Hairy legs in an office setting

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

I will repeat what I said yesterday and this time even more gladly. You are simply too dumb to keep responding to, my ferocious keyboard warrior.

DP. Might be time for you to step away from the computer/phone and go outside. It’s a beautiful day.

S/he has no response because all they have is venom towards other women.

lol @
“Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such.”
When s/he is continually doing that all over this thread. Some of these oldies are delulu and going to be in the receiving end of a lawsuit if they keep acting like this.

I'm starting to feel like you are secretly in love with me. Must be my pretty smooth legs.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Old partner here. And 100% this. Let’s let people be who they are when it comes to their personal decisions that affect us - not one bit.

👏👏👏

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

I will repeat what I said yesterday and this time even more gladly. You are simply too dumb to keep responding to, my ferocious keyboard warrior.

DP. Might be time for you to step away from the computer/phone and go outside. It’s a beautiful day.

S/he has no response because all they have is venom towards other women.

lol @
“Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such.”
When s/he is continually doing that all over this thread. Some of these oldies are delulu and going to be in the receiving end of a lawsuit if they keep acting like this.

I'm starting to feel like you are secretly in love with me. Must be my pretty smooth legs.

If we can’t even tell if you’re a man or woman from how misogynistic your posts are, it does track that you’d think everyone is in love with you. Delulu is as delulu does.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

I will repeat what I said yesterday and this time even more gladly. You are simply too dumb to keep responding to, my ferocious keyboard warrior.

DP. Might be time for you to step away from the computer/phone and go outside. It’s a beautiful day.

S/he has no response because all they have is venom towards other women.

lol @
“Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such.”
When s/he is continually doing that all over this thread. Some of these oldies are delulu and going to be in the receiving end of a lawsuit if they keep acting like this.

I'm starting to feel like you are secretly in love with me. Must be my pretty smooth legs.

If we can’t even tell if you’re a man or woman from how misogynistic your posts are, it does track that you’d think everyone is in love with you. Delulu is as delulu does.

Maybe you're an incel basement dweller with a fetish for hairy legs? Since we are just talking nonsense at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

I will repeat what I said yesterday and this time even more gladly. You are simply too dumb to keep responding to, my ferocious keyboard warrior.

DP. Might be time for you to step away from the computer/phone and go outside. It’s a beautiful day.

S/he has no response because all they have is venom towards other women.

lol @
“Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such.”
When s/he is continually doing that all over this thread. Some of these oldies are delulu and going to be in the receiving end of a lawsuit if they keep acting like this.

I'm starting to feel like you are secretly in love with me. Must be my pretty smooth legs.

If we can’t even tell if you’re a man or woman from how misogynistic your posts are, it does track that you’d think everyone is in love with you. Delulu is as delulu does.

Maybe you're an incel basement dweller with a fetish for hairy legs? Since we are just talking nonsense at this point.

Yes, everyone you disagree with or does things differently is automatically an incel, dumb, or can't possibly work anywhere besides mcdonalds . Youre just sooo smart.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

I will repeat what I said yesterday and this time even more gladly. You are simply too dumb to keep responding to, my ferocious keyboard warrior.

DP. Might be time for you to step away from the computer/phone and go outside. It’s a beautiful day.

S/he has no response because all they have is venom towards other women.

lol @
“Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such.”
When s/he is continually doing that all over this thread. Some of these oldies are delulu and going to be in the receiving end of a lawsuit if they keep acting like this.

I'm starting to feel like you are secretly in love with me. Must be my pretty smooth legs.

If we can’t even tell if you’re a man or woman from how misogynistic your posts are, it does track that you’d think everyone is in love with you. Delulu is as delulu does.

Maybe you're an incel basement dweller with a fetish for hairy legs? Since we are just talking nonsense at this point.

Yes, everyone you disagree with or does things differently is automatically an incel, dumb, or can't possibly work anywhere besides mcdonalds . Youre just sooo smart.

And everyone you disagree with is a horrible, no-good, misogynistic man who hates women.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Advise is fine. Still the employee's choice and endure what may.
Difference is, appropriate clothing and cleanliness is required of all employees regardless of gender. Shaving legs and pits is not. Fingernail or hair length and nail polish color are not.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

I will repeat what I said yesterday and this time even more gladly. You are simply too dumb to keep responding to, my ferocious keyboard warrior.

DP. Might be time for you to step away from the computer/phone and go outside. It’s a beautiful day.

S/he has no response because all they have is venom towards other women.

lol @
“Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such.”
When s/he is continually doing that all over this thread. Some of these oldies are delulu and going to be in the receiving end of a lawsuit if they keep acting like this.

I'm starting to feel like you are secretly in love with me. Must be my pretty smooth legs.

If we can’t even tell if you’re a man or woman from how misogynistic your posts are, it does track that you’d think everyone is in love with you. Delulu is as delulu does.

Maybe you're an incel basement dweller with a fetish for hairy legs? Since we are just talking nonsense at this point.

Yes, everyone you disagree with or does things differently is automatically an incel, dumb, or can't possibly work anywhere besides mcdonalds . Youre just sooo smart.

And everyone you disagree with is a horrible, no-good, misogynistic man who hates women.

Wow, misogynists don't like being called on their misogyny eh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

The men and women protesting against changing norms on this thread 100% want us to sit down and shut up. I'm not sure if it's jealousy or resentment because young women have much more freedom to do as they wish these days or if they really just think men should control everything and women are meek subservient mice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

The men and women protesting against changing norms on this thread 100% want us to sit down and shut up. I'm not sure if it's jealousy or resentment because young women have much more freedom to do as they wish these days or if they really just think men should control everything and women are meek subservient mice.

