SYC coaches to Arlington

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Game is trending bigger. People make same complaints in UK, all clubs looking for the next Jude Bellingham and missing on Vitinha.

Folks are being a bit petty here. Some of SYC's best players leave for academies, which is one reason they don't have the same level of success at older ages (same as Bethesda).

What the club has accomplished in the last couple of weeks is to be commended. They represented the DMV soccer community extremely well. I have no affiliation with SYC.

Yes, I agree that SYC should be commended and they represented the DMV. However, to the original question in this post, what if these fast maturing and talents kids were actually developed under Arlington, Achilles or Bethesda?

We would be considered a tier 2 hot spot right under TX, SoCal, Philly/NJ and FL and actually producing USMNT players and European academy prospects. Instead, SYC sends a few to DCU and their dreams die and end with a D1 spot for a kid talented enough to play in the Champions League.

I know a kid who is way better than my son right now who just went to SYC and I now know how my kid will surpass him over the next 3-4 years when this stuff really starts to matter. That is how bad their development is IN COMPARISON to Arlington, Achilles and Bethesda.

so bitter at losing your star player

No star player is ever, ever leaving another local MLSNext club to go to SYC. If they are, they were never a star player. A good player, a starter even. But not a star player. Star players on MLSNext teams are only leaving to go to an MLS academy team.

That is not true. SYC 2010 had several new players the last few years, stayed 1 year and went to DCUA. There's another thread on this topic about SYC giving more support to the new players and overlooking their long time loyal players and not giving them the same opportunity. The point was why these 1st year players didn't get picked up from clubs they came from like Arlington, Alexandria, Paragon to name a few when they were there and after 1 year, they went onto DCUA. Don't say SYC developed them in 12 month but couldn't for their long time players, and don't say those are much better than the long players.

They weren’t star players on the teams they left. I didn’t say they didn’t have potential. SYC would be the best environment for certain kinds of players to shine in a way that they may not in another club. I mean if I were being cynical, they prob stood out because they had the technical and tactical development and skill that stood out at SYC but not at other clubs.

There’s only room for a few star players on a team. Just because a player is not yet one, doesn’t mean they can’t become one at their current club or at another one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Game is trending bigger. People make same complaints in UK, all clubs looking for the next Jude Bellingham and missing on Vitinha.

Folks are being a bit petty here. Some of SYC's best players leave for academies, which is one reason they don't have the same level of success at older ages (same as Bethesda).

What the club has accomplished in the last couple of weeks is to be commended. They represented the DMV soccer community extremely well. I have no affiliation with SYC.

Yes, I agree that SYC should be commended and they represented the DMV. However, to the original question in this post, what if these fast maturing and talents kids were actually developed under Arlington, Achilles or Bethesda?

We would be considered a tier 2 hot spot right under TX, SoCal, Philly/NJ and FL and actually producing USMNT players and European academy prospects. Instead, SYC sends a few to DCU and their dreams die and end with a D1 spot for a kid talented enough to play in the Champions League.

I know a kid who is way better than my son right now who just went to SYC and I now know how my kid will surpass him over the next 3-4 years when this stuff really starts to matter. That is how bad their development is IN COMPARISON to Arlington, Achilles and Bethesda.

so bitter at losing your star player

No star player is ever, ever leaving another local MLSNext club to go to SYC. If they are, they were never a star player. A good player, a starter even. But not a star player. Star players on MLSNext teams are only leaving to go to an MLS academy team.

That is not true. SYC 2010 had several new players the last few years, stayed 1 year and went to DCUA. There's another thread on this topic about SYC giving more support to the new players and overlooking their long time loyal players and not giving them the same opportunity. The point was why these 1st year players didn't get picked up from clubs they came from like Arlington, Alexandria, Paragon to name a few when they were there and after 1 year, they went onto DCUA. Don't say SYC developed them in 12 month but couldn't for their long time players, and don't say those are much better than the long players.

Going to DCU is not an achievement right now. That is probably why the academy is struggling because they have this SYC philosophy of the biggest and strongest but the kids eventually get passed around when everybody is developed and the ball mastery foundations show just how well a kid was "developed" from the ages of 8-14.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Game is trending bigger. People make same complaints in UK, all clubs looking for the next Jude Bellingham and missing on Vitinha.

Folks are being a bit petty here. Some of SYC's best players leave for academies, which is one reason they don't have the same level of success at older ages (same as Bethesda).

What the club has accomplished in the last couple of weeks is to be commended. They represented the DMV soccer community extremely well. I have no affiliation with SYC.

Yes, I agree that SYC should be commended and they represented the DMV. However, to the original question in this post, what if these fast maturing and talents kids were actually developed under Arlington, Achilles or Bethesda?

We would be considered a tier 2 hot spot right under TX, SoCal, Philly/NJ and FL and actually producing USMNT players and European academy prospects. Instead, SYC sends a few to DCU and their dreams die and end with a D1 spot for a kid talented enough to play in the Champions League.

