Easiest T25?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


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Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I don’t know anyone that considers Tufts a social school.

You must have a limited social circle.

No…it’s just not a social school so it’s silly to include it with BC and Wake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is not T25

1. Harvard University: Strong liberal arts foundation, prestigious, large endowment

2. Stanford University: Integrated STEM and humanities education, entrepreneurial spirit, and a beautiful campus

3. Yale University: Known for its residential college system, Yale is strong in both liberal arts and STEM fields

4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT): Focus on STEM with a rigorous curriculum, innovation, and entrepreneurship

5. California Institute of Technology (Caltech): Prestigious STEM-focused school with student-faculty ratio of 3:1

6. Princeton University: Emphasis on undergraduate research, strong liberal arts, and engineering programs

7. University of Chicago: A rigorous academic environment known for its study of economics and interdisciplinary programs.

8. University of Pennsylvania: The Wharton School of Business, along with strong programs in nursing, engineering, and liberal arts.

9. Columbia University: Core Curriculum, strong liberal arts, and journalism programs, located in New York City.

10. Duke University: Excellent programs in public policy, biomedical engineering, and environmental sciences.

11. Johns Hopkins University: Top-notch research institution, especially in-fields like medicine, public health, and engineering.

12. Dartmouth College: Small liberal arts college with a strong emphasis on undergraduate teaching and a close-knit community.

13. Northwestern University: Great journalism, engineering, and music programs, located near Chicago.

14. Brown University: Open Curriculum allows students to tailor their education, strong pre-med and engineering programs.

15. Vanderbilt University: Known for education in the fields of medicine, education, and law, with a vibrant campus community.

16. Cornell University: Diverse range of programs including agriculture, hotel administration, and engineering.

17. Rice University: Small student body, strong engineering, and music programs, residential college system.

18. Washington University in St. Louis: Strong pre-med program, business, and social work programs, research opportunities.

19. University of Notre Dame: Highly-regarded business, architecture, and engineering programs, as well as a strong athletic culture.

20. Georgetown University: International relations, politics, and business programs, along with a campus situated in Washington, D.C.

21. Emory University: Excellent health sciences programs, along with strong business and humanities offerings.

22. Carnegie Mellon University: Reputation for computing, engineering, art, and design programs.

23. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA): Public university with strong programs in areas such as film, business, and engineering.

24. University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley): Top-tier public university with programs like computer science, engineering, and social sciences.

25. University of Southern California (USC): Film, engineering, and business programs, interdisciplinary studies, located in Los Angeles.

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force Academy, Wesleyan

Vanderbilt down 1, Cornell and Columbia up 1. I feel like your DC is at Vandy because that doesn't make sense. Drop BU, Tufts, NYU, USC, and Wake Forest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is not T25

1. Harvard University: Strong liberal arts foundation, prestigious, large endowment

2. Stanford University: Integrated STEM and humanities education, entrepreneurial spirit, and a beautiful campus

3. Yale University: Known for its residential college system, Yale is strong in both liberal arts and STEM fields

4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT): Focus on STEM with a rigorous curriculum, innovation, and entrepreneurship

5. California Institute of Technology (Caltech): Prestigious STEM-focused school with student-faculty ratio of 3:1

6. Princeton University: Emphasis on undergraduate research, strong liberal arts, and engineering programs

7. University of Chicago: A rigorous academic environment known for its study of economics and interdisciplinary programs.

8. University of Pennsylvania: The Wharton School of Business, along with strong programs in nursing, engineering, and liberal arts.

9. Columbia University: Core Curriculum, strong liberal arts, and journalism programs, located in New York City.

10. Duke University: Excellent programs in public policy, biomedical engineering, and environmental sciences.

11. Johns Hopkins University: Top-notch research institution, especially in-fields like medicine, public health, and engineering.

12. Dartmouth College: Small liberal arts college with a strong emphasis on undergraduate teaching and a close-knit community.

13. Northwestern University: Great journalism, engineering, and music programs, located near Chicago.

14. Brown University: Open Curriculum allows students to tailor their education, strong pre-med and engineering programs.

15. Vanderbilt University: Known for education in the fields of medicine, education, and law, with a vibrant campus community.

16. Cornell University: Diverse range of programs including agriculture, hotel administration, and engineering.

17. Rice University: Small student body, strong engineering, and music programs, residential college system.

18. Washington University in St. Louis: Strong pre-med program, business, and social work programs, research opportunities.

19. University of Notre Dame: Highly-regarded business, architecture, and engineering programs, as well as a strong athletic culture.

