All the boundary options are bad for the DCC-- how do we organize against that? (Any ideas for alternative options?)

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

I don’t see how you could have read that post and drawn this conclusion. I am not the poster who wrote it but I am an Einstein parent. We love our school, and especially the visual and performing arts. Those programs will suffer under the proposed program changes. We also have friends in neighborhoods that will now not go to Einstein anymore under the boundary changes. And all of the changes will result in a smaller school with fewer resources. We’re not trying to move to a new house; we’re trying to protect our current house from being bulldozed.

Bold part is going to happen to lots of families all over county. No point in talking about it.

Community should focus on advocating for visual and performing arts.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

I don’t see how you could have read that post and drawn this conclusion. I am not the poster who wrote it but I am an Einstein parent. We love our school, and especially the visual and performing arts. Those programs will suffer under the proposed program changes. We also have friends in neighborhoods that will now not go to Einstein anymore under the boundary changes. And all of the changes will result in a smaller school with fewer resources. We’re not trying to move to a new house; we’re trying to protect our current house from being bulldozed.

+100, the flippers are here, and it's unfortunate, as it changes the feel of the neighborhoods. These neighborhoods may not be "fancy," but we choose them for the community feel. It's so nice to look outside and see people walking, kids out playing, and people stopping and saying hi to each other. We could afford more, but like the neighborhood, arts are important to us, and it's easy access for jobs and activities.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

DP the data I'm aware of which is quite old is that about a third of students go to a different DCC school than their home school.

It should never happen. 1/3 rd of school population going to differnet school will result in 1-2 schools getting left behind with sub par course offering due to most motivated kids leaving to other schools. It penalizes students who are left behind due to not winning lottery.

At least now you can lottery or try to COSA and its more flexible. That will change.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

DP the data I'm aware of which is quite old is that about a third of students go to a different DCC school than their home school.

It should never happen. 1/3 rd of school population going to differnet school will result in 1-2 schools getting left behind with sub par course offering due to most motivated kids leaving to other schools. It penalizes students who are left behind due to not winning lottery.

At least now you can lottery or try to COSA and its more flexible. That will change.

But why have intentioanal system which makes some school stronger and some weaker by design?

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I’m in-bound for Einstein but my kids don’t attend yet. I don’t care about nimby Kensington parents who can’t handle the thought of being rezoned to Einstein. I don’t care about nimby currently zoned Einstein parents who can’t handle the thought of any higher FARMs schools being rezoned to Einstein. My gripe with MCPS is that they don’t have the same course offerings at all the schools. Offer the same classes at each high school and we’re good!

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

What are you talking about? We like Einstein now, and we don't want it to get worse. How hard is that to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

I don’t see how you could have read that post and drawn this conclusion. I am not the poster who wrote it but I am an Einstein parent. We love our school, and especially the visual and performing arts. Those programs will suffer under the proposed program changes. We also have friends in neighborhoods that will now not go to Einstein anymore under the boundary changes. And all of the changes will result in a smaller school with fewer resources. We’re not trying to move to a new house; we’re trying to protect our current house from being bulldozed.

+100, the flippers are here, and it's unfortunate, as it changes the feel of the neighborhoods. These neighborhoods may not be "fancy," but we choose them for the community feel. It's so nice to look outside and see people walking, kids out playing, and people stopping and saying hi to each other. We could afford more, but like the neighborhood, arts are important to us, and it's easy access for jobs and activities.

The program proposal would need approval from BOE before moving forward, per today’s council meeting. Council is skeptical about the programs analysis timeline and feasibility (see the thread about this), so its passage is definitely not a foregone conclusion.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

I don’t see how you could have read that post and drawn this conclusion. I am not the poster who wrote it but I am an Einstein parent. We love our school, and especially the visual and performing arts. Those programs will suffer under the proposed program changes. We also have friends in neighborhoods that will now not go to Einstein anymore under the boundary changes. And all of the changes will result in a smaller school with fewer resources. We’re not trying to move to a new house; we’re trying to protect our current house from being bulldozed.

+100, the flippers are here, and it's unfortunate, as it changes the feel of the neighborhoods. These neighborhoods may not be "fancy," but we choose them for the community feel. It's so nice to look outside and see people walking, kids out playing, and people stopping and saying hi to each other. We could afford more, but like the neighborhood, arts are important to us, and it's easy access for jobs and activities.

The program proposal would need approval from BOE before moving forward, per today’s council meeting. Council is skeptical about the programs analysis timeline and feasibility (see the thread about this), so its passage is definitely not a foregone conclusion.

Forgot to add that if you think the timeline should be extended by a year to provide opportunity for stakeholders and communities to have a meaningful voice and influence in final decisions, then you need to voice this to BOE, council members, and MCCPTA.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

I don’t see how you could have read that post and drawn this conclusion. I am not the poster who wrote it but I am an Einstein parent. We love our school, and especially the visual and performing arts. Those programs will suffer under the proposed program changes. We also have friends in neighborhoods that will now not go to Einstein anymore under the boundary changes. And all of the changes will result in a smaller school with fewer resources. We’re not trying to move to a new house; we’re trying to protect our current house from being bulldozed.