I know a kid who is way better than my son right now who just went to SYC and I now know how my kid will surpass him over the next 3-4 years when this stuff really starts to matter. That is how bad their development is IN COMPARISON to Arlington, Achilles and Bethesda.

so bitter at losing your star player

No star player is ever, ever leaving another local MLSNext club to go to SYC. If they are, they were never a star player. A good player, a starter even. But not a star player. Star players on MLSNext teams are only leaving to go to an MLS academy team.

That is not true. SYC 2010 had several new players the last few years, stayed 1 year and went to DCUA. There's another thread on this topic about SYC giving more support to the new players and overlooking their long time loyal players and not giving them the same opportunity. The point was why these 1st year players didn't get picked up from clubs they came from like Arlington, Alexandria, Paragon to name a few when they were there and after 1 year, they went onto DCUA. Don't say SYC developed them in 12 month but couldn't for their long time players, and don't say those are much better than the long players.

Going to DCU is not an achievement right now. That is probably why the academy is struggling because they have this SYC philosophy of the biggest and strongest but the kids eventually get passed around when everybody is developed and the ball mastery foundations show just how well a kid was "developed" from the ages of 8-14.

Going to DCU doesn’t mean you are likely to be on USMNT but by god, it ABSOLUTELY is an achievement. Give me a break. It’s like saying playing soccer at XYZ D1 school isn’t an achievement because they aren’t as competitive. It’s still a bloody achievement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Game is trending bigger. People make same complaints in UK, all clubs looking for the next Jude Bellingham and missing on Vitinha.

Folks are being a bit petty here. Some of SYC's best players leave for academies, which is one reason they don't have the same level of success at older ages (same as Bethesda).

What the club has accomplished in the last couple of weeks is to be commended. They represented the DMV soccer community extremely well. I have no affiliation with SYC.

Yes, I agree that SYC should be commended and they represented the DMV. However, to the original question in this post, what if these fast maturing and talents kids were actually developed under Arlington, Achilles or Bethesda?

We would be considered a tier 2 hot spot right under TX, SoCal, Philly/NJ and FL and actually producing USMNT players and European academy prospects. Instead, SYC sends a few to DCU and their dreams die and end with a D1 spot for a kid talented enough to play in the Champions League.

I know a kid who is way better than my son right now who just went to SYC and I now know how my kid will surpass him over the next 3-4 years when this stuff really starts to matter. That is how bad their development is IN COMPARISON to Arlington, Achilles and Bethesda.

so bitter at losing your star player

No star player is ever, ever leaving another local MLSNext club to go to SYC. If they are, they were never a star player. A good player, a starter even. But not a star player. Star players on MLSNext teams are only leaving to go to an MLS academy team.

That is not true. SYC 2010 had several new players the last few years, stayed 1 year and went to DCUA. There's another thread on this topic about SYC giving more support to the new players and overlooking their long time loyal players and not giving them the same opportunity. The point was why these 1st year players didn't get picked up from clubs they came from like Arlington, Alexandria, Paragon to name a few when they were there and after 1 year, they went onto DCUA. Don't say SYC developed them in 12 month but couldn't for their long time players, and don't say those are much better than the long players.

Going to DCU is not an achievement right now. That is probably why the academy is struggling because they have this SYC philosophy of the biggest and strongest but the kids eventually get passed around when everybody is developed and the ball mastery foundations show just how well a kid was "developed" from the ages of 8-14.

Going to DCU doesn’t mean you are likely to be on USMNT but by god, it ABSOLUTELY is an achievement. Give me a break. It’s like saying playing soccer at XYZ D1 school isn’t an achievement because they aren’t as competitive. It’s still a bloody achievement.

Sure, it is an accomplishment for the DCUMer. It is not an accomplishment to “brag” about based on this conversation.

DCUA is designed to develop professionals. While only a small portion in any academy across the world make it, DCUA fails at an alarming rate in comparison to its peers.

Boasting about DCUA is like a Vanderbilt grad boasting in front of a group of Ivy and MIT alumni. Great accomplishment but not really a brag here.

For the “investment” most DCUMers are making in their kids, DCUA is not a brag and SYC using it as a brag shows you everything you need to know about their program.

SYC fails to produce players worthy of academies outside of DCUA while Arlington, Achilles and Bethesda continue to send players overseas and to other MLS academies.

[Anonymous]

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SYC fails to produce players worthy of academies outside of DCUA while Arlington, Achilles and Bethesda continue to send players overseas and to other MLS academies.

Meh, SYC has sent players to outside academies. Top academy teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Game is trending bigger. People make same complaints in UK, all clubs looking for the next Jude Bellingham and missing on Vitinha.

Folks are being a bit petty here. Some of SYC's best players leave for academies, which is one reason they don't have the same level of success at older ages (same as Bethesda).

What the club has accomplished in the last couple of weeks is to be commended. They represented the DMV soccer community extremely well. I have no affiliation with SYC.

