I fear for the future of Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

DO you not understand that not everyone can afford a car for their teenagers???

The people saying MCPS is “forcing” them to spend 300k on private school now can though.

Expecting a teenager to buy and maintain a car just to access basic classes is unreasonable. Requiring new drivers to travel all over the county for the courses they need is equally ridiculous. MCPS cannot even offer parking to all students with cars at all schools. MCPS should offer comparable programs at every high school—this shouldn’t be a privilege reserved for a few.

Why should our kids be forced to leave their home school to access opportunities that your kids already have? Why are we expected to settle for a subpar experience while others get what they need without disruption?

So yes, we’re seriously considering private school. At this point, it’s cheaper and less disruptive than moving—and it actually provides the resources our kids deserve.

Wait so you can afford private school but not a car for your kid? And you are the mom of a math genius?

No she is being FORCED to pay for private school (many of which list MVC as highest math but don't offer it every year and many of which don't have buses).

We have to drive to school either way so its really a non-issue.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

If you don’t have kids at Einstein or DCC—or aren’t directly impacted—why does this even matter to you? The regional model, allowing only 120 students from other schools, makes little sense, as it ends up leaving more students behind than it helps. For DCC students, it’s especially tough on those interested in STEM, who might otherwise have opportunities at Wheaton or Blair. Meanwhile, Einstein is already overcrowded and has outdated facilities—not even on the list for upgrades. If students were moved out, the school could easily take in 120 or more new students.

There’s a distinction between VAPA and VAC, but VAC falls under the VAPA umbrella. To truly function as a magnet, Einstein would need additional teachers, funding and classes. I suspect the real issue might be the school leadership—if the administration isn’t willing to allocate the necessary resources, there’s little point in establishing a magnet there in the first place. Perhaps the principal at Northwood is more open to making that investment.

If you're planning to remove the arts program, fine—but replace it with something meaningful. The future for Einstein doesn’t look promising right now. It’s not receiving any substantial new resources, and with staff reductions, something has to give. The school is already operating on a bare-bones model, so the cuts will likely hit the arts, other electives, or the few AP classes.

This response reeks of ignorance. You need to do more research on what MCPS is actually proposing for these regional programs—specifically, the programs’ capacities and the funding they’ve allocated. If you think these are gonna be fully fleshed-out, well-funded magnets, you are sadly mistaken.

They don't have the funding for this. MCPS can only make this work if they make cuts in other areas, or the county council gives them more money. So, which one will it be? Are you ok with your property taxes going up to pay for something that really has no good benefit to anyone?

+1 word on the curve is they’re not even adding new teachers to these programs.

At a PTSA meeting this week Taylor explicitly said that there would be significant hiring of teachers in these program expansions. He gave a staffing number (several million but nothing exorbitant) and noted that MCPS has no problem filling vacancies for experienced teachers--noting that it is a problem that they tend to poach teachers from HoCo and PG so the teacher workforce here is of shorter duration. He discussed wanting to inspire more students to go into teaching. Not saying there is the money or that it will be a resounding success--but he is not saying that he'll just reshuffle existing teachers to create new programs in each region.

Are you sure he meant significant hiring into newly created positions on top of current staffing, rather than just to fill vacancies/transfer people?

Also, the one program coordinator position at each school (the only new staffing I heard mentioned) would cost upwards of $2 million just on its own. Adding additional teachers for all the programs would probably cost closer to $10 million or more.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

If you don’t have kids at Einstein or DCC—or aren’t directly impacted—why does this even matter to you? The regional model, allowing only 120 students from other schools, makes little sense, as it ends up leaving more students behind than it helps. For DCC students, it’s especially tough on those interested in STEM, who might otherwise have opportunities at Wheaton or Blair. Meanwhile, Einstein is already overcrowded and has outdated facilities—not even on the list for upgrades. If students were moved out, the school could easily take in 120 or more new students.

There’s a distinction between VAPA and VAC, but VAC falls under the VAPA umbrella. To truly function as a magnet, Einstein would need additional teachers, funding and classes. I suspect the real issue might be the school leadership—if the administration isn’t willing to allocate the necessary resources, there’s little point in establishing a magnet there in the first place. Perhaps the principal at Northwood is more open to making that investment.

If you're planning to remove the arts program, fine—but replace it with something meaningful. The future for Einstein doesn’t look promising right now. It’s not receiving any substantial new resources, and with staff reductions, something has to give. The school is already operating on a bare-bones model, so the cuts will likely hit the arts, other electives, or the few AP classes.

This response reeks of ignorance. You need to do more research on what MCPS is actually proposing for these regional programs—specifically, the programs’ capacities and the funding they’ve allocated. If you think these are gonna be fully fleshed-out, well-funded magnets, you are sadly mistaken.

They don't have the funding for this. MCPS can only make this work if they make cuts in other areas, or the county council gives them more money. So, which one will it be? Are you ok with your property taxes going up to pay for something that really has no good benefit to anyone?