+100, the flippers are here, and it's unfortunate, as it changes the feel of the neighborhoods. These neighborhoods may not be "fancy," but we choose them for the community feel. It's so nice to look outside and see people walking, kids out playing, and people stopping and saying hi to each other. We could afford more, but like the neighborhood, arts are important to us, and it's easy access for jobs and activities.

The program proposal would need approval from BOE before moving forward, per today’s council meeting. Council is skeptical about the programs analysis timeline and feasibility (see the thread about this), so its passage is definitely not a foregone conclusion.

Forgot to add that if you think the timeline should be extended by a year to provide opportunity for stakeholders and communities to have a meaningful voice and influence in final decisions, then you need to voice this to BOE, council members, and MCCPTA.

This is the thread:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1296122.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m in-bound for Einstein but my kids don’t attend yet. I don’t care about nimby Kensington parents who can’t handle the thought of being rezoned to Einstein. I don’t care about nimby currently zoned Einstein parents who can’t handle the thought of any higher FARMs schools being rezoned to Einstein. My gripe with MCPS is that they don’t have the same course offerings at all the schools. Offer the same classes at each high school and we’re good!

Why would the Kensington parents not want to go to Einstein? I’m not following.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

What are you talking about? We like Einstein now, and we don't want it to get worse. How hard is that to understand?

And it is getting worse how? More FARMS kids?

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

What are you talking about? We like Einstein now, and we don't want it to get worse. How hard is that to understand?

And it is getting worse how? More FARMS kids?

Reduced offerings and loss of existing programs - are you reading the thread?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in-bound for Einstein but my kids don’t attend yet. I don’t care about nimby Kensington parents who can’t handle the thought of being rezoned to Einstein. I don’t care about nimby currently zoned Einstein parents who can’t handle the thought of any higher FARMs schools being rezoned to Einstein. My gripe with MCPS is that they don’t have the same course offerings at all the schools. Offer the same classes at each high school and we’re good!

Why would the Kensington parents not want to go to Einstein? I’m not following.

DP. The Town of Kensington has been zoned to Walter Johnson HS for a long time, which has a better reputation than Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

A good number.

So a good number bought in areas in order to not attend your neighborhood school but to attend a different school, and now are upset through the change in the regions and the end in the DCC this will be at least different? And what’s the issue with the boundaries? Is that a separate issue or overlapping?

So we moved to the area when my child was 2. She is 6 now. If the DCC were to continue, I have no idea which high school she'd list as her first choice in 7 years because it would depend on her interests. That's how the DCC works. As numerous people have explained, the proposed regional program model will reduce choice and flexibility for kids in the DCC to pursue their interests. Many people bought in the area after hearing about the benefits of the choice and the various programs from parents whose kids went through the programs.

But what in the new boundary options influences this? This sounds like you are upset in the regional program change. I am just trying to understand the DCC issues with these options.

DP but the issue is that both the boundary options and the program changes are bad for Einstein (boundary options all increase the FARMS rate at Einstein, some substantially.) Either one on its own might be tolerable, but the combination of the both of them (plus the drop in enrollment due to the boundary changes, which would be fine on its own but just further aggravates these issues in combination) is just going to be a really big blow to Einstein unless one or both of those things changes.

Sorry are you people who are zoned to Einstein don’t want to be and want to be able to go to a different school? Is it that bad of a school?

What are you talking about? We like Einstein now, and we don't want it to get worse. How hard is that to understand?

And it is getting worse how? More FARMS kids?

Reduced offerings and loss of existing programs - are you reading the thread?

I am but this is about boundary changes and all everyone talks about is no longer getting to lottery to a different school.

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Anonymous wrote:It is reasonable for non-DCC parents to care about what the DCC parents might propose if that has an impact on the non-DCC. This thread early in had some significant negative comments from DCC parents regarding BCC and Whitman. Ergo one would expect DCC parents to propose changes that would negatively impact non-DCC.

I think you should stop reading this thread and determine how you feel about the MCPS regional program proposal on its merits. Don't worry , the DCC PTAs are mobilizing to advocate for ourselves. I know that may seem unbelievable to you but it is true. You should advocate for what you think is important.

I have been following those discussions as well. I’m happy that the DCC PTA are mobilizing around them. To me the magnet issues seem to only impact a select few (who can get into magnets/regional programs/whatever we are calling them now) and I therefore am not as moved by the issue (even for my own family).

The magnet is a separate issue and most families don't care as there are about 100 slots per grade. The bonus of the magnet and other programs is because of these programs those schools to offer higher-level courses that all families can try to lottery into. The lottery system with the DCC affords some kids the opportunity to go to schools that have the classes they need so they don't go without. The course offerings between your schools and our schools is very different.

But how many kids in the DCC go to a different school than their one assigned by boundary? That’s still a minority.

DP the data I'm aware of which is quite old is that about a third of students go to a different DCC school than their home school.

It should never happen. 1/3 rd of school population going to differnet school will result in 1-2 schools getting left behind with sub par course offering due to most motivated kids leaving to other schools. It penalizes students who are left behind due to not winning lottery.

At least now you can lottery or try to COSA and its more flexible. That will change.

But why have intentioanal system which makes some school stronger and some weaker by design?

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And the “choice” is illusory. There are no choices if you don’t win the lottery.