Am i the only one who feels the renovation obssession is kind of insane? Is this just Bowser keeping real estate people happy? It's farcical how much money is spent on renovating these schools that are failing to teach kids. While the two schools with the best college outcomes in the city (Walls and BASIS) have the two worst building (proving that academic success is not related to facility quality). |
I think the answer is more political. The DC government is run by lefties, and when it comes to schools, they will never support raising academic standards or creating G&T programs or flunking kids who don't learn. They think that's all racist. But what they can agree on is spending more money on schools, and that's how they show they are supporting schools. |
Latin 2nd Street looks like it hasn't been touched in 30 years. The best schools are the worst schools. |
Do you mean worst HS buildings in the city? Because Walls is still nicer than schools that haven’t been renovated and are falling apart. |
+1. It’s sad really because not only does DCPS not have high standards but actually continues to lower standards. I mean just look at the new ELA and science curriculum - both considered terrible by actual DCPS teachers and parents. More kids coming out knowing much less. The achievement gap will just be much wider between DCPS and the popular charters discussed on here especially for middle school and up. |
You have not been to SE schools, some of them are very bad. And of course some in other areas. Walls is nothing. |
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Walls is nicer looking and in better repair than some schools. It is not crumbling. But rest assured it is that it is still bad.
It has too few classrooms and no other space -- no auditorium, no gym, NO athletic facilities of any kind. The HVAC system doesn't work. The principal has sent more emails this year about HVAC repairs than all other topics combined. Wifi doesn't work at all in parts of the building, including for some computer courses. For the bigger question, yes, the fancy renovations are a grift and a Bowser gift to developers. Then they quickly! fall into disrepair due to DGS, undermining the efforts put into renovations. First up for renovation should be DGS. |
I guess my point isn't that Walls has the worst building. It's that since Walls and BASIS have such good outcomes, it's proof that *building quality and academic outcomes are not related.* And DCPS should fix the crumbling buildings. Some of them are inhumane (we've been at a school with mice, mold and HVAC issues that DGS never fixed). But DCPS should not try to convince anyone that their luxury renovations are actually leading to better academics and student outcomes. |
Oh you mean like Ballou High School? Which is so off-the-charts fancy that it's featured on an engineering web site? And yet somehow is one of the very worst schools in the city? https://skaengineers.com/projects/ballou-senior-high-school/ |
If you don’t think poor black kids should have a nice school, just say that.
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NP but it’s not about claiming a nice building magically makes test scores drastically improve. A nice building doesn’t undo the complex things going on in neighborhoods and in kids’ homes. But kids deserve to not go to a school that feels like a prison (which some HSs did feel like before renovation), has mold/lead/mice, and has up to date resources and technology. Did you ever step foot in Dunbar before the renovation? It was an awful building. |
Uh, well, we've been told since forever that the problem with schools is funding. Can we agree now that the problem isn't funding? That the problem is incredibly low standards and the fact that DCPS doesn't care if kids show up for school, let alone learn anything? The best schools in this city, like BASIS and Latin and School Without Walls, are garbage heaps compared to Ballou. |
Two of those three schools aren’t DCPS, so no they don’t get renovated in DCPS budget. You want schools that aren’t beholden to dcps? You got them, but they don’t get the same resources. |
| Also, the glue trap ban from city council has been terrible for schools. Schools are scared of using snap traps for kid safety. |
Sure, DCPS could spend money on hurt things as well, but if they didn’t renovate buildings you would have parents complaining about leaking ceilings, mold, AC/heat issues, overcrowded classrooms and/or kids using converted copy rooms, etc as classroom. Renovations don’t directly increase outcomes, nobody claims they do. But it’s where our kids spend 8 hours/day and they deserve to have decent conditions. Yes Walls and Basis aren’t great buildings, but they are physically in good shape. |