20. Georgetown University: International relations, politics, and business programs, along with a campus situated in Washington, D.C.

21. Emory University: Excellent health sciences programs, along with strong business and humanities offerings.

22. Carnegie Mellon University: Reputation for computing, engineering, art, and design programs.

23. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA): Public university with strong programs in areas such as film, business, and engineering.

24. University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley): Top-tier public university with programs like computer science, engineering, and social sciences.

25. University of Southern California (USC): Film, engineering, and business programs, interdisciplinary studies, located in Los Angeles.

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force Academy, Wesleyan

These tiers seem pretty accurate to me.

BU and Tufts are many tiers down.
Bottom of our private go there.

BU, Tufts, Wake Forest, and NYU should all be dropped. Also, Wellesley and Bowdoin should exchange tiers. But otherwise, pretty solid.

Disagree with all of this. Tufts gets the same kids as Emory.

It does not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


__________________________________

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I really don't know why people say at my private as if your anecdotal evidence, that may be a lie, matters. Emory along with Georgetown have the wealthiest applicants in the country, that's a fact. BC,Tufts do not come close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


__________________________________

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I really don't know why people say at my private as if your anecdotal evidence, that may be a lie, matters. Emory along with Georgetown have the wealthiest applicants in the country, that's a fact. BC,Tufts do not come close.

Wealthiest? Who cares?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


__________________________________

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I really don't know why people say at my private as if your anecdotal evidence, that may be a lie, matters. Emory along with Georgetown have the wealthiest applicants in the country, that's a fact. BC,Tufts do not come close.

May be a lie? Lady, Emory is seen as distinctly not fun by most kids, and the kids who go there from our private are those who aren’t in the top twenty percent of the class, but desperately want to go to a T25 so they apply and get in ED1. If that’s what your kid wants, go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is not T25

1. Harvard University: Strong liberal arts foundation, prestigious, large endowment

2. Stanford University: Integrated STEM and humanities education, entrepreneurial spirit, and a beautiful campus

3. Yale University: Known for its residential college system, Yale is strong in both liberal arts and STEM fields

4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT): Focus on STEM with a rigorous curriculum, innovation, and entrepreneurship

5. California Institute of Technology (Caltech): Prestigious STEM-focused school with student-faculty ratio of 3:1

6. Princeton University: Emphasis on undergraduate research, strong liberal arts, and engineering programs

7. University of Chicago: A rigorous academic environment known for its study of economics and interdisciplinary programs.

8. University of Pennsylvania: The Wharton School of Business, along with strong programs in nursing, engineering, and liberal arts.

9. Columbia University: Core Curriculum, strong liberal arts, and journalism programs, located in New York City.

10. Duke University: Excellent programs in public policy, biomedical engineering, and environmental sciences.

11. Johns Hopkins University: Top-notch research institution, especially in-fields like medicine, public health, and engineering.

12. Dartmouth College: Small liberal arts college with a strong emphasis on undergraduate teaching and a close-knit community.

13. Northwestern University: Great journalism, engineering, and music programs, located near Chicago.

14. Brown University: Open Curriculum allows students to tailor their education, strong pre-med and engineering programs.

15. Vanderbilt University: Known for education in the fields of medicine, education, and law, with a vibrant campus community.

16. Cornell University: Diverse range of programs including agriculture, hotel administration, and engineering.

17. Rice University: Small student body, strong engineering, and music programs, residential college system.

18. Washington University in St. Louis: Strong pre-med program, business, and social work programs, research opportunities.

19. University of Notre Dame: Highly-regarded business, architecture, and engineering programs, as well as a strong athletic culture.

20. Georgetown University: International relations, politics, and business programs, along with a campus situated in Washington, D.C.

21. Emory University: Excellent health sciences programs, along with strong business and humanities offerings.

22. Carnegie Mellon University: Reputation for computing, engineering, art, and design programs.

23. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA): Public university with strong programs in areas such as film, business, and engineering.

24. University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley): Top-tier public university with programs like computer science, engineering, and social sciences.

25. University of Southern California (USC): Film, engineering, and business programs, interdisciplinary studies, located in Los Angeles.

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force Academy, Wesleyan

Vanderbilt down 1, Cornell and Columbia up 1. I feel like your DC is at Vandy because that doesn't make sense. Drop BU, Tufts, NYU, USC, and Wake Forest.

