NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?

Yes, and fairly easily.

Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.

My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.

You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?

I expect that the VP choice will be a White male former or current governor. I don't think it matters which one.

Generic white male governor as VP didn’t work out for Hilary. I am on board with other posters who want a daring, exciting VP pick.

Jon Stewart should run for President.

Seriously

[Anonymous]

never voting for trump!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?

Yes, and fairly easily.

Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.

My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.

You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?

I expect that the VP choice will be a White male former or current governor. I don't think it matters which one.

Generic white male governor as VP didn’t work out for Hilary. I am on board with other posters who want a daring, exciting VP pick.

To have a chance, Kamala needs a blockbuster VP. Like:

- Adam Kinzinger
- Michelle Obama
- Jon Stewart
- Dwayne Johnson (aka The Rock)
- Jonny Kim (JD Vance has a decent origin story, but Jonny’s blows it to smithereens)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:never voting for trump!

Yes, yes.

[Anonymous]

White male for VP would be too reasonable, no way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?

Yes, and fairly easily.

Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.

My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.

You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?

I expect that the VP choice will be a White male former or current governor. I don't think it matters which one.

Generic white male governor as VP didn’t work out for Hilary. I am on board with other posters who want a daring, exciting VP pick.

To have a chance, Kamala needs a blockbuster VP. Like:

- Adam Kinzinger
- Michelle Obama
- Jon Stewart
- Dwayne Johnson (aka The Rock)
- Jonny Kim (JD Vance has a decent origin story, but Jonny’s blows it to smithereens)

I think Pete Buttigeig is the most likely VP candidate in this scenario, and I think that will be strong.

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Biden drops out Sunday, endorses Kamala. Polls in two weeks show Kamala running five points worse than Biden. What then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden drops out Sunday, endorses Kamala. Polls in two weeks show Kamala running five points worse than Biden. What then?

I’m honestly wondering this too, Kamala barely won any support in the primary in 2020, Biden picked her because he promised to pick a woman of color as VP, and the only media exposure she’s had as VP has been pretty negative until a week or two ago.

I mean, y’all are free to live in fantasy land but polling shows her doing about as good as Biden nationally, and worse than Biden in swing states.

It’s one thing if she took over for him because he actually truly became incapacitated and there was no other choice—but it seems like the main concern here amongst party leaders and donors is the image Biden’s been giving off as a frail old man, and that’s so alarming and apparently (in Dem fantasy land) the main reason Trump is coming ahead in almost every poll.

Putting in someone younger, but even more unpopular aint going to fix that. I don’t see the logic here. Unless this is just a hail-Mary maneuver.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden drops out Sunday, endorses Kamala. Polls in two weeks show Kamala running five points worse than Biden. What then?

I’m honestly wondering this too, Kamala barely won any support in the primary in 2020, Biden picked her because he promised to pick a woman of color as VP, and the only media exposure she’s had as VP has been pretty negative until a week or two ago.

I mean, y’all are free to live in fantasy land but polling shows her doing about as good as Biden nationally, and worse than Biden in swing states.

It’s one thing if she took over for him because he actually truly became incapacitated and there was no other choice—but it seems like the main concern here amongst party leaders and donors is the image Biden’s been giving off as a frail old man, and that’s so alarming and apparently (in Dem fantasy land) the main reason Trump is coming ahead in almost every poll.

Putting in someone younger, but even more unpopular aint going to fix that. I don’t see the logic here. Unless this is just a hail-Mary maneuver.

It’s also about building for the future. Even if they lose this election, putting up a younger candidate signals that Democrats aren’t beholden to a geriatric power structure. GenZ and Millennials have been pissed off at the Biden coronation (as well as the Trump coronation). Ditching Biden would at least be a step towards rectifying that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?

Yes, and fairly easily.

Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.

My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.

You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?

I expect that the VP choice will be a White male former or current governor. I don't think it matters which one.

Generic white male governor as VP didn’t work out for Hilary. I am on board with other posters who want a daring, exciting VP pick.

To have a chance, Kamala needs a blockbuster VP. Like:

- Adam Kinzinger
- Michelle Obama
- Jon Stewart
- Dwayne Johnson (aka The Rock)
- Jonny Kim (JD Vance has a decent origin story, but Jonny’s blows it to smithereens)

I think Pete Buttigeig is the most likely VP candidate in this scenario, and I think that will be strong.

I would love that pairing.
- a Republican

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden drops out Sunday, endorses Kamala. Polls in two weeks show Kamala running five points worse than Biden. What then?

Seems like the strongest contenders like Whitmer are already there. Regrouping for 2028.

[Anonymous]

My dream VP pick is Buttigieg but an all female ticket with Whitmer would be historic and such a contrast to Trump/Vance.

[Anonymous]

Just stick with Joe. There will be too much anger and frustration if he is not the nominee. Stakes are too high to change course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dream VP pick is Buttigieg but an all female ticket with Whitmer would be historic and such a contrast to Trump/Vance.

The Hill

California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer have communicated to senior party leaders that they would not be interested in serving as Harris’s running mate, according to a person familiar with the candidates in the mix to join Harris atop the ticket.

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Whitmer wants the presidency. She won’t take back seat to Kamala for 8 years.