Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

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Anonymous wrote:There's also nuances to this. I'm not impressed by an engineering major from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth.

It's like getting a Master's in Education at any of these schools and calling yourself an ivy grad. It's dilution.

You’re an idiot then.

What’s your engineering experience?

Chances are I'm smarter than you. It's a low bar. Went to MIT and now work in FNG.

Still an idiot. And a braggart.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

Most software engineers at these companies are perfectly content. It's why tenure there is high and salaries keep increasing due to competition. Getting into FNG (the hard part) is harder than HYPS statistically.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

i have a feeling you didn't actually work in tech as a SWE. Working with complex distributed systems and complex code is challenging. If you want actual cutting edge materials, you have the opportunity to join Google Brain or DeepMind along with a plethora of other ML based positions as well through the bay. And you're constantly working with data for products with users in the billions. Finance jobs are considered antiquated here for good reason - it's why those companies haven't innovated much and are getting disrupted. They don't attract top talent and pay comparably lower salaries as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

Most software engineers at these companies are perfectly content. It's why tenure there is high and salaries keep increasing due to competition. Getting into FNG (the hard part) is harder than HYPS statistically.

Interested in your experiences with FAANG, because I personally have very contrasting opinions from...working in it. I'm sure they're content with salaries, few people making over 200k are bitter about salary outcomes other than some Junior analyst at Goldman. The lifestyle is pretty tragic however and burns a lot of flames. Of course, it's not exactly enough news that people hate working in Big Tech, cause no one feels bad for the dude making it big. It's an assholish thing to say for some reason that jobs that pay well often times do suck.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

i have a feeling you didn't actually work in tech as a SWE. Working with complex distributed systems and complex code is challenging. If you want actual cutting edge materials, you have the opportunity to join Google Brain or DeepMind along with a plethora of other ML based positions as well through the bay. And you're constantly working with data for products with users in the billions. Finance jobs are considered antiquated here for good reason - it's why those companies haven't innovated much and are getting disrupted. They don't attract top talent and pay comparably lower salaries as a result.

I'm not going to defend my career to you on a job board. You're just gonna have to not trust me, because what a massive waste.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

i have a feeling you didn't actually work in tech as a SWE. Working with complex distributed systems and complex code is challenging. If you want actual cutting edge materials, you have the opportunity to join Google Brain or DeepMind along with a plethora of other ML based positions as well through the bay. And you're constantly working with data for products with users in the billions. Finance jobs are considered antiquated here for good reason - it's why those companies haven't innovated much and are getting disrupted. They don't attract top talent and pay comparably lower salaries as a result.

I'm not going to defend my career to you on a job board. You're just gonna have to not trust me, because what a massive waste.

Given the state of tech, focus on profitability and efficiency, plus AI, no one is sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

Most software engineers at these companies are perfectly content. It's why tenure there is high and salaries keep increasing due to competition. Getting into FNG (the hard part) is harder than HYPS statistically.

Interested in your experiences with FAANG, because I personally have very contrasting opinions from...working in it. I'm sure they're content with salaries, few people making over 200k are bitter about salary outcomes other than some Junior analyst at Goldman. The lifestyle is pretty tragic however and burns a lot of flames. Of course, it's not exactly enough news that people hate working in Big Tech, cause no one feels bad for the dude making it big. It's an assholish thing to say for some reason that jobs that pay well often times do suck.

In what way is it tragic? Working 40 hours max a week on hard problems with an ability to save for retirement at an accelerated pace? The ability to save for early retirement while making more than senior lawyers or doctors without having incurred soul crushing debt? I work with extremely smart coworkers on tough problems (think search ranking relevancy). Is it the most exciting job in the world? No, but it's better than most.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

i have a feeling you didn't actually work in tech as a SWE. Working with complex distributed systems and complex code is challenging. If you want actual cutting edge materials, you have the opportunity to join Google Brain or DeepMind along with a plethora of other ML based positions as well through the bay. And you're constantly working with data for products with users in the billions. Finance jobs are considered antiquated here for good reason - it's why those companies haven't innovated much and are getting disrupted. They don't attract top talent and pay comparably lower salaries as a result.

I'm not going to defend my career to you on a job board. You're just gonna have to not trust me, because what a massive waste.

Given the state of tech, focus on profitability and efficiency, plus AI, no one is sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

Sure. I can't tell if everyone on these forums speaks on things they have limited experience in, or if these are just the collected beliefs on tech. Most people in tech are not working in cool positions, even in FAANG. These are the things you hear from freshman who are going to work in IBM Watson and then you never see him again, cause he failed out of the intro CS001 class.

