Louisiana orders every classroom to display Ten Commandments

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Anonymous wrote:This should be interesting, this might stop school shootings. One thing we are missing is starting the day with the lord prayer. My friend post picture on Facebook saying, NO school that prayer before the start of the school day and has the ten commandment had a school shooting. So if this what we have to do to stop this is a good idea.

There was a school shooting just last year in a religious school.

Remind your friend of the various church shootings as well. All that prayer and all those commandments did nothing to stop those church shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:It's dumb, performative crap for the Christian right who constantly need their heads patted and to be told they are important and special. Kids don't care and won't read the poster unless it's massive or the teacher forces reciting.

The most likely outcome is it will end up being allowed by the current SCOTUS (probably overturning some settled case law on some novel understanding of history) and other religions will be allowed to have posters but won't actually be able to.

Louisiana will continue to be a poor, ignorant state with bottom 10% stats in every QoL metric.

What religion are you, pp? Does your religion teach you to call your fellow man poor and ignorant? Does your religion teach you to disparage poor people or uneducated people? Does your religion teach you to help poor and uneducated people?

Are you able to stay on topic? Can you build a coherent argument based in reality and fact? I'm beginning to believe conservative and religious beliefs really are just a symptom of the weak-minded.

Yes.

The red states stay poor and undereducated by design. I don’t see having religious beliefs in opposition to being educated and believing that science is real but these dreadful “Christians” do. I believe in God and consider myself a cultural member of the religion in which I grew up, but I believe in the separation of church and state. This is abominable.

You missed the part where you should not judge other people. You are judging a bunch of people you don’t even know as dreadful. That’s close minded and wrong. You don’t know anyone is dreadful until you get to know them on a personal level.

So far: Louisiana is a poor, ignorant state.
Other Christians (the ones who don’t think like meeeeeee) are dreadful.

What a bunch of sweethearts posting here. Real role models for children.

Don't pretend you have any moral high ground here whatsoever.

Whatever "religion" it is that you and your Louisiana Republicans are certainly teaches them to disparage the poor, to disparage anyone who disagrees with them, to disrespect their religion if they are not Christian, to disrespect them if they are atheist, to disparage them if they come from another land, it teaches them to be greedy, selfish, and short-sighted. It teaches them to NOT follow Christ's teachings about feeding the poor, tending to the sick, the elderly and the infirm, offering refuge and shelter to those who need it.

If you don't understand that or recognize that about today's GOP, then you'd better take some time to step back and do some deep soul searching because you are completely blind.

Christianity doesn’t teach people to disparage the poor or uneducated. It doesn’t teach Christians to be greedy or to hate people who are different than they are. Christianity doesn’t teach people to be short sighted or disrespectful. That’s ridiculous. You are making up so many things that are really rude and terrible about Christianity, it’s hard to take you seriously.

Christianity doesn’t teach those things, the right wingers have perverted Christianity to teach those things. Prosperity gospel says if you’re poor, that’s God’s punishment for you sucking. Bootstraps! “*uck your feelings!”

Those who are Republican and “Christian” are the exact type of worshipper Jesus talked against. You guys are the opposite in every way of what Jesus wanted us to do. You may claim his mantle, but you are wrong in all regards. You see the least among us and you knock them down, kick them in the stomach and rub dirt in their eyes.

And all that is apart from the fact that we are supposed to have religious freedom in this country because our founders knew what established religion does. You… do not. You’re happy for fascism to show up and establish a state religion, knock women back to the dark ages and thump your chest. The commandments are a religious artifact and have no business in a school outside of class that discusses them in a literature or cultural way.

There are millions of Christians in the United States who do not vote for republicans and are not conservative. You are ranting and unhinged. This thread is about a law that La passed, not about attacking Christians. I never fail to hear hateful, intolerant comments from people who call Christians hateful and intolerant.

You have a problem with Christianity, and I don’t care if you do. You don’t have to like Christianity or Christians. But you have no right to tell people how they live their life or practice their religion. You are obsessed with judging people you have never met a single time in your life and judging them evil.

You're confused. The overwhelming majority of Christians who don't vote Republican typically ARE NOT the ones foisting the Bible and Ten Commandments on public schools and other places where they don't belong. It's the conservative Christians who DO vote Republican who are pushing this stuff.

The majority of the minority? That's some pretzel logic right there.

Huh? What majority of minority? Nobody said that, and even if they did what's your argument against the premise here? You're still confused.

Most Americans who identify as Christian don't think we need things like the Ten Commandments in schools. It's only the ones who identify as conservative Christians that do. And most Americans who identify as conservative Christian vote Republican. Those are simple, straight-forward statements. If they confuse you then all I have for you is a smile and letting you know your lingering confusion is entirely a "you" problem.

The majority of Christians vote republican. That is well established.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/30/most-white-americans-who-regularly-attend-worship-services-voted-for-trump-in-2020/

So you are saying "The overwhelming majority of Christians who don't vote Republican typically" (i.e. the minority of Christians) "ARE NOT the ones foisting the Bible and Ten Commandments on public schools and other places where they don't belong. "

That's the pretzel logic.