+1 word on the curve is they’re not even adding new teachers to these programs.

At a PTSA meeting this week Taylor explicitly said that there would be significant hiring of teachers in these program expansions. He gave a staffing number (several million but nothing exorbitant) and noted that MCPS has no problem filling vacancies for experienced teachers--noting that it is a problem that they tend to poach teachers from HoCo and PG so the teacher workforce here is of shorter duration. He discussed wanting to inspire more students to go into teaching. Not saying there is the money or that it will be a resounding success--but he is not saying that he'll just reshuffle existing teachers to create new programs in each region.

I literally wanna sing "liar liar crocodile" in front of Taylor. He puts ZERO dollar in the staffing budget in the slides for hiring new teachers in August and October again, and he was lying in front of the parent association that he now plans to hire new teachers? Just to please the parents? Or just to hide some surprise for next year when he asks for that money?

Is the meeting recorded?

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

DO you not understand that not everyone can afford a car for their teenagers???

The people saying MCPS is “forcing” them to spend 300k on private school now can though.

Expecting a teenager to buy and maintain a car just to access basic classes is unreasonable. Requiring new drivers to travel all over the county for the courses they need is equally ridiculous. MCPS cannot even offer parking to all students with cars at all schools. MCPS should offer comparable programs at every high school—this shouldn’t be a privilege reserved for a few.

Why should our kids be forced to leave their home school to access opportunities that your kids already have? Why are we expected to settle for a subpar experience while others get what they need without disruption?

So yes, we’re seriously considering private school. At this point, it’s cheaper and less disruptive than moving—and it actually provides the resources our kids deserve.

Wait so you can afford private school but not a car for your kid? And you are the mom of a math genius?

The point is parents shouldn't be forced to buy a car. I don't believe in buying teens cars. It's silly when they cannot take it to college with them as well. Yes, we can afford a car and/or private, but private is a better value if it meets the child's academic needs.

Wait until the private with MVC doesn’t have a bus and you need to buy your kid a car to get to/from.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

DO you not understand that not everyone can afford a car for their teenagers???

The people saying MCPS is “forcing” them to spend 300k on private school now can though.

Expecting a teenager to buy and maintain a car just to access basic classes is unreasonable. Requiring new drivers to travel all over the county for the courses they need is equally ridiculous. MCPS cannot even offer parking to all students with cars at all schools. MCPS should offer comparable programs at every high school—this shouldn’t be a privilege reserved for a few.

Why should our kids be forced to leave their home school to access opportunities that your kids already have? Why are we expected to settle for a subpar experience while others get what they need without disruption?

So yes, we’re seriously considering private school. At this point, it’s cheaper and less disruptive than moving—and it actually provides the resources our kids deserve.

Wait so you can afford private school but not a car for your kid? And you are the mom of a math genius?

The point is parents shouldn't be forced to buy a car. I don't believe in buying teens cars. It's silly when they cannot take it to college with them as well. Yes, we can afford a car and/or private, but private is a better value if it meets the child's academic needs.

Wait until the private with MVC doesn’t have a bus and you need to buy your kid a car to get to/from.

We don’t get bus now. There is a two mile rule and it’s not a safe walk.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

If you don’t have kids at Einstein or DCC—or aren’t directly impacted—why does this even matter to you? The regional model, allowing only 120 students from other schools, makes little sense, as it ends up leaving more students behind than it helps. For DCC students, it’s especially tough on those interested in STEM, who might otherwise have opportunities at Wheaton or Blair. Meanwhile, Einstein is already overcrowded and has outdated facilities—not even on the list for upgrades. If students were moved out, the school could easily take in 120 or more new students.

There’s a distinction between VAPA and VAC, but VAC falls under the VAPA umbrella. To truly function as a magnet, Einstein would need additional teachers, funding and classes. I suspect the real issue might be the school leadership—if the administration isn’t willing to allocate the necessary resources, there’s little point in establishing a magnet there in the first place. Perhaps the principal at Northwood is more open to making that investment.

If you're planning to remove the arts program, fine—but replace it with something meaningful. The future for Einstein doesn’t look promising right now. It’s not receiving any substantial new resources, and with staff reductions, something has to give. The school is already operating on a bare-bones model, so the cuts will likely hit the arts, other electives, or the few AP classes.

This response reeks of ignorance. You need to do more research on what MCPS is actually proposing for these regional programs—specifically, the programs’ capacities and the funding they’ve allocated. If you think these are gonna be fully fleshed-out, well-funded magnets, you are sadly mistaken.

They don't have the funding for this. MCPS can only make this work if they make cuts in other areas, or the county council gives them more money. So, which one will it be? Are you ok with your property taxes going up to pay for something that really has no good benefit to anyone?

+1 word on the curve is they’re not even adding new teachers to these programs.

