observed on DCUM. Doesn't seem to be any parents sending their kids to Mckinley or Banneker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading scores from black children went from 38.8 proficient in 2008 to 38.6 proficient in 2014.

Even with erase-to-the top that's shameful.

Kaya should be fired and Rhee indicted.

The scores for black students are an abomination.

EXCEPT the Black students at Banneker, McKinley, DC Prep, etc...(and these schools are high FARMS to boot!). Not all Black students fit the underperforming narrative. It seems as if all concerned should figure out what these schools are doing right. The false concern/hand-wringing is completely useless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores


Totally agree. I hate to see Latin scores drop because I believe it is a good school overall, but BASIS took the top students (and potential tops) from Latins' pool. BASIS will be the top MS/HS in the area in about 2 years.

Didn't Basis outscore Latin last (their first) year also? And it is a school based on accelerated learning, wouldn't it be BAD if their scores WEREN'T higher than most schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

Wilson is 46% AA and 17% Latino. SWW is 43% AA and 10% Latino. White families don't seem to have any problems sending their children to these majority minority schools. I think something else is at play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

Shepherd is damn far away in the wrong direction for most families. But McKinley and Banneker have a huge disconnect with the folks that frequent this board. It's going to take a massive outreach on both sides to breakthrough that.

[Anonymous]

Incredible gain for Ross and L-T. Congrats to those families and teachers!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

Shepherd is damn far away in the wrong direction for most families. But McKinley and Banneker have a huge disconnect with the folks that frequent this board. It's going to take a massive outreach on both sides to breakthrough that.

I call BS about Shepherd's location. Many EOTP families cross town to go OOB to Hearst worse performing charters charters. The few that do apply to Shepherd do to get into Deal. Also PP, the 47% AA is not the same as 98% at Banneker. Huge difference. You can keep telling yourself you're not racist by sending your kids to Wilson (with worse scores) that's half black if it makes you feel better. Let's have a serious discussion like 11:36 tried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?

Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.

Wilson is 46% AA and 17% Latino. SWW is 43% AA and 10% Latino. White families don't seem to have any problems sending their children to these majority minority schools. I think something else is at play.

It's not so much whether or not a school is majority-minority; it's whether or not it has a critical mass of white kids.

Using last year's numbers b/c the DCPS profiles haven't been updated yet and I'm lazy:

Banneker = 100% math proficiency and 96% reading proficiency; it's 87% black, 10% Latino, 1% Asian, and 0% white

McKinley = 91% math proficiency and 82% reading proficiency; it's 92% black, 5% Latino, 0% Asian, and 0% white

Wilson = 60% math proficiency and 61% reading proficiency; it's 46% black, 25% white, 17% Latino, and 8% Asian

SWW = 97% math proficiency and 99-100% reading proficiency; it's 43%black, 36% white, 10% Latino, and 5% Asian

I think when push comes to shove, high scores aren't enough to make many white parents comfortable with their child being an "only."