Atheism is losing popularity because it won’t own it’s own sins

[Anonymous]

So to recap:
- no DCUM atheists or New Atheists are pushing for state-mandated atheism

- life with deep beliefs in supernatural forces has resulted in the deaths of many more people than life without those beliefs

[Anonymous]

Oh and:
- OP cares more about what “New Atheists” say than actual atheists

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So to recap:
- no DCUM atheists or New Atheists are pushing for state-mandated atheism

- life with deep beliefs in supernatural forces has resulted in the deaths of many more people than life without those beliefs

No: that’s intellectual dishonesty, which people use here often.

There’s no recap, agreeing to agree, etc, it’s just you using a technique you think works. Anyone who has a modicum of integrity and intelligence can see how dishonest you are.

[Anonymous]

OP is so obsessed with us atheists. I feel like I have a stalker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to recap:
- no DCUM atheists or New Atheists are pushing for state-mandated atheism

- life with deep beliefs in supernatural forces has resulted in the deaths of many more people than life without those beliefs

No: that’s intellectual dishonesty, which people use here often.

There’s no recap, agreeing to agree, etc, it’s just you using a technique you think works. Anyone who has a modicum of integrity and intelligence can see how dishonest you are.

No one needs to agree or disagree - those are just facts.

[Anonymous]

Remember that when you see a religious person, the only thing stoping them from raping and murdering you is their fear of Hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh and:
- OP cares more about what “New Atheists” say than actual atheists

I am an atheist and have never heard of "new atheists" before this thread taught me that apparently those of us who don't believe in organized religion are the biggest mass murderers on the planet. I wish someone would have told Hamas!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sigh. You view atheism as a belief system, and you want to compare it to your own belief system. You think it's a battle between belief systems for subscribers. Like people choose between Christianity and atheism the way they choose between Netflix and Hulu.

No.

It's more like Christianity is Netflix, Hulu is Islam, Max is Judaism, the Criterion Collection is Buddhism. And atheism is throwing out your TV.

Of course faith has an appeal, even to those who have lived without it. Especially to those who have lived without it. Religion also offers community and people crave that. But religions themselves don't always work within a person's life. It is normal for people to lose faith but then become curious about it again. It's easy to be a skeptic at 22, and it's easier to be a believer at 62.

I think Jews get it right because they support people in losing their faith within the religion. You can tell your own rabbi "I don't believe," and it's fine, you're still Jewish and nothing changes. The religion is about more than just faith, which can be hard to sustain.

Anyway, you are fighting over something that just doesn't work that way. No one is converting to atheism. They just lose faith.

I like this analogy.

OP's post definitely reads like atheism is just a counterpoint to Christianity rather than a reasoned rejection of fables and fairytales.

It seems like some religious people can only view the world through the lens of religion. A life without deep beliefs about supernatural forces just doesn't compute.

Similarly, it also seems like some people need to have a religious authority telling them what to do and think. They just can't imagine a life without having some sort of "leader". So they (weirdly and falsely) believe that atheists must be seeking out some kind of "leader" themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sigh. You view atheism as a belief system, and you want to compare it to your own belief system. You think it's a battle between belief systems for subscribers. Like people choose between Christianity and atheism the way they choose between Netflix and Hulu.

No.

It's more like Christianity is Netflix, Hulu is Islam, Max is Judaism, the Criterion Collection is Buddhism. And atheism is throwing out your TV.

Of course faith has an appeal, even to those who have lived without it. Especially to those who have lived without it. Religion also offers community and people crave that. But religions themselves don't always work within a person's life. It is normal for people to lose faith but then become curious about it again. It's easy to be a skeptic at 22, and it's easier to be a believer at 62.

I think Jews get it right because they support people in losing their faith within the religion. You can tell your own rabbi "I don't believe," and it's fine, you're still Jewish and nothing changes. The religion is about more than just faith, which can be hard to sustain.

Anyway, you are fighting over something that just doesn't work that way. No one is converting to atheism. They just lose faith.

It's kind of tiresome. When one thread about athiesm dies down, another one pops up. It seems like someone is just begging for someone to argue with them. I have no idea if some are from the same poster or not, but holy crap get over it. Athiests are not coming after your Christian lifestyle. A lot (if not most) really don't give a damn.

Maybe it's someone who is losing their faith and is struggling with it. It's tough to learn that everything you've believed for decades is BS.

No, my faith has remained stable, and grows even in times of hardship and sadness on earth because I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I am grateful for the life He has given to me. No one can be taught to have a relationship with God. It’s something you come to on a personal level.

People are taught religion, but religion is not what people should center their life on-it’s their personal belief in Christ that brings joy and peace. Religion doesn’t always bring peace. God does.

I wonder what He thinks about You obsessing over atheism. On a Sunday morning.

He loves me- and you.

Just like all of other supernatural forces who love me.

What other God claims to love all humanity?

I didn’t say anything about gods. I was thinking about other supernatural forces. Like those who can deliver presents to all kids around the world in a single night.

You really should start charging Santa rent for all that space he takes up in your head.

I love Santa - he is my fav supernatural character. Bonus, no one has killed millions of others in his name.

But Santa enslaves the elves.

kidding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember that when you see a religious person, the only thing stoping them from raping and murdering you is their fear of Hell.

