Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is such a weird list

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Caltech, Columbia, Penn (mainly bc of Wharton)

2A) Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Swarthmore

3A) Notre Dame, Emory, UCLA, Wellesley, Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

What the hell does this even mean, though? I would never assume 2As are better educated/more capable than 2Bs or 3As. I certainly wouldn't assume a UCLA grad is better educated/more capable than a W&L grad, for instance.

It makes a little more sense if you think about it as each individual level is roughly equivalent to the level immediately above & below it. Only when a level is 2 or more levels away is there a meaningful difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are many excellent universities, but I limit this definition to the T15 schools (Ivy + Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke and Johns Hopkins) + Amherst Williams Swarthmore

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This is what “elite” means

[Anonymous]

Nowadays, many ivies are not elite enough. Penn is highly technical. Cornell is becoming an engineering + state uni. Brown is heavily leaning toward technical. For Columbia, only its Columbia College may be considered elite. General studies and Barnard are not even close.

That leaves HPY to remain as elite schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, many ivies are not elite enough. Penn is highly technical. Cornell is becoming an engineering + state uni. Brown is heavily leaning toward technical. For Columbia, only its Columbia College may be considered elite. General studies and Barnard are not even close.

That leaves HPY to remain as elite schools.

What happens to Dartmouth?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta be Northeastern

+1 Northeastern. Way harder to get into than Michigan.

Not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, many ivies are not elite enough. Penn is highly technical. Cornell is becoming an engineering + state uni. Brown is heavily leaning toward technical. For Columbia, only its Columbia College may be considered elite. General studies and Barnard are not even close.

That leaves HPY to remain as elite schools.

Clearly you don’t work in finance or recruiting on the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, many ivies are not elite enough. Penn is highly technical. Cornell is becoming an engineering + state uni. Brown is heavily leaning toward technical. For Columbia, only its Columbia College may be considered elite. General studies and Barnard are not even close.

That leaves HPY to remain as elite schools.

Clearly you don’t work in finance or recruiting on the street.

Recruiting in finance does remain very antiquated. Everyone else knows the Ivies and Stanford are not what they used to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, many ivies are not elite enough. Penn is highly technical. Cornell is becoming an engineering + state uni. Brown is heavily leaning toward technical. For Columbia, only its Columbia College may be considered elite. General studies and Barnard are not even close.

That leaves HPY to remain as elite schools.

What happens to Dartmouth?

Aren't those Princeton rejects hidden in the mountains of New Hampshire?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nowadays, many ivies are not elite enough. Penn is highly technical. Cornell is becoming an engineering + state uni. Brown is heavily leaning toward technical. For Columbia, only its Columbia College may be considered elite. General studies and Barnard are not even close.

That leaves HPY to remain as elite schools.

What happens to Dartmouth?

Aren't those Princeton rejects hidden in the mountains of New Hampshire?

Pretty sure, during the Supreme Court hearing against affirmative action, the audience laughed at the idea of Harvard being at the level of Dartmouth at one point. It’s a joke amongst the elite.

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Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA

Maybe before the uc’s went test-blind + off the rails social-engineering. Total joke.

[Anonymous]

There are many excellent universities, but I limit this definition to the T15 schools (Ivy + Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke and Johns Hopkins) + Amherst Williams Swarthmore


Correct

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

BOGUS

Completely bogus, biased and baseless rating.. its just a fancy doodling

Where is selectivity or the acceptance rate.. thats one of the most important factor. Any univ / college that has acceptance rate greater than 15% cant be called as elite.

Another, over all endowment and endowment per student.. Any college / univ with less than $1Mn per student endowment cant be called as elite.

I like these two parameters, that's truly elite consideration.

So what are the colleges according to these two parameters?

Ridiculous with many colleges manipulating selectivity…no supplemental essays, no application fee, high ED rates, offering ED2 option, and more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA

Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth
Georgetown
UC Berkeley
UCLA

Eh. Wouldn't include the UCs. Would add Rice, Penn, and Vanderbilt. Would lower Northwestern and Georgetown. CalTech, ok fine, brilliant but such a small, unique school for undergrad. Would add Michigan. People value STEM these days.

My personal real world list would be

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Princeton
Duke
Penn
CalTech
Yale
Chicago
Brown
Columbia
Northwestern
Rice
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Cornell
Georgetown
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Notre Dame
Williams
Amherst
Naval Academy
West Point
UVA

Would kick out UVA and remove the Naval Academy. Would probably add Pomona and Swarthmore, and undoubtedly would keep Berkeley and UCLA. Would remove Rice and Johns Hopkins.