The poll says 40% of Christians do not vote Republican. And of the 59% who do vote Republican I doubt most of them are chomping at the bit for having the Ten Commandments in public schools. I try to give Republicans and Christians more credit than assuming they are that dumb. Not all that pretzely as far as I'm concerned.

To refer to "the majority of christians who do not vote republican" is misleading because it is the minority of republicans.

LMAO. The Christians who do not vote Republican are not "a minority of Republicans." They ARE NOT REPUBLICANS AT ALL. Were you the one complaining about "pretzel logic" when you fail at even the most basic logic?

And again, it's not the non-Republican Christians who are the problem people trying to shove religion into schools and government.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

Don’t be dumb. “I am the Lord thy God, you shall have no other gods before me” is a religious teaching.

Nobody is making anyone believe in God. Tell your kids God doesn’t exist and ignore the 10 Commandments. Easy.

The 10 Commandments insist there is one and only one God. Not appropriate for teaching in a public school.

Exactly. That’s spreading false information and teaching children to believe in lies.

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yes. There is. I don't want my kids to be shamed into behavior based on a stupid book written a couple thousand years ago by a bunch of drunk guys.

Which specific commandments do you think people shouldn’t be “shamed” for? The Ten Commandments are a set of religious and ethical directives that God gave to Moses, according to the Bible. Scholars disagree about when the Ten Commandments were written and by whom, so apparently you know more than they do because you know “a bunch of drunk guys” wrote them. Do you have a cite for that? Please share.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You have quoted 3 of the 10 that are considered by most to be moral standards to keep.

However, 5 of the 10 (1, 2, 3, 4, 10) are not universally considered to be moral standards. But you want to push all of the commandments, including the ones that are strictly Christian on everyone.

I have no problem if you want to cut out commandments 5-9 and post them as general rules of morality. But no, you don't get to post the entire list of 10 commandments in a public school that essentially allows you to make the public school a Christian-based institution. You are welcome to do this if you want to do a comparative religion exercise and show examples of other doctrines of morality from other religions.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

Maybe start with "practice what you preach" - y'all are worshipping false idols, literally a golden calf.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.

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27% of the population in Louisiana can’t read. How will these pointless posters help them?

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Anonymous wrote:If you have written in support of this utter garbage on this forum please leave the US.

You are UnAmerican to the core and have no business living in a country that allows religious freedoms.

Please pack your bags. Our military does not need to die for your stupidity.

You guys better pack and leave. pp is series. you don’t want to disobey a rando anon on dcum making declarations about who can live in America and who has to leave. I am series guys.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting - 14 pages of exactly WHY we have an Establishment Clause.

Louisiana seems to think they have a SC that will work around it.
This isn’t good.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

Maybe start with "practice what you preach" - y'all are worshipping false idols, literally a golden calf.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.

damn DJT got swag

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

Maybe start with "practice what you preach" - y'all are worshipping false idols, literally a golden calf.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.

HAHAHAAA that is so creepy. Eyes closed and heads bowed in worship and prayer to a golden cow. LOL. Religion is the high of the people.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

Maybe start with "practice what you preach" - y'all are worshipping false idols, literally a golden calf.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.

HAHAHAAA that is so creepy. Eyes closed and heads bowed in worship and prayer to a golden cow. LOL. Religion is the high of the people.

“Religion is the high of the people” that’s so true.

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Do the Louisiana lawmakers want this in their schools because the Christians there clearly aren’t teaching these things at home, and have stopped going to church and supporting the church via tithes? This looks like desperation to me.

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Anonymous wrote:It's dumb, performative crap for the Christian right who constantly need their heads patted and to be told they are important and special. Kids don't care and won't read the poster unless it's massive or the teacher forces reciting.

The most likely outcome is it will end up being allowed by the current SCOTUS (probably overturning some settled case law on some novel understanding of history) and other religions will be allowed to have posters but won't actually be able to.

Louisiana will continue to be a poor, ignorant state with bottom 10% stats in every QoL metric.

What religion are you, pp? Does your religion teach you to call your fellow man poor and ignorant? Does your religion teach you to disparage poor people or uneducated people? Does your religion teach you to help poor and uneducated people?

Are you able to stay on topic? Can you build a coherent argument based in reality and fact? I'm beginning to believe conservative and religious beliefs really are just a symptom of the weak-minded.

Yes.

The red states stay poor and undereducated by design. I don’t see having religious beliefs in opposition to being educated and believing that science is real but these dreadful “Christians” do. I believe in God and consider myself a cultural member of the religion in which I grew up, but I believe in the separation of church and state. This is abominable.

You missed the part where you should not judge other people. You are judging a bunch of people you don’t even know as dreadful. That’s close minded and wrong. You don’t know anyone is dreadful until you get to know them on a personal level.