Take out BU and it’s perfect as is. Columbia lost a lot of value with all the bad press from the protests. Made the administration look hapless and the students like a bunch of misfits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


__________________________________

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I really don't know why people say at my private as if your anecdotal evidence, that may be a lie, matters. Emory along with Georgetown have the wealthiest applicants in the country, that's a fact. BC,Tufts do not come close.

May be a lie? Lady, Emory is seen as distinctly not fun by most kids, and the kids who go there from our private are those who aren’t in the top twenty percent of the class, but desperately want to go to a T25 so they apply and get in ED1. If that’s what your kid wants, go for it.

I am curious this idea of “not fun” as once you remove big time sports, trying to understand why/how Emory is “distinctly not fun” compared to every other academic D3 school (and many academic D1 schools).

It has a fairly active Greek scene, on campus clubs/theatre, activities in Atlanta, a quick Uber to plenty of hopping parts of Atlanta, etc.

As an example, I rarely hear much about how Columbia university offers much in the way of “fun” but rather its NYC location provides the fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


__________________________________

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I really don't know why people say at my private as if your anecdotal evidence, that may be a lie, matters. Emory along with Georgetown have the wealthiest applicants in the country, that's a fact. BC,Tufts do not come close.

May be a lie? Lady, Emory is seen as distinctly not fun by most kids, and the kids who go there from our private are those who aren’t in the top twenty percent of the class, but desperately want to go to a T25 so they apply and get in ED1. If that’s what your kid wants, go for it.

It’s dismaying how many kids are pressured to compromise their college choices by committing to an ED choice like Emory (or any other college) for all the wrong reasons. That being said, I don’t think everyone at Emory applied their ED out of “desperation” to be at a T-25.

[Anonymous]

Why do you guys care so much?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is not T25

1. Harvard University: Strong liberal arts foundation, prestigious, large endowment

2. Stanford University: Integrated STEM and humanities education, entrepreneurial spirit, and a beautiful campus

3. Yale University: Known for its residential college system, Yale is strong in both liberal arts and STEM fields

4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT): Focus on STEM with a rigorous curriculum, innovation, and entrepreneurship

5. California Institute of Technology (Caltech): Prestigious STEM-focused school with student-faculty ratio of 3:1

6. Princeton University: Emphasis on undergraduate research, strong liberal arts, and engineering programs

7. University of Chicago: A rigorous academic environment known for its study of economics and interdisciplinary programs.

8. University of Pennsylvania: The Wharton School of Business, along with strong programs in nursing, engineering, and liberal arts.

9. Columbia University: Core Curriculum, strong liberal arts, and journalism programs, located in New York City.

10. Duke University: Excellent programs in public policy, biomedical engineering, and environmental sciences.

11. Johns Hopkins University: Top-notch research institution, especially in-fields like medicine, public health, and engineering.

12. Dartmouth College: Small liberal arts college with a strong emphasis on undergraduate teaching and a close-knit community.

13. Northwestern University: Great journalism, engineering, and music programs, located near Chicago.

14. Brown University: Open Curriculum allows students to tailor their education, strong pre-med and engineering programs.

15. Vanderbilt University: Known for education in the fields of medicine, education, and law, with a vibrant campus community.

16. Cornell University: Diverse range of programs including agriculture, hotel administration, and engineering.

17. Rice University: Small student body, strong engineering, and music programs, residential college system.

18. Washington University in St. Louis: Strong pre-med program, business, and social work programs, research opportunities.

19. University of Notre Dame: Highly-regarded business, architecture, and engineering programs, as well as a strong athletic culture.

20. Georgetown University: International relations, politics, and business programs, along with a campus situated in Washington, D.C.

21. Emory University: Excellent health sciences programs, along with strong business and humanities offerings.

22. Carnegie Mellon University: Reputation for computing, engineering, art, and design programs.

23. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA): Public university with strong programs in areas such as film, business, and engineering.

24. University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley): Top-tier public university with programs like computer science, engineering, and social sciences.

25. University of Southern California (USC): Film, engineering, and business programs, interdisciplinary studies, located in Los Angeles.

Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force Academy, Wesleyan

Vanderbilt down 1, Cornell and Columbia up 1. I feel like your DC is at Vandy because that doesn't make sense. Drop BU, Tufts, NYU, USC, and Wake Forest.

It's not 1980 anymore. The world is bigger than the Ivy League. I'd leave Vanderbilt where it is and add Rice to the second tier. But agree that BU, NYU, Tufts, USC, and Wake Forest should be dropped all together from this ranking. And if you're going to include them in SLACs, I'd also move West Point and Annapolis up. Wellesley down.

