APS and new healthcare provider

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Anonymous wrote:We need to do a lot of things to make being a teacher a more attractive profession. 20 years ago loads of people weren’t working from home. I’d recommend to my kids to pick a profession where that may be an option. It we need teachers. We need to incentivize people to become teachers.

We need to hire more teachers and staff for schools. Give teachers time to plan. Leverage teachers knowledge and experience in making decisions for the classrooms. Make teachers and doing what they need to educate the center of school systems. Treat teachers with respect. Loan forgiveness for public service.

Basically the exact opposite of what APS does.

The world has changed. But we will always need good teachers, and we should want (and therefore, attract) the best. The individual teacher has the greatest impact.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

Godamn arguments like this are so shitty.

Like, "how dare you complain and try to make things better you should have known how bad it was"

Fck you

You 100% knew what you were getting yourself into. If you didn’t you’re an idiot and shouldn’t be teaching.

Now off you f#ck.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

Godamn arguments like this are so shitty.

Like, "how dare you complain and try to make things better you should have known how bad it was"

Fck you

You 100% knew what you were getting yourself into. If you didn’t you’re an idiot and shouldn’t be teaching.

Now off you f#ck.

Wow you doubled down. Lmao

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a federal employee, I wanted to chime in on the facebook threads and ask if teachers were urgently writing to their elected officials to advocate for the government not to shut down. How many families in APS would be impacted by a shutdown? That's a major upheaval, but, you don't see parents whining to teachers asking for support.

Ideally, APS would have more than one insurance option available to staff, but, the contracting/procurement/funding is what it is. I understand it's not ideal to have to switch health care providers, but, as numerous people have pointed out, this is routine in the rest of the professional world, and all of us who are not teachers do not get to enjoy summers off to schedule any and every appointment under the sun for ourselves and our families.

as a federal employee how many times have you had your healthcare changed up on you??????? and please do ask your question on the FB page…we’ll be waiting to respond.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

Agree. It’s a tough job. There might be other tough jobs but do any of those get trashed regularly by a-hole parents?

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

Teachers didn’t know they were going to be bullied by a-hole parents.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

+100
Thank you!
Advanced degrees working in nonprofits, too, for another example.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

And you have the option to leave if you are not bringing in the salary you need or want.

And you wonder why we have teacher shortages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to do a lot of things to make being a teacher a more attractive profession. 20 years ago loads of people weren’t working from home. I’d recommend to my kids to pick a profession where that may be an option. It we need teachers. We need to incentivize people to become teachers.

We need to hire more teachers and staff for schools. Give teachers time to plan. Leverage teachers knowledge and experience in making decisions for the classrooms. Make teachers and doing what they need to educate the center of school systems. Treat teachers with respect. Loan forgiveness for public service.

Basically the exact opposite of what APS does.

x1 billion

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Is this where we bash teachers? I hear COVID is back too!

Hi APE!

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

Godamn arguments like this are so shitty.

Like, "how dare you complain and try to make things better you should have known how bad it was"

Fck you

You 100% knew what you were getting yourself into. If you didn’t you’re an idiot and shouldn’t be teaching.

Now off you f#ck.

I doubt PP knew they’d have to deal with POS parents like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought no new initiatives this year?

What are people's definitions of "initiatives?" I see this so often. I took that to mean no new instructional initiatives, not things related to the administration of the school system such as soliciting health insurance contract bids for expired contracts.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

I'm not going to support teachers' ability to teach from home. You are free, as far as I'm concerned, to do your planning and grading from home. Not all jobs are conducive to telework. Maybe you should look farther than to your neighbors.

Other than that, I really don't know what you expect anyone to do about things like your limited lunch and restroom opportunities. Lots of other low-wage hourly jobs don't afford a lot of flexibility for bathroom breaks and lots of workers can't work from home (even higher paid, higher educated employees).

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Depends on the restaurant.
I’m not saying some people don’t make more money doing less but many teachers make the claim that no other job is as inflexible, works as much extra and that’s simply not true. It’s hard. Lots of jobs are hard.

I haven’t heard any teachers say that.

I see it all the time on here and in educator’s groups. Just a few posts up that basically says only healthcare and teachers have it this rough. It’s out of touch

It was in response to someone saying we have it really good because we have the summer off. I’m sick of that. Also, in comparison to similarly educated professionals. I forgot restaurant managers. Okay, maybe them, too.

The point is there are so many other professions where people work very hard for low wages, including “skilled” professions that go unseen. It’s hard in a place like Arlington where there is a lot of wealth on display, but I often see parents over the weekend at kid’s sports taking calls or doing work. We aren’t the only ones struggling. FWIW I never hear career changers make these sort of claims. They might say teaching is the hardest job but don’t make claims about other professions.

What do they do, these educated professionals that are working harder?
And what school do you work at?!

Why would where I work matter?

Clearly the PP is implying you don't know what you're talking about because you're not a teacher.
Apparently attorneys, lobbyists, other executives, etc. don't work as hard even if they work more hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to do a lot of things to make being a teacher a more attractive profession. 20 years ago loads of people weren’t working from home. I’d recommend to my kids to pick a profession where that may be an option. It we need teachers. We need to incentivize people to become teachers.

We need to hire more teachers and staff for schools. Give teachers time to plan. Leverage teachers knowledge and experience in making decisions for the classrooms. Make teachers and doing what they need to educate the center of school systems. Treat teachers with respect. Loan forgiveness for public service.

Basically the exact opposite of what APS does.

Well, you surely aren't helping by advising your children to choose professions that offer WFH options.