Gate lice’ beware: American Airlines is catching early boarders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

NP. So what? We wait in traffic to get to the airport; if we check bags, we wait in the airline front desk line; we wait in the security line; we wait in line at the bookstore or the newsstand or the coffee shop; we wait in the boarding line; we wait while people store their bags and take their seats; once seated, we wait for the rest of the plane to board. We wait for taxi and takeoff; we wait in line for the bathroom; we wait to give our beverage order, then we wait to receive the beverage. We wait to throw our trash away when they come by. We wait for the signal that we may use electronic devices, or unbuckle our seatbelt to move about the cabin. We wait until we are allowed to put down our tray tables. We wait for the plane to come to a complete stop before unbuckling and getting our bags. We wait to be able to use our electronic devices again once the plane lands.

And then, yes, we wait a few moments as the passengers in front of us get their bags and move up the aisle; we wait to deplane.

So there’s no need for you to act huffy if someone chooses to check a bag, and needs a moment to retrieve it. If you haven’t learned that travels requires patience by now, what’s wrong with you?

Hon, this is about people who aren't checking bags.

Actually, sweetie, you were directly talking to someone who DOES check bags, and you were telling that person “Everyone behind you is waiting…” like they don’t know that.

So actually, sweetie, since you were talking TO people who check bags, guess what? One responded. And reminded you, very gently and slowly so you can understand, that *waiting is a part of traveling.* So get over it.

No, you were responding to someone who typed "Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…"

That's what you were responding to. And that person is talking about people who don't know where their bag is on the airplane and can't deal with it deftly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

NP. So what? we wait in traffic to get to the airport; if we check bags, we wait in the airline front desk line; we wait in the security line; we wait in line at the bookstore or the newsstand or the coffee shop; we wait in the boarding line; we wait while people store their bags and take their seats; once seated, we wait for the rest of the plane to board. we wait for taxi and takeoff; we wait in line for the bathroom; we wait to give our beverage order, then we wait to receive the beverage. we wait to throw our trash away when they come by. we wait for the signal that we may use electronic devices, or unbuckle our seatbelt to move about the cabin. we wait until we are allowed to put down our tray tables. we wait for the plane to come to a complete stop before unbuckling and getting our bags. we wait to be able to use our electronic devices again once the plane lands.

And then, yes, we wait a few moments as the passengers in front of us get their bags and move up the aisle; we wait to deplane.

So there’s no need for you to act huffy if someone chooses to check a bag, and needs a moment to retrieve it. If you haven’t learned that travels requires patience by now, what’s wrong with you?

Connecting. Flights. Don't. Wait.

Get your carryons in and out of the bin in fewer than 10 seconds, or check your bags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

Ans yet it happens - missed connections much more than "lost". Had to wait two days for my luggage in Budapest just last month. Business class ticket single carrier itinerary connection. So don't dismiss it please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

Ans yet it happens - missed connections much more than "lost". Had to wait two days for my luggage in Budapest just last month. Business class ticket single carrier itinerary connection. So don't dismiss it please.

Again, under the change that we're discussing, you could still pay to carry on.

So people who are concerned about late/missing luggage could pay and not worry.

Issue resolved. Next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

Ans yet it happens - missed connections much more than "lost". Had to wait two days for my luggage in Budapest just last month. Business class ticket single carrier itinerary connection. So don't dismiss it please.

Again, under the change that we're discussing, you could still pay to carry on.

So people who are concerned about late/missing luggage could pay and not worry.

Issue resolved. Next?

Good luck with that. Airlines are already under enough scrutiny including fees not not being subject to the same taxes on fares. A move as unpopular as charging fees for carryon may be enough to get regulators to reconsider the fee exemption

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

Ans yet it happens - missed connections much more than "lost". Had to wait two days for my luggage in Budapest just last month. Business class ticket single carrier itinerary connection. So don't dismiss it please.

Again, under the change that we're discussing, you could still pay to carry on.

So people who are concerned about late/missing luggage could pay and not worry.

Issue resolved. Next?

Good luck with that. Airlines are already under enough scrutiny including fees not not being subject to the same taxes on fares. A move as unpopular as charging fees for carryon may be enough to get regulators to reconsider the fee exemption

At least one major US carrier is already exploring it.

So far, the concerns have nothing to do with regulators (seriously?) or popularity.

The primary concerns are ops/logistics (including potential fleet mods) and revenue structuring/modeling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

Ans yet it happens - missed connections much more than "lost". Had to wait two days for my luggage in Budapest just last month. Business class ticket single carrier itinerary connection. So don't dismiss it please.

Again, under the change that we're discussing, you could still pay to carry on.

So people who are concerned about late/missing luggage could pay and not worry.

Issue resolved. Next?

So then you agree lost bags are a reasonable concern? Because I take no issue with the pay for carry on idea if it solves what is clearly a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

Ans yet it happens - missed connections much more than "lost". Had to wait two days for my luggage in Budapest just last month. Business class ticket single carrier itinerary connection. So don't dismiss it please.

Again, under the change that we're discussing, you could still pay to carry on.

So people who are concerned about late/missing luggage could pay and not worry.