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Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Penn, Columbia
Private third tier: Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, USC (Southern Cal), Washington U (St. Louis), Vanderbilt, Dartmouth

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin, Virginia (UVA)
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force Academy, Wesleyan

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Anonymous wrote:The poster of this must have kids at Wake, Tufts or BU -
If you look at outcomes, kids graduating from those 3 schools are not in same league as kids from Columbia/Cornell/ND/Rice and even WashU/Emory.

Bizarre. But whatever floats your boat. Your posting this here, doesn't make the school "better".
But maybe it makes you feel better?
Tiers don't even matter unless you are defensive about your choices.
Which perhaps you are.


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Personally I split by category (Private/Public/SLAC) and then go by tiers rather than specific "ranks" which I find a bit silly, even with tiers the cutoffs can be fuzzy, but better than a literal numeric list.

Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Penn
Private third tier: Boston U, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, Tufts, USC (Southern Cal), Wake Forest, Washington U (St. Louis)

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA, Virginia (UVA)
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force

I think whomever posted this meant to include BC rather than BU. And with that change, historically all of these schools are ranked in thr 20 to 30 range for literally decades. Btw, you seem like a miserable person, Emory mom.

I’m not Emory mom?
I just know about how it works at our private.
Why do you care so much?

Because I took 10 seconds to respond to your nasty post, I care so much? Btw, I have two kids at what are considered the top privates in our city, and there is literally no difference in the kids accepted to these schools. Indeed, in the past two cycles, the BC, Wake, and Tufts kids have been more accomplished than the Emory kids because those schools are seen as both rigorous and social, and accordingly more desirable. Parchment results support this for cross admits.

I really don't know why people say at my private as if your anecdotal evidence, that may be a lie, matters. Emory along with Georgetown have the wealthiest applicants in the country, that's a fact. BC,Tufts do not come close.

May be a lie? Lady, Emory is seen as distinctly not fun by most kids, and the kids who go there from our private are those who aren’t in the top twenty percent of the class, but desperately want to go to a T25 so they apply and get in ED1. If that’s what your kid wants, go for it.

I am curious this idea of “not fun” as once you remove big time sports, trying to understand why/how Emory is “distinctly not fun” compared to every other academic D3 school (and many academic D1 schools).

It has a fairly active Greek scene, on campus clubs/theatre, activities in Atlanta, a quick Uber to plenty of hopping parts of Atlanta, etc.

As an example, I rarely hear much about how Columbia university offers much in the way of “fun” but rather its NYC location provides the fun.

Zero school spirit, partially due to no football or other spectator sports, and a good number of not particularly social kids. Emory is hardly unique in this respect but it isn’t particularly popular for this reason. Loses cross admits to USC, Tufts, Wake, NYU, Wash U, Vandy per Parchment, which is quite funny as some on this board put much weight on its US News ranking. Actual students prefer some lower ranked schools.

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Once your kid’s school’s college T-Shirt day rolls around, I’ll bet that most of the kids won’t care about who got into T-25’s, T-50’s, who got their first choice, who’s going to a safety, etc. they’ll be looking ahead to prom, graduation, etc. Come August-September, the worry will have shifted to “will be they be happy and thrive at their college”? Too bad this shift or thinking doesn’t happen a year earlier, at the beginning of senior year.

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Anonymous wrote:Private top tier: HYPSM
Private second tier: Brown, Cal Tech, Chicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Penn, Columbia
Private third tier: Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, NYU, Rice, USC (Southern Cal), Washington U (St. Louis), Vanderbilt, Dartmouth

Public top tier: Michigan (Ann Arbor), UC Berkeley, UCLA
Public second tier: Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois - Urbana Champaign, North Carolina (UNC Chapel Hill), Texas (UT Austin), UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCSB, UCSD, William & Mary, Wisconsin, Virginia (UVA)
Public third tier: Many... like 30

SLAC top tier: Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
SLAC second tier: Bowdoin, Carleton College, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Smith, US Military Academy - West Point, US Naval SLAC third tier: Barnard, Bates, Colby, Colgate, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford, Richmond, US Air Force Academy, Wesleyan

This is fairer, but I still don't hink USC and NYU belong there. And I don't see why if you're making undergrad tiers you would separate publics and LACs.
Tier 1
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford
Tier 2
Cal Tech, Chicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, Penn, Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth
Tier 3
Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Rice, Washington U (St. Louis), Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst, Berkeley
Tier 4
Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, UCLA, UMich, UVA, UNC, USC, NYU, BC, Gatech, Bowdoin, Navy, CMC, Tufts

Sorry if I missed a few.