NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

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Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?

You’ll be glad to know this doesn’t happen, so your reservation has been cared for.


Really? Every woman who gets an abortion has been forcibly impregnated? No one has ever had unprotected sex, gotten pregnant, then aborted the baby they didn’t want?

Man you really do learn something new every day.


If you don’t believe in abortion don’t have one. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you? Be thankful if you have never been the victim of child sexual abuse. Be thankful if you have never found yourself in an abusive relationship. Be thankful if you grew up in a stable home with two loving, involved parents or even one. Until you walk in someone else’s shoes, you don’t know what choices you might make.


It’s like saying if you don’t want to own slaves don’t do it. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you?

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Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?

You’ll be glad to know this doesn’t happen, so your reservation has been cared for.


Really? Every woman who gets an abortion has been forcibly impregnated? No one has ever had unprotected sex, gotten pregnant, then aborted the baby they didn’t want?

Man you really do learn something new every day.


If you don’t believe in abortion don’t have one. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you? Be thankful if you have never been the victim of child sexual abuse. Be thankful if you have never found yourself in an abusive relationship. Be thankful if you grew up in a stable home with two loving, involved parents or even one. Until you walk in someone else’s shoes, you don’t know what choices you might make.


It’s like saying if you don’t want to own slaves don’t do it. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you?



What's your plan for when pregnancy turns dangerous? Do you realize multiple women have been airlifted out of Idaho to receive life-saving abortions, due to Idaho's complete ban? OBGYNs are leaving the state due to the ban, which means a lack of care providers for ALL women, not just those seeking abortions. Do you think it is feasible in the long term to have a dearth of skilled providers of women's healthcare?
OBGYNs do more than just deliver babies and provide abortions, you know.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?

You’ll be glad to know this doesn’t happen, so your reservation has been cared for.


Really? Every woman who gets an abortion has been forcibly impregnated? No one has ever had unprotected sex, gotten pregnant, then aborted the baby they didn’t want?

Man you really do learn something new every day.


If you don’t believe in abortion don’t have one. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you? Be thankful if you have never been the victim of child sexual abuse. Be thankful if you have never found yourself in an abusive relationship. Be thankful if you grew up in a stable home with two loving, involved parents or even one. Until you walk in someone else’s shoes, you don’t know what choices you might make.


It’s like saying if you don’t want to own slaves don’t do it. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you?



It's actually nothing like that at all.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?


Listen, idiot. Birth control can fail. You live by your beliefs and allow me to live by mine.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?

You’ll be glad to know this doesn’t happen, so your reservation has been cared for.


Really? Every woman who gets an abortion has been forcibly impregnated? No one has ever had unprotected sex, gotten pregnant, then aborted the baby they didn’t want?

Man you really do learn something new every day.


If you don’t believe in abortion don’t have one. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you? Be thankful if you have never been the victim of child sexual abuse. Be thankful if you have never found yourself in an abusive relationship. Be thankful if you grew up in a stable home with two loving, involved parents or even one. Until you walk in someone else’s shoes, you don’t know what choices you might make.


It’s like saying if you don’t want to own slaves don’t do it. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you?



The stupidity of the above post is beyond belief.
Anonymous
LOL, at the embarrassingly stupid ‘slave’ analogy.

These are the frighteningly dumb people who don't understand not every woman got pregnant during a one night stand and treats abortion like birth control and goes to a clinic and gets a card punched and the 12th abortion is free, or that every woman even WANTED the abortion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:LOL, at the embarrassingly stupid ‘slave’ analogy.

These are the frighteningly dumb people who don't understand not every woman got pregnant during a one night stand and treats abortion like birth control and goes to a clinic and gets a card punched and the 12th abortion is free, or that every woman even WANTED the abortion.


98% of abortions in the US are elective. There was no rape or incest, no medical problems for either mother or baby.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?

You’ll be glad to know this doesn’t happen, so your reservation has been cared for.


Really? Every woman who gets an abortion has been forcibly impregnated? No one has ever had unprotected sex, gotten pregnant, then aborted the baby they didn’t want?

Man you really do learn something new every day.


If you don’t believe in abortion don’t have one. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you? Be thankful if you have never been the victim of child sexual abuse. Be thankful if you have never found yourself in an abusive relationship. Be thankful if you grew up in a stable home with two loving, involved parents or even one. Until you walk in someone else’s shoes, you don’t know what choices you might make.


It’s like saying if you don’t want to own slaves don’t do it. How does someone else’s choice personally impact you?



It's actually nothing like that at all.


There is no situation in your life where you would ever medically need to own slaves to save your own life. There are hundreds if not thousands of situations where an abortion is required to save a woman's life. A woman who is walking, talking, breathing and pays taxes and oftentimes has other children at home. Your slave argument makes absolutely no sense and tells everyone on this board that you do not want to have a conversation in good faith. Either that or you have been spoon-fed a bunch of BS that you just keep spouting back
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOL, at the embarrassingly stupid ‘slave’ analogy.

