Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

Anonymous
Most will agree the tippy top is Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, Stanford.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.
Anonymous
My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
Anonymous
There's also nuances to this. I'm not impressed by an engineering major from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth.

It's like getting a Master's in Education at any of these schools and calling yourself an ivy grad. It's dilution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.

Rice is not that well known. Hopkins is great for premed and math...and that's about the whole list. No, the top 3 lacs don't suck at STEM, they create a significant amount of top researchers and produce PHDs in the hard sciences and math. The engineering obsession has decayed your brain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.

Rice is not that well known. Hopkins is great for premed and math...and that's about the whole list. No, the top 3 lacs don't suck at STEM, they create a significant amount of top researchers and produce PHDs in the hard sciences and math. The engineering obsession has decayed your brain.


You sound angry with little maturity as an LAC graduate. It's ok, Swarthmore, Williams not being known nationally compared to Hopkins and Rice isn't the end of the world. The fact that the LAC majors have to go to grad school at places like Hopkins and Rice along with other actual research universities to gain legitimacy just owned your own argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.

Rice is not that well known. Hopkins is great for premed and math...and that's about the whole list. No, the top 3 lacs don't suck at STEM, they create a significant amount of top researchers and produce PHDs in the hard sciences and math. The engineering obsession has decayed your brain.


You sound angry with little maturity as an LAC graduate. It's ok, Swarthmore, Williams not being known nationally compared to Hopkins and Rice isn't the end of the world. The fact that the LAC majors have to go to grad school at places like Hopkins and Rice along with other actual research universities to gain legitimacy just owned your own argument.

You sound angry lol. I'm from Texas myself, and rice is rah-rah everything there. Telling a west coast or really a northeast person that you went to rice will produce a blank stare. The network stays in Texas for the most part, and they have a great niche...in STEM. I never attended an LAC, Princeton was too flattering, but anyone who has attended an ivy understands that LACs really aren't to be undermined experiences. I don't think any of the top lacs send more than a few per decade to rice or hopkins, but you know where the students are going? The other institutions on this list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.

Rice is not that well known. Hopkins is great for premed and math...and that's about the whole list. No, the top 3 lacs don't suck at STEM, they create a significant amount of top researchers and produce PHDs in the hard sciences and math. The engineering obsession has decayed your brain.


You sound angry with little maturity as an LAC graduate. It's ok, Swarthmore, Williams not being known nationally compared to Hopkins and Rice isn't the end of the world. The fact that the LAC majors have to go to grad school at places like Hopkins and Rice along with other actual research universities to gain legitimacy just owned your own argument.

You sound angry lol. I'm from Texas myself, and rice is rah-rah everything there. Telling a west coast or really a northeast person that you went to rice will produce a blank stare. The network stays in Texas for the most part, and they have a great niche...in STEM. I never attended an LAC, Princeton was too flattering, but anyone who has attended an ivy understands that LACs really aren't to be undermined experiences. I don't think any of the top lacs send more than a few per decade to rice or hopkins, but you know where the students are going? The other institutions on this list.


Rice literally has a DI program and plays many schools nationally. I'm in California, and it is well known.

Nice try saying you went to Princeton. Almost as believable as LACs sending only a few decade to Rice or Hopkins:

https://today.williams.edu/announcements/3_25_2021_nsf_grad_fellows/

"University of Colorado at Boulder; John Graf ’21, a mathematics major from Boulder, Colo.; Robin Huang ’21, an economics and mathematics major from Cranbury, N.J.; Peter Lugthart ’18, who studies economics at Northwestern University; Sophia Robert ’18, who studies cognitive neuroscience at Carnegie-Mellon University; Paige Knowles Robichaud ’21, a physics major from Austin, Texas; Emily Stump ’18, who studies quantum information science at Cornell University; Kaleb Yitong Tseo ’17, who studies bioinformatics and other informatics; and Austin Hoang-Nam Vo ’18, who studies sociology at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill"

Wow such impressive places like UNC, Colorado, Northwestern, CMU. Much better than Hopkins and Rice. lolz.

Keep in mind, these are the top Williams grad school applicants.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.

Rice is not that well known. Hopkins is great for premed and math...and that's about the whole list. No, the top 3 lacs don't suck at STEM, they create a significant amount of top researchers and produce PHDs in the hard sciences and math. The engineering obsession has decayed your brain.


You sound angry with little maturity as an LAC graduate. It's ok, Swarthmore, Williams not being known nationally compared to Hopkins and Rice isn't the end of the world. The fact that the LAC majors have to go to grad school at places like Hopkins and Rice along with other actual research universities to gain legitimacy just owned your own argument.

You sound angry lol. I'm from Texas myself, and rice is rah-rah everything there. Telling a west coast or really a northeast person that you went to rice will produce a blank stare. The network stays in Texas for the most part, and they have a great niche...in STEM. I never attended an LAC, Princeton was too flattering, but anyone who has attended an ivy understands that LACs really aren't to be undermined experiences. I don't think any of the top lacs send more than a few per decade to rice or hopkins, but you know where the students are going? The other institutions on this list.


