Final UK undergrad ranking is out as if last night (The Times)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She heard back from St Andrews today. She was rejected. She is crushed…..Durham might be it. We will be visiting both of them next month. Any suggestions?

Sorry to hear that. As others have posted, Durham is a great uni.
Would you mind sharing her Stats?

Posted before:

39 IB. Not an AP school, just 2 APs self study at 5 (planning on taking 2 more after senior yr)
1500 SAT one seating.

We thought she was a shoo-in St Andrews since others have gotten in with less than that.

[Anonymous]

When are you going to tour Durham? DD wants to apply to Durham too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She heard back from St Andrews today. She was rejected. She is crushed…..Durham might be it. We will be visiting both of them next month. Any suggestions?

Sorry to hear that. As others have posted, Durham is a great uni.
Would you mind sharing her Stats?

Posted before:

39 IB. Not an AP school, just 2 APs self study at 5 (planning on taking 2 more after senior yr)
1500 SAT one seating.

We thought she was a shoo-in St Andrews since others have gotten in with less than that.

What program did she apply to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

While that is true, it not often you see an international student getting accepted to their 2nd year. It typically for UK students or A level students who have excelled (A*) in the subject alongside a strong curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a[b] ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

Not really, St. Andrews is $71,968 a year plus you have to add on airfare, which is a LOT over four years plus cost of family going over for graduation. https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/. That's easily $320,000. Your state flagship at $40K would be a far better investment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a[b] ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

Not really, St. Andrews is $71,968 a year plus you have to add on airfare, which is a LOT over four years plus cost of family going over for graduation. https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/. That's easily $320,000. Your state flagship at $40K would be a far better investment.

Oh god again. Nobody here but you are talking about state flagships. One of my kids at st andrews and i have never in 3 yrs spent $72k. Stop the bs. Flights from Phily or NyC to Edi are basically the same price as flighta accross the us. Besides, tuition is $44-45k dollars. If u live on campus you can do it cor $10-11k dollars. Stop spreading misinformation. $55k to $56k for tuition and accomodations this upcoming year.

[Anonymous]

Plus…. Exhange rate now at 1.36 to 1. All it takes is a little less lunacy from our gov for exchange rates to improve, meaning at least you have a chance to pay less in dollars in future years than you pay today. There is ZERO chance you would pay less in future years at a US Private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a[b] ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

Not really, St. Andrews is $71,968 a year plus you have to add on airfare, which is a LOT over four years plus cost of family going over for graduation. https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/. That's easily $320,000. Your state flagship at $40K would be a far better investment.

Oh god again. Nobody here but you are talking about state flagships. One of my kids at st andrews and i have never [b]in 3 yrs spent $72k. Stop the bs. Flights from Phily or NyC to Edi are basically the same price as flighta accross the us. Besides, tuition is $44-45k dollars. If u live on campus you can do it cor $10-11k dollars. Stop spreading misinformation. $55k to $56k for tuition and accomodations this upcoming year.

What is wrong with you? The PP’s link to St Andrews site adds up to precisely that! Who cares what you think you paid? I’m going with what St. Andrews prints as COA.

[Anonymous]

Do you even know what the purpose of the COA is. Omg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a[b] ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

Not really, St. Andrews is $71,968 a year plus you have to add on airfare, which is a LOT over four years plus cost of family going over for graduation. https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/. That's easily $320,000. Your state flagship at $40K would be a far better investment.

Oh god again. Nobody here but you are talking about state flagships. One of my kids at st andrews and i have never [b]in 3 yrs spent $72k. Stop the bs. Flights from Phily or NyC to Edi are basically the same price as flighta accross the us. Besides, tuition is $44-45k dollars. If u live on campus you can do it cor $10-11k dollars. Stop spreading misinformation. $55k to $56k for tuition and accomodations this upcoming year.

What is wrong with you? The PP’s link to St Andrews site adds up to precisely that! Who cares what you think you paid? I’m going with what St. Andrews prints as COA.

Considering im paying for one more yr there, i think i know a little more than you….

33,250 pounds for tuition. If DD was at a school hall like DRA she would pay 8,000 pounds….. do the math….. she actually shares an apt in town w 3 other girls and pays $650 a month…. So yes i know what im talking about.

[Anonymous]

For what it's worth, DS is at Edinburgh this year and I have spent $52,000 on tuition, residential catered college and airfares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just average them out:

This is the avg using the same weight:

1. Oxford — avg 2.33

2. Cambridge / LSE & St Andrews — tied at avg 2.67

3. Durham — avg 4.33
4. Imperial — avg 6.00
5. Warwick — avg 8.00
6. Bath — avg 7.67
7. Loughborough — avg 10.00
8. UCL — avg 10.67
9. Lancaster — avg 11.33
10. Exeter — avg 14.00

Your averages are not correct…. This is the correct avg of all 3:

1. Oxford — 2.33
2. Cambridge / LSE / St Andrews — 2.67
3. Durham — 4.33
4. Imperial — 6.00
5. Bath — 7.67
6. Warwick — 8.00
7. Loughborough — 10.00
8. UCL — 10.67
9. Lancaster — 13.00
10. Bristol — 13.33
11. Exeter — 14.00

Outside Oxbridge which would compete with Ivies, any of these schools here would be a great option for any US student looking to save 30 to 60% vs Full pay US privates.

This is exactly what we are looking at. Kid wont be applying to Oxbridge. But will apply to 5 of the ones in this exact list. If your kid knows what he/she wants to do, the 3 yr programs in England make a lot of sense and yes, you will be saving a[b] ton of money (specially if outside of London). The Scottish unis being 4 yrs reduce the gap in price. But it still still cheaper than most top 100 private full pay.

Scottish unis also have 3 year programs for quite a few subjects

Not really, St. Andrews is $71,968 a year plus you have to add on airfare, which is a LOT over four years plus cost of family going over for graduation. https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/. That's easily $320,000. Your state flagship at $40K would be a far better investment.

Oh god again. Nobody here but you are talking about state flagships. One of my kids at st andrews and i have never [b]in 3 yrs spent $72k. Stop the bs. Flights from Phily or NyC to Edi are basically the same price as flighta accross the us. Besides, tuition is $44-45k dollars. If u live on campus you can do it cor $10-11k dollars. Stop spreading misinformation. $55k to $56k for tuition and accomodations this upcoming year.

What is wrong with you? The PP’s link to St Andrews site adds up to precisely that! Who cares what you think you paid? I’m going with what St. Andrews prints as COA.

Considering im paying for one more yr there, i think i know a little more than you….

33,250 pounds for tuition. If DD was at a school hall like DRA she would pay 8,000 pounds….. do the math….. she actually shares an apt in town w 3 other girls and pays $650 a month…. So yes i know what im talking about.

My kid is at St. Andrews. We are paying more than the $71,128 listed right here for tuition and fees. Airfare is additional https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/internationalstudents/ugcoa/.

[Anonymous]

Cambridge is expensive for an American. Tuition is $30,000 pounds to $70,500 pounds, depending upon major; there's a living costs estimate of $1,305 pounds (does not include travel); College fees of $12,000 pounds, and Room at $11,745 pounds. Meals are estimated to be between 4 and 7 pounds each. That can go well over $100K fast. https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/international-students/international-fees-and-costs