At a PTSA meeting this week Taylor explicitly said that there would be significant hiring of teachers in these program expansions. He gave a staffing number (several million but nothing exorbitant) and noted that MCPS has no problem filling vacancies for experienced teachers--noting that it is a problem that they tend to poach teachers from HoCo and PG so the teacher workforce here is of shorter duration. He discussed wanting to inspire more students to go into teaching. Not saying there is the money or that it will be a resounding success--but he is not saying that he'll just reshuffle existing teachers to create new programs in each region.

I literally wanna sing "liar liar crocodile" in front of Taylor. He puts ZERO dollar in the staffing budget in the slides for hiring new teachers in August and October again, and he was lying in front of the parent association that he now plans to hire new teachers? Just to please the parents? Or just to hide some surprise for next year when he asks for that money?

Is the meeting recorded?

+ 1,000

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

If you don’t have kids at Einstein or DCC—or aren’t directly impacted—why does this even matter to you? The regional model, allowing only 120 students from other schools, makes little sense, as it ends up leaving more students behind than it helps. For DCC students, it’s especially tough on those interested in STEM, who might otherwise have opportunities at Wheaton or Blair. Meanwhile, Einstein is already overcrowded and has outdated facilities—not even on the list for upgrades. If students were moved out, the school could easily take in 120 or more new students.

There’s a distinction between VAPA and VAC, but VAC falls under the VAPA umbrella. To truly function as a magnet, Einstein would need additional teachers, funding and classes. I suspect the real issue might be the school leadership—if the administration isn’t willing to allocate the necessary resources, there’s little point in establishing a magnet there in the first place. Perhaps the principal at Northwood is more open to making that investment.

If you're planning to remove the arts program, fine—but replace it with something meaningful. The future for Einstein doesn’t look promising right now. It’s not receiving any substantial new resources, and with staff reductions, something has to give. The school is already operating on a bare-bones model, so the cuts will likely hit the arts, other electives, or the few AP classes.

This response reeks of ignorance. You need to do more research on what MCPS is actually proposing for these regional programs—specifically, the programs’ capacities and the funding they’ve allocated. If you think these are gonna be fully fleshed-out, well-funded magnets, you are sadly mistaken.

They don't have the funding for this. MCPS can only make this work if they make cuts in other areas, or the county council gives them more money. So, which one will it be? Are you ok with your property taxes going up to pay for something that really has no good benefit to anyone?

+1 word on the curve is they’re not even adding new teachers to these programs.

At a PTSA meeting this week Taylor explicitly said that there would be significant hiring of teachers in these program expansions. He gave a staffing number (several million but nothing exorbitant) and noted that MCPS has no problem filling vacancies for experienced teachers--noting that it is a problem that they tend to poach teachers from HoCo and PG so the teacher workforce here is of shorter duration. He discussed wanting to inspire more students to go into teaching. Not saying there is the money or that it will be a resounding success--but he is not saying that he'll just reshuffle existing teachers to create new programs in each region.

I literally wanna sing "liar liar crocodile" in front of Taylor. He puts ZERO dollar in the staffing budget in the slides for hiring new teachers in August and October again, and he was lying in front of the parent association that he now plans to hire new teachers? Just to please the parents? Or just to hide some surprise for next year when he asks for that money?

Is the meeting recorded?

He also promised transparency and accountability when he first arrived, saying he'd get the budget under control. His idea is to ask for more money, like his predecessors and not make the changes needed and wanted. Maybe that is why some are switching to the county council to fund this?

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Translation: “Einstein should be given s*** because that’s what they can handle.” The only reason MCPS gave Northwood that program is because of a new shiny building, that’s it. I seriously believe that they thought Einstein wouldn’t fight back, which is why they’re starting to change their tune.

They have been fighting. Writing letters, going to the BOE and other meetings. You think central office cares?

Yes? I mean, they added criteria-based music and biomedical science magnets for Einstein in this week's update. In addition to the criteria-based VAC.

And also clarified that VAPA and IB will remain as local programs.

They can always end a program due to "lack of interest" at any time

That seems reasonable.

In other words they are making several changes that will reduce the numbers of students interested in local programs at Einstein. These changes include:
- putting the IB magnet at BCC
- putting the theater and dance magnet at Northwood
- Reducing enrollment at Einstein (reducing over is good, but it comes with unintended negative consequences that interact with the two items above).

Putting the music and biomedical programs.at Einstein is an interesting idea that might mitigate these issues, but for now it sounds like they will be new unfunded programs. So there is a lot of uncertainty there.

BCC and Whitman, on the other hand, only stand to gain from these proposals.

It's probably more for show than anything. BCC and Whitman have the classes already, so they don't lose anything, and it costs little to MCPS. They are probably more fancy new titles so they don't have to do reductions. The biomedical program will require specialized classrooms, teachers, and equipment, so where does that funding come from?