Rice literally has a DI program and plays many schools nationally. I'm in California, and it is well known.

Nice try saying you went to Princeton. Almost as believable as LACs sending only a few decade to Rice or Hopkins:

https://today.williams.edu/announcements/3_25_2021_nsf_grad_fellows/

"University of Colorado at Boulder; John Graf ’21, a mathematics major from Boulder, Colo.; Robin Huang ’21, an economics and mathematics major from Cranbury, N.J.; Peter Lugthart ’18, who studies economics at Northwestern University; Sophia Robert ’18, who studies cognitive neuroscience at Carnegie-Mellon University; Paige Knowles Robichaud ’21, a physics major from Austin, Texas; Emily Stump ’18, who studies quantum information science at Cornell University; Kaleb Yitong Tseo ’17, who studies bioinformatics and other informatics; and Austin Hoang-Nam Vo ’18, who studies sociology at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill"

Wow such impressive places like UNC, Colorado, Northwestern, CMU. Much better than Hopkins and Rice. lolz.

Keep in mind, these are the top Williams grad school applicants.




Oh I get it. You're a massive troll. Wasting my time trying to convince me and others that Williams isn't prestigious, because they're sending students to CMU (which is one of the best CS schools, so not really getting the point) and Northwestern (better than JHU and Rice at economics) is strange.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA


Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.


Removing Rice and Hopkins which are more well known nationally - especially Hopkins compared to any LAC is funny. Especially since the top 3 LACs suck at stem and have no engineering.

Rice is not that well known. Hopkins is great for premed and math...and that's about the whole list. No, the top 3 lacs don't suck at STEM, they create a significant amount of top researchers and produce PHDs in the hard sciences and math. The engineering obsession has decayed your brain.


You sound angry with little maturity as an LAC graduate. It's ok, Swarthmore, Williams not being known nationally compared to Hopkins and Rice isn't the end of the world. The fact that the LAC majors have to go to grad school at places like Hopkins and Rice along with other actual research universities to gain legitimacy just owned your own argument.

You sound angry lol. I'm from Texas myself, and rice is rah-rah everything there. Telling a west coast or really a northeast person that you went to rice will produce a blank stare. The network stays in Texas for the most part, and they have a great niche...in STEM. I never attended an LAC, Princeton was too flattering, but anyone who has attended an ivy understands that LACs really aren't to be undermined experiences. I don't think any of the top lacs send more than a few per decade to rice or hopkins, but you know where the students are going? The other institutions on this list.


Rice literally has a DI program and plays many schools nationally. I'm in California, and it is well known.

Nice try saying you went to Princeton. Almost as believable as LACs sending only a few decade to Rice or Hopkins:

https://today.williams.edu/announcements/3_25_2021_nsf_grad_fellows/

"University of Colorado at Boulder; John Graf ’21, a mathematics major from Boulder, Colo.; Robin Huang ’21, an economics and mathematics major from Cranbury, N.J.; Peter Lugthart ’18, who studies economics at Northwestern University; Sophia Robert ’18, who studies cognitive neuroscience at Carnegie-Mellon University; Paige Knowles Robichaud ’21, a physics major from Austin, Texas; Emily Stump ’18, who studies quantum information science at Cornell University; Kaleb Yitong Tseo ’17, who studies bioinformatics and other informatics; and Austin Hoang-Nam Vo ’18, who studies sociology at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill"

Wow such impressive places like UNC, Colorado, Northwestern, CMU. Much better than Hopkins and Rice. lolz.

Keep in mind, these are the top Williams grad school applicants.




Oh I get it. You're a massive troll. Wasting my time trying to convince me and others that Williams isn't prestigious, because they're sending students to CMU (which is one of the best CS schools, so not really getting the point) and Northwestern (better than JHU and Rice at economics) is strange.


Bizarre since Hopkins and Rice are better in a number of fields compared to others on your list. But then again, you think LACs are more well known nationally, Rice is only rah rah in Texas, and that Hopkins is only good in math and premed is pretty dumb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's also nuances to this. I'm not impressed by an engineering major from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth.

It's like getting a Master's in Education at any of these schools and calling yourself an ivy grad. It's dilution.


You’re an idiot then.

What’s your engineering experience?
Anonymous
Here's some quick info since you cant get basic facts right:

Hopkins grad rankings:

#8 Education (NU, CMU unranked)
#6 Bio (NU #32, CMU #37)
#14 Engineering (NU #16, CMU #7)
#22 economics (NU #8, #21 CMU)
#20 chem (NU #6, #38 CMU)
#13 english (NU #13, CMU #41)
#13 physics (NU #21, CMU #28)
#12 psychology (NU #9, CMU #28)
#1 public health (#29, CMU unranked)
#7 Sociology (CMU unranked)

Nevermind, Hopkins only good at Math and premed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's also nuances to this. I'm not impressed by an engineering major from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth.

It's like getting a Master's in Education at any of these schools and calling yourself an ivy grad. It's dilution.


You’re an idiot then.

What’s your engineering experience?


Chances are I'm smarter than you. It's a low bar. Went to MIT and now work in FNG.
Anonymous
The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.
If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.
If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.


Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.
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