+1

Folks are being petty. Also, my DD has been on two teams with fantastic players who are tiny. -High work rate, great game IQ, fearless players & great skill level. The only problem is, they can't win the ball. They are boxed out, can't out run or out muscle the bigger players with less skill. They are great when we play lower ranked teams, but they essentially disappear when we play tougher teams. They are completely ineffective at the higher level.

Coaches know this is a harsh reality of competitive team sports. Any coach around here will play the physically stronger kids all day, every day if given the chance. People on this board have a point winning does not equate to development, but if you're not trying to win, you're kinda missing the over arching point of playing sports.

Maybe on the women’s side. Certainly not on the men’s.

[Anonymous]

Spain and Argentina would have a fighting chance if they just played bigger players. Some day they might catch up with the United States, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spain and Argentina would have a fighting chance if they just played bigger players. Some day they might catch up with the United States, right?

Portugal too. Not to mention the most famous and effective US male player is average height and weight. At best.

[Anonymous]

Spain does have big players now so maybe you are on to something

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Game is trending bigger. People make same complaints in UK, all clubs looking for the next Jude Bellingham and missing on Vitinha.

Folks are being a bit petty here. Some of SYC's best players leave for academies, which is one reason they don't have the same level of success at older ages (same as Bethesda).

What the club has accomplished in the last couple of weeks is to be commended. They represented the DMV soccer community extremely well. I have no affiliation with SYC.

+1

Folks are being petty. Also, my DD has been on two teams with fantastic players who are tiny. -High work rate, great game IQ, fearless players & great skill level. The only problem is, they can't win the ball. They are boxed out, can't out run or out muscle the bigger players with less skill. They are great when we play lower ranked teams, but they essentially disappear when we play tougher teams. They are completely ineffective at the higher level.

Coaches know this is a harsh reality of competitive team sports. Any coach around here will play the physically stronger kids all day, every day if given the chance. People on this board have a point winning does not equate to development, but if you're not trying to win, you're kinda missing the over arching point of playing sports.

The US youth girls and women soccer has an extremely slow speed of play. This allows big fast player to make contact while the offensive player still has the ball. Go watch the US girl and women national team play Spain. These will be the best America has to offer. The US player try to muscle up on the Spanish player. By the time the US player gets to the Spanish player the ball is two passes away and the US team is running towards their goal.

There is a place for big strong fast player with sub par technical skills but they are roll players.

Do not think what you see in US youth soccer(specially on the girls and women side) is high level soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spain and Argentina would have a fighting chance if they just played bigger players. Some day they might catch up with the United States, right?

Catch up?

LoL Spain is current World Cup champs and usa had to use gifts as pk’s from the ref to beat them in their last encounter. Put the booze down. USA is no longer any contender for soccer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spain and Argentina would have a fighting chance if they just played bigger players. Some day they might catch up with the United States, right?

Catch up?

LoL Spain is current World Cup champs and usa had to use gifts as pk’s from the ref to beat them in their last encounter. Put the booze down. USA is no longer any contender for soccer

I think you missed the PP’s sarcasm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spain and Argentina would have a fighting chance if they just played bigger players. Some day they might catch up with the United States, right?

Catch up?

LoL Spain is current World Cup champs and usa had to use gifts as pk’s from the ref to beat them in their last encounter. Put the booze down. USA is no longer any contender for soccer

I think you missed the PP’s sarcasm

Was definitely being sarcastic and referring to the men. Different level completely. Spain plays smart and technical. And yet we still think we need more NFL type players. Don't think we will ever learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point Arlington is at a desperation point, they hired JR HG AP EA JW because their current coaches like JJ CD and HA were not cutting it.

Thats a sign of insecurity and panic. They hired new coaches to win games not develop players. Wouldnt be surprised if Arlington starts to decline from this point on. Beginning of the end.

Yeah mad panic over at Arlington with all the D1 commits on their U-18 team. They must also be truly insecure to have finished top 16 in the country for ECNL for a set of boys developed at the club.

Oh--and lets not forget the massive insecurity they must feel that 5 of their younger players were just given Academy offers out of state. What a terrible state of affairs over at Arlington. Truly insufferable.

I think Arlington is doing just fine without your fake news.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At this point Arlington is at a desperation point, they hired JR HG AP EA JW because their current coaches like JJ CD and HA were not cutting it.

Thats a sign of insecurity and panic. They hired new coaches to win games not develop players. Wouldnt be surprised if Arlington starts to decline from this point on. Beginning of the end.

Yeah mad panic over at Arlington with all the D1 commits on their U-18 team. They must also be truly insecure to have finished top 16 in the country for ECNL for a set of boys developed at the club.

Oh--and lets not forget the massive insecurity they must feel that 5 of their younger players were just given Academy offers out of state. What a terrible state of affairs over at Arlington. Truly insufferable.

I think Arlington is doing just fine without your fake news.

Where are the five going? What age groups?