So far: Louisiana is a poor, ignorant state.
Other Christians (the ones who don’t think like meeeeeee) are dreadful.

What a bunch of sweethearts posting here. Real role models for children.

Don't pretend you have any moral high ground here whatsoever.

Whatever "religion" it is that you and your Louisiana Republicans are certainly teaches them to disparage the poor, to disparage anyone who disagrees with them, to disrespect their religion if they are not Christian, to disrespect them if they are atheist, to disparage them if they come from another land, it teaches them to be greedy, selfish, and short-sighted. It teaches them to NOT follow Christ's teachings about feeding the poor, tending to the sick, the elderly and the infirm, offering refuge and shelter to those who need it.

If you don't understand that or recognize that about today's GOP, then you'd better take some time to step back and do some deep soul searching because you are completely blind.

Christianity doesn’t teach people to disparage the poor or uneducated. It doesn’t teach Christians to be greedy or to hate people who are different than they are. Christianity doesn’t teach people to be short sighted or disrespectful. That’s ridiculous. You are making up so many things that are really rude and terrible about Christianity, it’s hard to take you seriously.

Christianity doesn’t teach those things, the right wingers have perverted Christianity to teach those things. Prosperity gospel says if you’re poor, that’s God’s punishment for you sucking. Bootstraps! “*uck your feelings!”

Those who are Republican and “Christian” are the exact type of worshipper Jesus talked against. You guys are the opposite in every way of what Jesus wanted us to do. You may claim his mantle, but you are wrong in all regards. You see the least among us and you knock them down, kick them in the stomach and rub dirt in their eyes.

And all that is apart from the fact that we are supposed to have religious freedom in this country because our founders knew what established religion does. You… do not. You’re happy for fascism to show up and establish a state religion, knock women back to the dark ages and thump your chest. The commandments are a religious artifact and have no business in a school outside of class that discusses them in a literature or cultural way.

There are millions of Christians in the United States who do not vote for republicans and are not conservative. You are ranting and unhinged. This thread is about a law that La passed, not about attacking Christians. I never fail to hear hateful, intolerant comments from people who call Christians hateful and intolerant.

You have a problem with Christianity, and I don’t care if you do. You don’t have to like Christianity or Christians. But you have no right to tell people how they live their life or practice their religion. You are obsessed with judging people you have never met a single time in your life and judging them evil.

You're confused. The overwhelming majority of Christians who don't vote Republican typically ARE NOT the ones foisting the Bible and Ten Commandments on public schools and other places where they don't belong. It's the conservative Christians who DO vote Republican who are pushing this stuff.

The majority of the minority? That's some pretzel logic right there.

Huh? What majority of minority? Nobody said that, and even if they did what's your argument against the premise here? You're still confused.

Most Americans who identify as Christian don't think we need things like the Ten Commandments in schools. It's only the ones who identify as conservative Christians that do. And most Americans who identify as conservative Christian vote Republican. Those are simple, straight-forward statements. If they confuse you then all I have for you is a smile and letting you know your lingering confusion is entirely a "you" problem.

The majority of Christians vote republican. That is well established.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/30/most-white-americans-who-regularly-attend-worship-services-voted-for-trump-in-2020/

So you are saying "The overwhelming majority of Christians who don't vote Republican typically" (i.e. the minority of Christians) "ARE NOT the ones foisting the Bible and Ten Commandments on public schools and other places where they don't belong. "

That's the pretzel logic.

The poll says 40% of Christians do not vote Republican. And of the 59% who do vote Republican I doubt most of them are chomping at the bit for having the Ten Commandments in public schools. I try to give Republicans and Christians more credit than assuming they are that dumb. Not all that pretzely as far as I'm concerned.

To refer to "the majority of christians who do not vote republican" is misleading because it is the minority of republicans.

LMAO. The Christians who do not vote Republican are not "a minority of Republicans." They ARE NOT REPUBLICANS AT ALL. Were you the one complaining about "pretzel logic" when you fail at even the most basic logic?

And again, it's not the non-Republican Christians who are the problem people trying to shove religion into schools and government.

Per the Pew poll, 40% of Americans who identify as Christian voted Democrat. At least some of them got it right. Democrats go a lot farther where it comes to helping the sick, the poor, the needy, the elderly, and so on rather than spitting on them and screwing them over the way Republicans do. Republican Christians on the other hand care far more about things that Christ didn't - like being anti-LGBTQ and so on. Yet even Christ went out of his way to embrace the outcasts, the sinners, the least of us, unlike Republicans who look down on them. And let's not forget about the Republican greed - rather than "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven," calling taxes "theft" rather than "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" and so on. It's almost as if the Republican Christian's Bibles contain absolutely none of the teachings of Christ whatsoever and all that's left is the vengeful, spiteful and hateful sections of the Old Testament.

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What do the non-Christian Republicans have to say about this?

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

Maybe start with "practice what you preach" - y'all are worshipping false idols, literally a golden calf.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.

Yikes - Paula White. Went to HS with her.