It's laughable at this point how neither of you is capable of reading or comprehension because the agenda in your head is so loud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?

Never, ever did I shit on a woman so stop characterizing my words as such. What I am is not delusional that some of these things still matter.

Like I said, lead the way. Be brave, support the women as you say but leading by example. Go ahead.

You’re so insecure and full of internalized misogyny that you can’t even accept young women not shaving their legs? Why do you need to control the body hair of other women? What pride does that give you?
All you’ve done on this thread is talk about how awful that would be, how no one in management/c suite does this, and when people DO say they do it, you talk down to them as well. You are not encouraging of women. You are a roadblock to be manoeuvred around so women can feel comfortable and confident in the workplace.

Instead of quipping back with whatever catty remark you’re likely to make, you should really try some internal reflection. Why are you so opposed to young women (or any women) doing something different than you? Why are you so quick to judge someone who does something different than you as lower class, dumber or less successful? If you truly want to advocate for women and women’s rights in the workplace, starting with NOT rabidly hating women who choose different leg hair removal methodologies would be a good start.

Sure, I’ll do some internal reflection when you stop pretending that it doesn’t matter whether a young woman just starting out bucks the trend in this way.

See, you are desperate to paint me as misogynistic and hateful towards other women but fail to see that my advice to lean towards a more conservative approach when it comes to dress and behavior for a young woman just starting out is absolutely advisable. Take leg hair out of equation. Would you tell a young woman that it’s totally fine to have blue hair in a professional environment? How about super tight and revealing clothing? While none of those things SHOULD matter, they absolutely DO matter. I think YOU are doing young women a huge disservice but setting them up for failure. I will always advise young women (AND MEN) to start out their careers humble, well dressed, well groomed, work their asses off and prove their worth with what they have to bring to the table. It gives me huge pride when I can mentor a young person and see them succeed.

You’re right that I called the poster yesterday dumb, because anyone so adamant that people in DC (corporate, law, trade organizations) walk around with busy legs is either lying or has never worked in any of those places. So, no they have nothing to bring to this conversation.

Why are you discounting someone who has 25 years of experience working in a highly professional environment. Aren’t you ashamed of possibly setting this young woman up for ridicule and an uncomfortable conversation. That’s HARDLY being supportive of your women and their rights.

Funny, because I’m actually the one you called dumb, multiple times, and insinuated that I couldn’t possibly be more than a McDonalds employee because I don’t shave my legs and don’t care if other women do. You were extremely hateful, and you want to say you didn’t sh*t on women? Cmon.

You say that I’m setting these women up for ridicule but you are setting them up for keeping quiet and following orders. Would you say the same thing to women who spoke out against sexual harassment or assault in the workplace? Women used to have to sit down and keep their mouths shut about that. I am insanely glad that women worked hard to change that, and that those old outdated notions of being successful in work are actually illegal now.

You are just out of touch, which would be fine if you were just posting on a message board. But knowing your bias is coming out in daily life, when interacting with young women day to day is quite disturbing. Instead of encouraging young women to be successful as themselves you want them to fit into the same box YOU had to fit into when just starting out, to conform. Instead of proving herself in work ethic and accomplishments you think she/we/managers should focus on… her leg hair.

If you believe women should shave their legs to be successful I guess that’s your internalized misogyny and you don’t wish to revisit it. But if you believe women shouldn’t succeed because they refuse to conform to an outdated notion and would stand in their way? That’s an entirely different story.

Why do you keep posting encouraging women to push back on these standards if you don’t truly believe in that? It’s disingenuous and comes off sarcastic and disparaging to the women who make different choices than you. Encouraging young people to be better, more inclusive and more understanding people is never a bad thing IMO. We all want our children to do better than we did, and I want the same for our young women entering the workforce.

The men and women protesting against changing norms on this thread 100% want us to sit down and shut up. I'm not sure if it's jealousy or resentment because young women have much more freedom to do as they wish these days or if they really just think men should control everything and women are meek subservient mice.

It's laughable at this point how neither of you is capable of reading or comprehension because the agenda in your head is so loud.

Says the person who doesn't think women should be promoted unless they shave their leg hair... Laughable indeed.

[Anonymous]

If you see all the ugly visible tattoos people have nowadays, why would a little leg hair bother you??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worked at a well known financial institution. We had an intern, she wore club attire to work. Crop tops, stomach out. Mini skirts. No belt. I actually had to pull her aside and have a conversation with her about her butt crack being exposed before a meeting. At the end of the internship she was surprised when she didn’t get an offer and other kids did.

If she’s a teen, teens usually don’t have a ton of hair yet and if it’s finer and less noticeable sure maybe she can get away with it. If she has thick black leg hair she should know better especially if the men aren’t wearing shorts to work showing theirs.

Read the UBS dress code

I notice that you didn't mention anything to the intern about hair anywhere on her body, or make up. It's pretty clear why this intern's appearance was entirely inappropriate. There is no way this compares to OP's daughter wearing proper clothing but having hair on her legs.

That was already taking a big risk and it wasn’t particularly well received. I also don’t tell people when their breath is bad and nobody wants that guy around either.

[Anonymous]

Wear dress pants.

[Anonymous]

Without having read all the back and forth in this thread, it boils down to this: SHOULD it matter that she doesn’t shave her legs? No, it shouldn’t. WILL it matter that she doesn’t shave her legs? Yes, it will. The people in her office will be Millennials, Gen Xers, and Boomers. It’s an unfortunate reality that in a traditional, professional office setting she will stand out in a negative way. Anyone arguing against this fact doesn’t know what they are talking about and certainly hasn’t set foot in a traditional office. It may not be ideal, but it is the reality. Make sure she knows this and then she can make her own choice.