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Anonymous wrote:There's also nuances to this. I'm not impressed by an engineering major from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth.

It's like getting a Master's in Education at any of these schools and calling yourself an ivy grad. It's dilution.

You’re an idiot then.

What’s your engineering experience?

I concur. Programs are all strong with ABET certification. I've heard great things about Brown engineers anecdotally and seen them on several NASA lists.

The attempt at some kind of academic classics is bumbling and smacks of some kind of inferiority complex.

The grandstanding and denigrating attitude just makes him look like a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

i have a feeling you didn't actually work in tech as a SWE. Working with complex distributed systems and complex code is challenging. If you want actual cutting edge materials, you have the opportunity to join Google Brain or DeepMind along with a plethora of other ML based positions as well through the bay. And you're constantly working with data for products with users in the billions. Finance jobs are considered antiquated here for good reason - it's why those companies haven't innovated much and are getting disrupted. They don't attract top talent and pay comparably lower salaries as a result.

I'm not going to defend my career to you on a job board. You're just gonna have to not trust me, because what a massive waste.

Given the state of tech, focus on profitability and efficiency, plus AI, no one is sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

Sure. I can't tell if everyone on these forums speaks on things they have limited experience in, or if these are just the collected beliefs on tech. Most people in tech are not working in cool positions, even in FAANG. These are the things you hear from freshman who are going to work in IBM Watson and then you never see him again, cause he failed out of the intro CS001 class.

Meh, I've shared more than most on here that lends credence to my background without any ability to being doxxed. You not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:There's also nuances to this. I'm not impressed by an engineering major from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth.

It's like getting a Master's in Education at any of these schools and calling yourself an ivy grad. It's dilution.

You’re an idiot then.

What’s your engineering experience?

I concur. Programs are all strong with ABET certification. I've heard great things about Brown engineers anecdotally and seen them on several NASA lists.

The attempt at some kind of academic classics is bumbling and smacks of some kind of inferiority complex.

The grandstanding and denigrating attitude just makes him look like a jerk.

So you've heard. Have you work with many of them? Why go to Brown specifically for Engineering vs Cornell?

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Anonymous wrote:The STEM circlejerk happens too often here that I'm beginning to believe this is DCUD or DCU-kid's who get a C in their into engineering class and feel they're smarter than everyone else in the room. If you think you're smarter than everyone else in the forum, there's a great quote that is often used in STEM leadership circles that you'll love.

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Further evidence of brain decay here. Somehow extrapolates thinking being smarter than one person is equivalent to entire room.

It becomes tiring seeing people talk so highly of STEM here when most of the majors can't even get you a good job.
-An ex- math major sick of explaining that no, software engineering isn't a "math" career and is very much a waste of skill, talent, and a degree.

Ah yes, such a waste. I'm sure most Software Engineers at FNG are crying at their 500k annual compensation.

No, they're crying of intense boredom and often need to move on to do something stimulating for once. I'd know, that's how I ended up back in DC from Cupertino and with much of my team leaving to start their own companies to finally get challenged in something. At least in finance you get massive data sets and a bunch of pressure, so it feels like you're doing something advanced.

i have a feeling you didn't actually work in tech as a SWE. Working with complex distributed systems and complex code is challenging. If you want actual cutting edge materials, you have the opportunity to join Google Brain or DeepMind along with a plethora of other ML based positions as well through the bay. And you're constantly working with data for products with users in the billions. Finance jobs are considered antiquated here for good reason - it's why those companies haven't innovated much and are getting disrupted. They don't attract top talent and pay comparably lower salaries as a result.

I'm not going to defend my career to you on a job board. You're just gonna have to not trust me, because what a massive waste.

Given the state of tech, focus on profitability and efficiency, plus AI, no one is sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

Sure. I can't tell if everyone on these forums speaks on things they have limited experience in, or if these are just the collected beliefs on tech. Most people in tech are not working in cool positions, even in FAANG. These are the things you hear from freshman who are going to work in IBM Watson and then you never see him again, cause he failed out of the intro CS001 class.

Meh, I've shared more than most on here that lends credence to my background without any ability to being doxxed. You not so much.

By bringing up one CS topic and then saying Finance is "antiquated"... Citadel and Goldman aren't too worried about losing quants anytime soon.