Married NY Times sports reporter viral after being busted allegedly having an affair with married NFL coach

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Another woman? Please. It’s pretty rare that women are taken down over things like this. How many can you actually name?

The Coldplay lady seemed to take a lot more heat than the man.

Amanda Batula is getting more heat than West Wilson.

Those are both current.

The Coldplay woman has been making an idiot of herself all over the media. The guy at least had the good sense to remain silent. That is a self-created problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Another woman? Please. It’s pretty rare that women are taken down over things like this. How many can you actually name?

The Coldplay lady seemed to take a lot more heat than the man.

Amanda Batula is getting more heat than West Wilson.

Those are both current.

The Coldplay woman has been making an idiot of herself all over the media. The guy at least had the good sense to remain silent. That is a self-created problem.

Exactly. They are both gross and stupid but at least he had the common sense to disappear and not go on a publicity tour.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

+1. It's gross paternalism to think that she can't be held accountable for her actions.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

No woman is watching for the wholesomeness of the players or coaches. Get real. Have you ever watched an NFL game?

Women being into football is phony woke nonsense. I don’t know a single woman in real life who is genuinely into football. Going to games, doing the attention-seeking dress up tailgating entertainment spread for social media photos? Sure. Actually caring about football? Not a chance. Women don’t play youth football, there’s no foundational reason for them to understand the game or care.

You’re just being foolish. I am a woman, and I attend and watch NFL games. So do many of my friends. Try to keep up. You’re being sexist.

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Anonymous wrote:This is super viral. Would you be okay with your husband at a hotel behaving like this? They claim nothing happened.

The two in question deny any affair and her NY Times bosses back up her denial. They claim they were at the ritzy $2,500 night couple's resort in Arizona with a group of friends. Sleuths have gone back and clipped the reporter’s TV hits and she’s been publicly ridiculing her husband going back years. Years ago she was accused of sleeping with a married Washington Commanders executive for scoops, by his wife.

The hug in that picture looks awkward, not intimate. I have plenty of male friends and I could envision pictures of me with them like this and it would mean nothing except that our spouses were probably at the bar or back in the rooms or off playing golf.

I don’t hug my male friends and they don’t hug each other. All of my friends are male.

I don't know if you're male or female, but I'm the PP and I'm a female. I absolutely hug my male friends. My husband also hugs his male friends. And his female friends.

Do you also hang out alone with them in pools and hot tubs?

On private suite rooftops? No, I don't. On vacation if there are a bunch of us there? Yes.

I brought this up with a couple we just vacationed with over spring break (our daughters are friends and it was a family trip). I asked the husband if he would be in the hot tub (which were located throughout the resort and always near a pool/bar, so not private) with just me if his wife and my husband were up in the rooms or somewhere else. He said absolutely not because of the optics. His wife and my husband said they wouldn't care. I also wouldn't care, but to each their own.

I grew up in CA and find that I am far more laid back than some of my friends. I'm also 10 years younger than the couple we were with (they had their children much later in life). Anyway, I thought it was illuminating because I wouldn't really care what someone walking by thought (i.e. I know nothing is going on, so why would care if someone else thought that?) as long as my husband wasn't bothered. I think you'd have to be pretty stupid to do something in a public hot tub when your spouses are somewhere close by so to me it would have to be innocent but I respect him a lot and his answer was no so I'm pondering it now.

Anyway, we have a large friend group and we do vacation together and one time a husband and I were at the pool together swimming and then sat on the edge and chatted. I didn't think anything of it because we've been friends for ages and we were in a public place.

Very bizarre that you think it is normal to ask a husband of a friend to hang out with you in a hot tub alone.

Sigh. I didn't ask him to join me, I asked him about his thoughts since we had just been at a resort with hot tubs with our families. Also, I wouldn't invite my friend's husband to come hang out with me in the hot tub, I'm saying I could see a situation where all the adults would be in and our spouses would leave to go back to the rooms to shower and it would be just the two of us. It wouldn't bother me, my husband, or my friend, but her husband said he would have gotten out at the same time because he doesn't like the optics of the two of us in the hot tub without our spouses.

I do know of one man (currently divorced but dating) who I would definitely not be alone in a hot tub with (1) because I don't particularly trust him, (2) because he's not married so it might be easier for people to think there's something going on, and (3) he used to be a swinger, which is part of (1). I know my husband also would not want me alone with that guy and he's said as much. All our other male friends? He wouldn't care. Anyway, people are allowed to disagree about this. I tend to not care much about optics but I'm not a public person, my job isn't related to any image that I might have, and I trust myself and my husband and we have a marriage where we could discuss something like this.

This isn’t about you.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

+1. It's gross paternalism to think that she can't be held accountable for her actions.

Another +1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

+1. It's gross paternalism to think that she can't be held accountable for her actions.

GMAFB.

It's sexist to always focus on the woman, not the man, in these situations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

Strawman. Literally no one said she's a "helpless victim".

The rabid attacks on women (by other women) is repulsive.

Why do you feel the need to go after these strangers and judge/jury them?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

+1. It's gross paternalism to think that she can't be held accountable for her actions.

GMAFB.

It's sexist to always focus on the woman, not the man, in these situations.

She chose to put herself in this situation despite being aware of the consequences. No need to infantilize her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

+1. It's gross paternalism to think that she can't be held accountable for her actions.

GMAFB.

It's sexist to always focus on the woman, not the man, in these situations.

STFU. What is "this situation" exactly? And we almost always focus on the man while the women are often nameless anonymous accusers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

Strawman. Literally no one said she's a "helpless victim".

The rabid attacks on women (by other women) is repulsive.

Why do you feel the need to go after these strangers and judge/jury them?

She massively effed up. She owned it, why can't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

Strawman. Literally no one said she's a "helpless victim".

The rabid attacks on women (by other women) is repulsive.

Why do you feel the need to go after these strangers and judge/jury them?

She massively effed up. She owned it, why can't you?

She definitely didn't own it. She's playing victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

Strawman. Literally no one said she's a "helpless victim".

The rabid attacks on women (by other women) is repulsive.

Why do you feel the need to go after these strangers and judge/jury them?

She massively effed up. She owned it, why can't you?

Read her resignation letter again. She doesn't take any responsibility (aka own it) at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the gossip vultures are after another woman.

Gross.

Stop trying to make the woman the helpless victim. She put herself in the situation where her professionalism and reporting is now questionable. She's a journalist covering him not the other way around.

Strawman. Literally no one said she's a "helpless victim".

The rabid attacks on women (by other women) is repulsive.

Why do you feel the need to go after these strangers and judge/jury them?

Hi Dianna