These are the frighteningly dumb people who don't understand not every woman got pregnant during a one night stand and treats abortion like birth control and goes to a clinic and gets a card punched and the 12th abortion is free, or that every woman even WANTED the abortion.


98% of abortions in the US are elective. There was no rape or incest, no medical problems for either mother or baby.


Is that what newsmax tells you?
Anonymous
I had a friend who survived lymphoma twice and unexpectedly ended up pregnant with their third child. Meaning birth control failed her husband and.
After she was pregnant she found out her lymphoma is back. She had the choice to terminate the pregnancy and start treatment immediately or to carry the pregnancy to term and start treatment after. That was her choice and not a choice I would have made and unfortunately since she delayed treatment she ended up passing a year later. Now her husband has three children under the age of seven to raise on his own. And while I feel for him, that was a choice that they made together to delay treatment. Did not want the government to tell me I had to delay treatment and likely leave my children motherless
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOL, at the embarrassingly stupid ‘slave’ analogy.

These are the frighteningly dumb people who don't understand not every woman got pregnant during a one night stand and treats abortion like birth control and goes to a clinic and gets a card punched and the 12th abortion is free, or that every woman even WANTED the abortion.


98% of abortions in the US are elective. There was no rape or incest, no medical problems for either mother or baby.


Is that what newsmax tells you?


Elective termination of pregnancy remains common in the United States. Abortion is one of the most common medical procedures performed in the United States each year.


In spite of the introduction of newer, more effective, and more widely available contraceptive methods, more than half of the 6 million pregnancies occurring each year in the United States are considered unplanned by the women who are pregnant. Of these pregnancies, approximately half end in elective terminations.

Abortion is the only common surgical procedure that is elective in obstetric and gynecologic residencies. Thus, few board-certified gynecologists are actually qualified to perform the procedure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I had a friend who survived lymphoma twice and unexpectedly ended up pregnant with their third child. Meaning birth control failed her husband and.
After she was pregnant she found out her lymphoma is back. She had the choice to terminate the pregnancy and start treatment immediately or to carry the pregnancy to term and start treatment after. That was her choice and not a choice I would have made and unfortunately since she delayed treatment she ended up passing a year later. Now her husband has three children under the age of seven to raise on his own. And while I feel for him, that was a choice that they made together to delay treatment. Did not want the government to tell me I had to delay treatment and likely leave my children motherless


Are you dx’d with lymphoma and pregnant?
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Anonymous wrote:Why would I kill myself for an h born when I have living children to take care of!?!?


How are you killing yourself?


Ectopic pregnancies
Sepsis
Infection due to PPROM
Extreme cases of HG
Cancers discovered during pregnancy
Heart conditions discovered during pregnancy
Pre-existing heart or kidney conditions or other health conditions for which pregnancy poses extreme risks
Placental abruption
Pre-eclampsia
Etc
Etc
Etc

All of the above can be fatal to the mother. All can result in life-altering consequences to the mother and limit or prohibit her ability to carry future pregnancies or take care of children she already has.

Have you never known anyone in your life who has had a life-threatening pregnancy? How fortunate.


Then don’t have sex I guess? These are like the arguments made against ending slavery before machinery and electricity. Working a farm by hand in the hot summer sun is way deadlier than pregnancy. The abuse of the helpless for the convenience of the strong is wrong in every age.


I had a friend who died from a much wanted pregnancy that suddenly and unexpectedly killed her.

That can happen in any pregnancy. Moreover pregnancy is a difficult process that leaves every woman’s body changed. It is literally labor to gestate for 9 months. And difficult, potentially dangerous and even deadly work. That’s why women get to decide, why they have the upper hand in deciding if they are willing to donate their body and their labor and time to gestating a human being. You seem to believe in forced labor. That is completely un-American.


What medical disease killed your friend?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?


Listen, idiot. Birth control can fail. You live by your beliefs and allow me to live by mine.


You people seriously can’t read. I am pro choice. Have your abortion. But you’re pretty disgusting for aborting a baby just because you don’t want one.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.


What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?


DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?

You’ll be glad to know this doesn’t happen, so your reservation has been cared for.


Really? Every woman who gets an abortion has been forcibly impregnated? No one has ever had unprotected sex, gotten pregnant, then aborted the baby they didn’t want?

Man you really do learn something new every day.


Hey do you know birth control (ALL forms of birth control) can fail, even if used perfectly?


You’re proving my point. The only way to not get pregnant is to not have sex. When you have sex with birth control, and still get pregnant, you are using an abortion as a form of birth control.

Again, I’m pro choice. But having an abortion as a method of birth control is disgusting.


So...you propose abstinence only, even in marriage, if someone doesn't want a baby?


There are other ways to have sex that are not PIV.

I am not proposing anything. I am just stating the facts. The only way to guarantee not getting pregnant is to not have sex.

I believe in anyone’s right to have an abortion. I also believe it’s disgusting to terminate a baby just because you don’t want one.

You don’t want a baby? Don’t have PIV sex. It’s really not complicated.
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