John 3:17, “For God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

Christianity isn’t rooted in fear; it’s built upon salvation, hope, and faith. It’s the profound belief that despite our shortcomings and in spite of not deserving mercy, the divine power assures us of salvation through faith, without demanding anything in return. This salvation is a gracious gift. It’s bewildering to perceive malevolence in a God who willingly forgives our transgressions and bears the consequences on our behalf. Yet, based on your viewpoint, it seems you might struggle to forgive those with differing beliefs. I genuinely hope that one day you’ll recognize the love of God, even if you currently feel otherwise. He’s extended His hand of forgiveness, offering you a lifeline. All you need to do is accept it. Thus, if anyone faces eternal suffering, it’s not God’s doing; He came to provide salvation. God wishes no harm upon anyone. Ultimately, the choice of our final destination lies with us. It’s not about threats but a rescue mission. The true question is, will you decline this offer of grace and total forgiveness? Remember, it’s readily available to you without any conditions. Just believe and trust the Jesus wants you to enjoy eternal life. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember that when you see a religious person, the only thing stoping them from raping and murdering you is their fear of Hell.

John 3:17, “For God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

Christianity isn’t rooted in fear; it’s built upon salvation, hope, and faith. It’s the profound belief that despite our shortcomings and in spite of not deserving mercy, the divine power assures us of salvation through faith, without demanding anything in return. This salvation is a gracious gift. It’s bewildering to perceive malevolence in a God who willingly forgives our transgressions and bears the consequences on our behalf. Yet, based on your viewpoint, it seems you might struggle to forgive those with differing beliefs. I genuinely hope that one day you’ll recognize the love of God, even if you currently feel otherwise. He’s extended His hand of forgiveness, offering you a lifeline. All you need to do is accept it. Thus, if anyone faces eternal suffering, it’s not God’s doing; He came to provide salvation. God wishes no harm upon anyone. Ultimately, the choice of our final destination lies with us. It’s not about threats but a rescue mission. The true question is, will you decline this offer of grace and total forgiveness? Remember, it’s readily available to you without any conditions. Just believe and trust the Jesus wants you to enjoy eternal life. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

So your god is cool if people rape and murder as long as they have faith?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember that when you see a religious person, the only thing stoping them from raping and murdering you is their fear of Hell.

John 3:17, “For God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

Christianity isn’t rooted in fear; it’s built upon salvation, hope, and faith. It’s the profound belief that despite our shortcomings and in spite of not deserving mercy, the divine power assures us of salvation through faith, without demanding anything in return. This salvation is a gracious gift. It’s bewildering to perceive malevolence in a God who willingly forgives our transgressions and bears the consequences on our behalf. Yet, based on your viewpoint, it seems you might struggle to forgive those with differing beliefs. I genuinely hope that one day you’ll recognize the love of God, even if you currently feel otherwise. He’s extended His hand of forgiveness, offering you a lifeline. All you need to do is accept it. Thus, if anyone faces eternal suffering, it’s not God’s doing; He came to provide salvation. God wishes no harm upon anyone. Ultimately, the choice of our final destination lies with us. It’s not about threats but a rescue mission. The true question is, will you decline this offer of grace and total forgiveness? Remember, it’s readily available to you without any conditions. Just believe and trust the Jesus wants you to enjoy eternal life. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

I don't think you realize but you just 100% supported and proved PP's point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember that when you see a religious person, the only thing stoping them from raping and murdering you is their fear of Hell.

John 3:17, “For God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

Christianity isn’t rooted in fear; it’s built upon salvation, hope, and faith. It’s the profound belief that despite our shortcomings and in spite of not deserving mercy, the divine power assures us of salvation through faith, without demanding anything in return. This salvation is a gracious gift. It’s bewildering to perceive malevolence in a God who willingly forgives our transgressions and bears the consequences on our behalf. Yet, based on your viewpoint, it seems you might struggle to forgive those with differing beliefs. I genuinely hope that one day you’ll recognize the love of God, even if you currently feel otherwise. He’s extended His hand of forgiveness, offering you a lifeline. All you need to do is accept it. Thus, if anyone faces eternal suffering, it’s not God’s doing; He came to provide salvation. God wishes no harm upon anyone. Ultimately, the choice of our final destination lies with us. It’s not about threats but a rescue mission. The true question is, will you decline this offer of grace and total forgiveness? Remember, it’s readily available to you without any conditions. Just believe and trust the Jesus wants you to enjoy eternal life. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

So your god is cool if people rape and murder as long as they have faith?

You know that’s not how it works.

However, atheists are cool
with 100 million innocent people being starved, tortured, and killed by communist states that mandated atheism. I find it really hard to believe you care about people being raped and murdered, because your ideology is World Champion at murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember that when you see a religious person, the only thing stoping them from raping and murdering you is their fear of Hell.

John 3:17, “For God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

Christianity isn’t rooted in fear; it’s built upon salvation, hope, and faith. It’s the profound belief that despite our shortcomings and in spite of not deserving mercy, the divine power assures us of salvation through faith, without demanding anything in return. This salvation is a gracious gift. It’s bewildering to perceive malevolence in a God who willingly forgives our transgressions and bears the consequences on our behalf. Yet, based on your viewpoint, it seems you might struggle to forgive those with differing beliefs. I genuinely hope that one day you’ll recognize the love of God, even if you currently feel otherwise. He’s extended His hand of forgiveness, offering you a lifeline. All you need to do is accept it. Thus, if anyone faces eternal suffering, it’s not God’s doing; He came to provide salvation. God wishes no harm upon anyone. Ultimately, the choice of our final destination lies with us. It’s not about threats but a rescue mission. The true question is, will you decline this offer of grace and total forgiveness? Remember, it’s readily available to you without any conditions. Just believe and trust the Jesus wants you to enjoy eternal life. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

So your god is cool if people rape and murder as long as they have faith?

You know that’s not how it works.

However, atheists are cool
with 100 million innocent people being starved, tortured, and killed by communist states that mandated atheism. I find it really hard to believe you care about people being raped and murdered, because your ideology is World Champion at murder.

I think it’s terrible when any human kills another human. Whether that the 98 million people killed by atheists or the 350 million people killed by religious people from the bubble diagram.

[Anonymous]

Sorry - 94 million from atheists.