I fear for the future of Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Yes but the theater and dance kids wouldn't have a reason to go to Northwood and the kids that want to do IB would stay at Einstein instead of leaving. Suddenly boom, there is "not enough interest at Einstein" for this because they sent a bunch of the interested kids to other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Yes but the theater and dance kids wouldn't have a reason to go to Northwood and the kids that want to do IB would stay at Einstein instead of leaving. Suddenly boom, there is "not enough interest at Einstein" for this because they sent a bunch of the interested kids to other schools.

But they can't just opt into the new programs, they'd have to apply for a limited number of spots. And some kids may have no interest in bussing to Northwood or BCC for programs like those already at their own school. How many Einstein catchment students have applied to the regional IB program at Kennedy?

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

They have caveated everything with "if there is interest". They are telling people Einstein will keep VAPA and IB. But Einstein's IB program is small (60-80 kids) so if 20-50 of them go to BCC, MCPS night say oh well not enough interest here sorry bye. And the 10-60 kids left at Einstein that want to do IB at any given time are out of luck. Maybe having the biomedical program can help to keep some of the IB classes but it seems quite uncertain that future Einstein students will be able to pursue the IB diploma at Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

Yes, which is what it sounds like Einstein plans to do.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

They have caveated everything with "if there is interest". They are telling people Einstein will keep VAPA and IB. But Einstein's IB program is small (60-80 kids) so if 20-50 of them go to BCC, MCPS night say oh well not enough interest here sorry bye. And the 10-60 kids left at Einstein that want to do IB at any given time are out of luck. Maybe having the biomedical program can help to keep some of the IB classes but it seems quite uncertain that future Einstein students will be able to pursue the IB diploma at Einstein.

Kids take IB as that is the only option, but often don't graduate as the IB schedule conflicts with the arts and other classes. If there is not interest it doesn't make sense to keep IB, but that is the only upper-level course for science and other areas, so what would replace it? I think, regardless they'd keep the IB and make it work.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

Yes, which is what it sounds like Einstein plans to do.

So, are they going to offer more teachers to expand the offerings? It would be nice if they'd clarify this.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Yes but the theater and dance kids wouldn't have a reason to go to Northwood and the kids that want to do IB would stay at Einstein instead of leaving. Suddenly boom, there is "not enough interest at Einstein" for this because they sent a bunch of the interested kids to other schools.

But they can't just opt into the new programs, they'd have to apply for a limited number of spots. And some kids may have no interest in bussing to Northwood or BCC for programs like those already at their own school. How many Einstein catchment students have applied to the regional IB program at Kennedy?

Not sure how many applied but 17 attended in FY25. I don't think you can predict interest in the BCC IB program based on the Kennedy program for a couple of reasons. They are suggesting the programs might have around 200 spots for non home school students so 50 per school. Not that many Whitman kids are going to be interested in this for the opposite reason not that many Einstein kids go to Kennedy. Of the others, Einstein is the closest school to BCC. I think it will easily be 50, maybe more kids that attend the BCC IB magnet from Einstein and that would be pretty damaging to the local IB diploma program.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

They have caveated everything with "if there is interest". They are telling people Einstein will keep VAPA and IB. But Einstein's IB program is small (60-80 kids) so if 20-50 of them go to BCC, MCPS night say oh well not enough interest here sorry bye. And the 10-60 kids left at Einstein that want to do IB at any given time are out of luck. Maybe having the biomedical program can help to keep some of the IB classes but it seems quite uncertain that future Einstein students will be able to pursue the IB diploma at Einstein.

But are you asking them to commit to maintaining a program even if there isn't enough interest in the future? Why would they do that?

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

But if they had put the IB and/or theatre and dance magnets at Einstein those would be just as new and as unfunded as the other regional magnets. (Einstein has never had criteria-based magnet programs other than VAC.)

Isn't the IB staying so what does it matter if its a magnet or not?

The problem is that the music/theater and dance kids all intermix in the different disciplines, so it would be nice to have them all strong programs but they can be strong without the "magnet" label.

They have caveated everything with "if there is interest". They are telling people Einstein will keep VAPA and IB. But Einstein's IB program is small (60-80 kids) so if 20-50 of them go to BCC, MCPS night say oh well not enough interest here sorry bye. And the 10-60 kids left at Einstein that want to do IB at any given time are out of luck. Maybe having the biomedical program can help to keep some of the IB classes but it seems quite uncertain that future Einstein students will be able to pursue the IB diploma at Einstein.

But are you asking them to commit to maintaining a program even if there isn't enough interest in the future? Why would they do that?

In the above post I am describing the potential impact of putting an IB magnet at BCC that is open to Whitman, BCC, Einstein, Northwood and Blair.

They are proposing changing the status quo in a way that will have predictable negative impacts on students at Einstein, especially those that are not accepted or can't travel to the other schools. It reduces the opportunities available to students Einstein.

I think MCPS should put some thought into these impacts before they implement the massive changes they are proposing.

Personally, I think they should scrap the whole regional program proposal. They can dissolve the DCC if they want but at least don't draw a bunch of Einstein students to the other schools in a way that will most certainly hollow out the existing programs at Einstein.

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Also, why is MCPS saying schools will keep their local programs? That is a lie. There is zero guarantee the local programs will remain. Why are we paying people to lie to us?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, why is MCPS saying schools will keep their local programs? That is a lie. There is zero guarantee the local programs will remain. Why are we paying people to lie to us?

This is a public school system, and there's zero guarantee of anything. But I think they are now helpfully communicating that these new regional programs aren't the only programs schools would have, there would also be local programs (which was not made clear in earlier presentations).

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

Putting Dance and Theatre at Northwood is an odd choice considering Einstein has a strong Theatre and Dance program. They need to do more shuffling or better yet DO RESEARCH.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

Putting Dance and Theatre at Northwood is an odd choice considering Einstein has a strong Theatre and Dance program. They need to do more shuffling or better yet DO RESEARCH.

All schools should have strong dance, music and theater programs. That would be the best solution.