What is the worst issue confronting middle aged women in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Our society now expecting women to be hot and fit through their 50s.

This. And better have a super successful career, a Pinterest worthy house, etc too. Ugh.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

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You need to get off social media.

This response is exemplary of the increase in open misogyny from the left, particularly progressives. “Social media” doesn’t change underlying facts. You believe women can’t look around them and disagree with the orthodoxy of the progressive left on their own. You believe that women cannot look critically at some of the positions advocated by the left and reach a conclusion that disagrees with those positions. In essence, you don’t believe women can think on their own, that women are capable of independent thought outside of approved groupthink. And when faced with women who reject progressive orthodoxy, your response is to lash out and to take the position that women who disagree with progressive heterodoxy must be brainwashed by social media, influenced by Fox News (that none of us watch), or otherwise be incapable of reaching a single conflicting conclusion on our own.

And then you wonder why women, many women, see and fear a rise of misogyny as a political platform from the Democrats as well as the Republicans? You don’t even think women are capable of independent thought.

DP. I’d say men are far worse at believing the disinformation floating around social media. But women aren’t immune.

PP is correct. Get off social media.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

+1 I'm flabbergasted at how the left thinks allowing males to violate female spaces like sports and bathrooms is the way to go. It's misogynistic. I also agree with the Israel stuff too. It feels like we can't count on the left to protect us anymore, but neither can the right, so . . .

Yeah, it’s been a pretty distressing wake-up call. I mean I always knew the woman-hating Bernie Bro wing of the Democrats existed, but they seem to have taken over the entire party.

This. I don’t appreciate being equated with a man who elected to alter his body.

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Anonymous wrote:My answer: Trumpers & Republicans

My answer; Bidumbers and Democrats.

See, they cant even come up with something original.

and yes, PP, it is our necks. I don't like scarves. Argh.

See, you are too dense to get I was mocking a stupid post by responding with the opposite mirror image of it.

Demonstrating again that Republicans have no sense of humor. They think Babylon Bee is “funny”.

The Babylon Bee is hilarious regardless of political party.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

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You need to get off social media.

This response is exemplary of the increase in open misogyny from the left, particularly progressives. “Social media” doesn’t change underlying facts. You believe women can’t look around them and disagree with the orthodoxy of the progressive left on their own. You believe that women cannot look critically at some of the positions advocated by the left and reach a conclusion that disagrees with those positions. In essence, you don’t believe women can think on their own, that women are capable of independent thought outside of approved groupthink. And when faced with women who reject progressive orthodoxy, your response is to lash out and to take the position that women who disagree with progressive heterodoxy must be brainwashed by social media, influenced by Fox News (that none of us watch), or otherwise be incapable of reaching a single conflicting conclusion on our own.

And then you wonder why women, many women, see and fear a rise of misogyny as a political platform from the Democrats as well as the Republicans? You don’t even think women are capable of independent thought.

DP. I’d say men are far worse at believing the disinformation floating around social media. But women aren’t immune.

PP is correct. Get off social media.

I don’t use social media. But I am a woman, which apparently means you do not believe I am incapable of reaching my own conclusions.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

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You need to get off social media.

This response is exemplary of the increase in open misogyny from the left, particularly progressives. “Social media” doesn’t change underlying facts. You believe women can’t look around them and disagree with the orthodoxy of the progressive left on their own. You believe that women cannot look critically at some of the positions advocated by the left and reach a conclusion that disagrees with those positions. In essence, you don’t believe women can think on their own, that women are capable of independent thought outside of approved groupthink. And when faced with women who reject progressive orthodoxy, your response is to lash out and to take the position that women who disagree with progressive heterodoxy must be brainwashed by social media, influenced by Fox News (that none of us watch), or otherwise be incapable of reaching a single conflicting conclusion on our own.

And then you wonder why women, many women, see and fear a rise of misogyny as a political platform from the Democrats as well as the Republicans? You don’t even think women are capable of independent thought.