Issue resolved. Next?

So then you agree lost bags are a reasonable concern? Because I take no issue with the pay for carry on idea if it solves what is clearly a problem.

I certainly agree that bags do get lost (actually more often "delayed"--very rarely permanently "lost") and that people worry about the issue.

Whether I think it's "reasonable" doesn't really matter, right? It's reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Until we get rid of the crazy carryon wheeled suitcase epidemic, we will never be able to board the plane back to front. That was a relic from back when many more people checked bags and overhead space was not at a premium.

People have learned that they can pack light and not risk airlines losing luggage and not have to wait for an hour by the carousel. Charging for bags created it, but now that people see how convenient it is, you'd have to actually incentives checked bags rather than just make it free again

The incentive for checking bags is not having to drag your suitcase all over the airport or fight over overhead space.

The majority of travelers are not in enough of a hurry that waiting at baggage for 15-20 minutes is that big of a deal. You aren't a head of state or CEO.

Airports and airlines have gotten way better about lost luggage in recent years. Technology does a lot to address this. But you can also help avoid human error by just supervising them tagging your bag and making sure the destination and name on the bag are correct before checking it. Also getting to the airport on time and checking in on time. If you do all this the odds of your bag being lost are actually quite low.*

*Excepting certain budget airlines here -- I don't fly airlines like Spirit that cut tons of corners and screw over customers but I also don't care if people carry onto those planes because I will never be one. I don't care what Spirit passengers do.

I do not agree. Many passengers are in a hurry and do not have time to wait. No heads of state or CEOs -- they fly private. But the level below that and below that are on your planes. No time to wait and even a 1% change of lost luggage is much too high.

Oh please. These people are not as important as they think they are. Give me a break

You seem to struggle with the idea that people’s lives are different than yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

You say this like you have some actual power to make decisions here. Paying to carry on isn’t happening any time soon. You’ll have to deal with waiting behind people you think are taking too long to get their bag. Good news is if you walk fast you can easily make up that time going around them on the jet bridge or in the terminal. That 12 seconds isn’t going to wreck your day. But a lost bag will.

Good lord. The lost bag phobia.

My bag was lost once by Delta for 2 weeks, on a direct flight. This was before air tags were a thing so we were at the mercy of the airlines to find it. For whatever reason it had flown to a completely different country.

Once it actually happens to you then you cannot understand. It was pretty ridiculous, I was told go shopping, we will pay you back. They never did despite my filling all forms and providing all receipts. Total complete nightmare.

I carry on whenever I can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am on a flight now and the instructions printed inside the overhead bins are crystal clear - if you have a rolling suitcase, turn it on its side and put it in wheels first. Yet people are laying them flat, horizontally, thereby taking up the space that could be used for three bags. Amazing. I wish the flight attendant would be able to ask people to set their bags in correctly but that would take even more time during boarding.

Remember that the flight attendants aren't even being paid during boarding.

Is this true?!

It is, and I'm not sure how it's even legal. They are required to be at work X hours before the flight departs, let's say 90m, boarding normally starts 50m prior. But they don't actually start getting paid until the door is closed, and they stop getting paid when the doors open upon landing. Even though they work an extra 2h per flight. Bizarre policy for sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Call me crazy. Charge a hefty fee for carryon and no fee to check. We could all board faster, deplane faster, and there would be fewer folks jockeying for overhead space.

I’m for this. In a hot second.

But check in would be busier.

Get in line earlier, duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people like me who travel frequently do not want to check bags. Once the airlines have lost one of your bags, you will never trust them again.

So you can pay to carry on.

Just try to take less than 5 minutes to get out of your seat, remember where you left your bag, struggle to haul it down, figure out how to extend the handle, and get moving.

Everyone behind you is waiting…

NP. So what? we wait in traffic to get to the airport; if we check bags, we wait in the airline front desk line; we wait in the security line; we wait in line at the bookstore or the newsstand or the coffee shop; we wait in the boarding line; we wait while people store their bags and take their seats; once seated, we wait for the rest of the plane to board. we wait for taxi and takeoff; we wait in line for the bathroom; we wait to give our beverage order, then we wait to receive the beverage. we wait to throw our trash away when they come by. we wait for the signal that we may use electronic devices, or unbuckle our seatbelt to move about the cabin. we wait until we are allowed to put down our tray tables. we wait for the plane to come to a complete stop before unbuckling and getting our bags. we wait to be able to use our electronic devices again once the plane lands.

And then, yes, we wait a few moments as the passengers in front of us get their bags and move up the aisle; we wait to deplane.

So there’s no need for you to act huffy if someone chooses to check a bag, and needs a moment to retrieve it. If you haven’t learned that travels requires patience by now, what’s wrong with you?

Connecting. Flights. Don't. Wait.

Get your carryons in and out of the bin in fewer than 10 seconds, or check your bags.

LOL, make me.

Plan better. If you chose the flight with the 20 minute layover versus the 2-hour layover, that’s not my problem. On flights where there is a potential issue, the *flight crew* make an announcement, and there’s no problem getting the layover people off first. I’ve seen that happen dozens of times.