DP. I’d say men are far worse at believing the disinformation floating around social media. But women aren’t immune.

PP is correct. Get off social media.

I don’t use social media. But I am a woman, which apparently means you do not believe I am incapable of reaching my own conclusions.

^^ capable of

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Anonymous wrote:Your thoughts?

Ageism

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Anonymous wrote:White middle aged women are sandwiched in their family life between their children and their parents, but also in their professional life, between the patriarchy and DEI. We're everyone's caretaker, but also everyone's bad guy, and no matter how hard we work, in every aspect of our lives, we're never a priority for promotion.

White women are never a priority? What?

Today's workplace is
least likely to have any kind of pressure to promote a white woman compared to patriarchal/boys club pressure and DEI pressure. We're sandwiched between two pressure groups who demand we shut up, deny ourselves, and support them.

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Anonymous wrote:White middle aged women are sandwiched in their family life between their children and their parents, but also in their professional life, between the patriarchy and DEI. We're everyone's caretaker, but also everyone's bad guy, and no matter how hard we work, in every aspect of our lives, we're never a priority for promotion.

White women are never a priority? What?

Who prioritizes white women, beyond putting an idealized version of one on a pedestal as a beauty standard (that almost no actual white women live up to)?

I don't think white women have it as bad as people who aren't white but I don't think white women have it good either*. And we are at this weird juncture where white women are not allowed to complain about ways in which they are oppressed, or even point them out, because of a desire to boil white women down to their whiteness only (it's like the the opposite of intersectionalism). Also, this movement to hold white women accountable for their privilege and racism? It's been most embraced by white men. I wonder why....

*I know that people will say "wtf I know white women who have it good" and I do too but every single of one of them has it so good because of the support/protection of a white man. And that doesn't mean all white women married to or the children of white men have it good either, because most white men don't protect/support the white women in their lives -- they ignore, use, resent, or abuse them. And even many of the white men who offer protection/support do so for selfish reasons (think Donald Trump and Ivanka) because they view the white women in they orbit as assets and reflections of their own glory.

Being a white woman is not some joyous experience. It's a glass prison.

Try being a middle aged black woman.

The middle aged UMC black women I know in the DMV are doing well. They have very strong professional networks and family support.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

This

You need to get off social media.

This response is exemplary of the increase in open misogyny from the left, particularly progressives. “Social media” doesn’t change underlying facts. You believe women can’t look around them and disagree with the orthodoxy of the progressive left on their own. You believe that women cannot look critically at some of the positions advocated by the left and reach a conclusion that disagrees with those positions. In essence, you don’t believe women can think on their own, that women are capable of independent thought outside of approved groupthink. And when faced with women who reject progressive orthodoxy, your response is to lash out and to take the position that women who disagree with progressive heterodoxy must be brainwashed by social media, influenced by Fox News (that none of us watch), or otherwise be incapable of reaching a single conflicting conclusion on our own.

And then you wonder why women, many women, see and fear a rise of misogyny as a political platform from the Democrats as well as the Republicans? You don’t even think women are capable of independent thought.

DP. I’d say men are far worse at believing the disinformation floating around social media. But women aren’t immune.

PP is correct. Get off social media.

Yep. These PPs think some little set of extreme but loud voices on social media = the Dem party. Or confuse misinformation planted out there by the right as = a Dem agenda. The lack of critical thinking and ignorance is staggering.

Get off social media and talk to real people. Real people I know who are Dems are not radical progressives. They do not diminish the events of 10/7 or diminish any sexual violence for that matter. They do not espouse misogyny.

Some women think just fine for themselves, but there are certainly some who have lost their wave in the maze of disinformation on social media.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

This

You need to get off social media.

This response is exemplary of the increase in open misogyny from the left, particularly progressives. “Social media” doesn’t change underlying facts. You believe women can’t look around them and disagree with the orthodoxy of the progressive left on their own. You believe that women cannot look critically at some of the positions advocated by the left and reach a conclusion that disagrees with those positions. In essence, you don’t believe women can think on their own, that women are capable of independent thought outside of approved groupthink. And when faced with women who reject progressive orthodoxy, your response is to lash out and to take the position that women who disagree with progressive heterodoxy must be brainwashed by social media, influenced by Fox News (that none of us watch), or otherwise be incapable of reaching a single conflicting conclusion on our own.

And then you wonder why women, many women, see and fear a rise of misogyny as a political platform from the Democrats as well as the Republicans? You don’t even think women are capable of independent thought.

DP. I’d say men are far worse at believing the disinformation floating around social media. But women aren’t immune.

PP is correct. Get off social media.

Yep. These PPs think some little set of extreme but loud voices on social media = the Dem party. Or confuse misinformation planted out there by the right as = a Dem agenda. The lack of critical thinking and ignorance is staggering.

Get off social media and talk to real people. Real people I know who are Dems are not radical progressives. They do not diminish the events of 10/7 or diminish any sexual violence for that matter. They do not espouse misogyny.

Some women think just fine for themselves, but there are certainly some who have lost their wave in the maze of disinformation on social media.

It’s remarkable how you have to classify disagreement as the pernicious influence of social media because you cannot permit a woman the freedom to have her own independent thought. This is itself a profoundly misogynistic position and only serves to prove the point that progressive Democrats are embracing misogyny as a party platform.

Also, you are wrong. Demanding the end of sex-based sports, prison, awards, and other historic (and hard-earned) spaces for girls and women is indeed espousing misogyny. We can all see and read the statutes passed and the positions taken by elected Democrats. And we can also see what was said (or more importantly, not said) in response to 10/7.

Please stop with your Orwellian nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged men

Truth! Who turn in to angry old men.

Yes! And why are they so angry all the time?

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Anonymous wrote:White middle aged women are sandwiched in their family life between their children and their parents, but also in their professional life, between the patriarchy and DEI. We're everyone's caretaker, but also everyone's bad guy, and no matter how hard we work, in every aspect of our lives, we're never a priority for promotion.

White women are never a priority? What?

Today's workplace is
least likely to have any kind of pressure to promote a white woman compared to patriarchal/boys club pressure and DEI pressure. We're sandwiched between two pressure groups who demand we shut up, deny ourselves, and support them.

White women are counted as diversity in all executive and leadership hiring where there has been a huge push to hire them. They also have the most spots in elite universities and professional schools. I wouldn't say you are sandwiched at all, just feeling the exact same way white men felt at the top.

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Definitely, gravity.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think it’s the rise of misogyny as an overt political platform of both parties. Both parties are openly throwing themselves into misogyny as a winning electoral issue. It’s frankly terrifying.

What is the Dem misogyny?

The progressive wing of the party has leaned in hard on taking the side of using rape and sexual assault as a weapon of political terror. The refusal to unequivocally condemn the documented sexual violence from Hamas and the silence of progressive women’s organizations (which are all Democrat supporters) on the issue has been extremely demoralizing. I started 10/7 as someone who would have probably said that I am largely aligned with the Democratic progressives on issues related to Israel, but the horrific minimization from that wing of the party of the sexual torture endured by Israeli women and children has been profoundly shocking to me, and just part and parcel of the overall trend of using misogyny as a political platform.

The Democrats have also been leading the charge in eliminating sex-based protections and spaces for women and they seem to be openly pretending that women haven’t been terrorized for millennia because of their biology. This comes up in various contexts, including the self-ID laws that they’ve pushed, and the extreme misogynist reaction to women who point out safety issues for women’s prisons, women’s sports, and other hard-fought spaces of sanctuary for women. A lot of current gender ideology is rooted in extreme misogyny, and the Democrats have leaned in heavily on that.

My political allegiance for years has been to the party that supports women, because I believe that leads to better societies. But I have no home now. Obviously the Republicans are out. But now the Democrats are too. The Democrats seem to have seen how successful misogyny as a platform was for the Republicans and just adopted that approach.

Your sense of reality is a little...off.

Where is she wrong?