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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Depends on the restaurant.
I’m not saying some people don’t make more money doing less but many teachers make the claim that no other job is as inflexible, works as much extra and that’s simply not true. It’s hard. Lots of jobs are hard.

I haven’t heard any teachers say that.

I see it all the time on here and in educator’s groups. Just a few posts up that basically says only healthcare and teachers have it this rough. It’s out of touch

It was in response to someone saying we have it really good because we have the summer off. I’m sick of that. Also, in comparison to similarly educated professionals. I forgot restaurant managers. Okay, maybe them, too.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Depends on the restaurant.
I’m not saying some people don’t make more money doing less but many teachers make the claim that no other job is as inflexible, works as much extra and that’s simply not true. It’s hard. Lots of jobs are hard.

I haven’t heard any teachers say that.

I see it all the time on here and in educator’s groups. Just a few posts up that basically says only healthcare and teachers have it this rough. It’s out of touch

It was in response to someone saying we have it really good because we have the summer off. I’m sick of that. Also, in comparison to similarly educated professionals. I forgot restaurant managers. Okay, maybe them, too.

The point is there are so many other professions where people work very hard for low wages, including “skilled” professions that go unseen. It’s hard in a place like Arlington where there is a lot of wealth on display, but I often see parents over the weekend at kid’s sports taking calls or doing work. We aren’t the only ones struggling. FWIW I never hear career changers make these sort of claims. They might say teaching is the hardest job but don’t make claims about other professions.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Depends on the restaurant.
I’m not saying some people don’t make more money doing less but many teachers make the claim that no other job is as inflexible, works as much extra and that’s simply not true. It’s hard. Lots of jobs are hard.

I haven’t heard any teachers say that.

I see it all the time on here and in educator’s groups. Just a few posts up that basically says only healthcare and teachers have it this rough. It’s out of touch

It was in response to someone saying we have it really good because we have the summer off. I’m sick of that. Also, in comparison to similarly educated professionals. I forgot restaurant managers. Okay, maybe them, too.

The point is there are so many other professions where people work very hard for low wages, including “skilled” professions that go unseen. It’s hard in a place like Arlington where there is a lot of wealth on display, but I often see parents over the weekend at kid’s sports taking calls or doing work. We aren’t the only ones struggling. FWIW I never hear career changers make these sort of claims. They might say teaching is the hardest job but don’t make claims about other professions.

What do they do, these educated professionals that are working harder?
And what school do you work at?!

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Depends on the restaurant.
I’m not saying some people don’t make more money doing less but many teachers make the claim that no other job is as inflexible, works as much extra and that’s simply not true. It’s hard. Lots of jobs are hard.

I haven’t heard any teachers say that.

I see it all the time on here and in educator’s groups. Just a few posts up that basically says only healthcare and teachers have it this rough. It’s out of touch

It was in response to someone saying we have it really good because we have the summer off. I’m sick of that. Also, in comparison to similarly educated professionals. I forgot restaurant managers. Okay, maybe them, too.

The point is there are so many other professions where people work very hard for low wages, including “skilled” professions that go unseen. It’s hard in a place like Arlington where there is a lot of wealth on display, but I often see parents over the weekend at kid’s sports taking calls or doing work. We aren’t the only ones struggling. FWIW I never hear career changers make these sort of claims. They might say teaching is the hardest job but don’t make claims about other professions.

What do they do, these educated professionals that are working harder?
And what school do you work at?!

Why would where I work matter?

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? Because the teachers in APS that I know (including a relative) make more than me, have healthcare through work and have a pension. Not everyone around here in Arlington makes $300k sitting around not doing anything. There’s a lot of jobs besides teachers and healthcare workers that are intense and hard work.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Depends on the restaurant.
I’m not saying some people don’t make more money doing less but many teachers make the claim that no other job is as inflexible, works as much extra and that’s simply not true. It’s hard. Lots of jobs are hard.

I haven’t heard any teachers say that.

I see it all the time on here and in educator’s groups. Just a few posts up that basically says only healthcare and teachers have it this rough. It’s out of touch

It was in response to someone saying we have it really good because we have the summer off. I’m sick of that. Also, in comparison to similarly educated professionals. I forgot restaurant managers. Okay, maybe them, too.

The point is there are so many other professions where people work very hard for low wages, including “skilled” professions that go unseen. It’s hard in a place like Arlington where there is a lot of wealth on display, but I often see parents over the weekend at kid’s sports taking calls or doing work. We aren’t the only ones struggling. FWIW I never hear career changers make these sort of claims. They might say teaching is the hardest job but don’t make claims about other professions.

What do they do, these educated professionals that are working harder?

if you have to work too hard and you are not getting paid what you want teaching there’s always the option to find a different job. not sure arguing with people who also work hard, like teachers, is really going to move your needle.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for one teacher who spoke last night who had some real medical issues that she was dealing with. I hope that Kaiser would work with her to a destinations before the switch.

That said, we have all had to change providers at some point, and I don’t appreciate that some outspoken individuals are complaining to the parents about this. Health insurance issues suck. I get that. However, what they are facing isn’t that uncommon and the hyper Bolic statements about needing sick days just to find doctors makes them look out of touch with reality. I think it’s certain Facebook page draws people to complain about everything and I think it’s actually done more harm to the system and good.

This made me laugh. Young staff I work with get 15 days of PTO plus 8 holidays per year. 23 days of leave for the whole year - this is supposed to cover sick days, vacations, kid's days off from school... whatever. And their health insurance changes companies every few years, too. From the APS leave policy document, it appears that new teachers get at least 14 days of paid leave, another 10 sick days, 5 days at Thanksgiving, 10 at Christmas, and 5 in the spring. I recognize that the pay is commensurate with this much leave, but honestly, to claim that you need more time off to get new doctors is making you sound completely unhinged and really hurting any goodwill that parents would be willing to share with you.

I don’t disagree with your broader point, but where did you get 5 days at Thanksgiving? That is laughable. We have an APS teacher in our family, and I can tell you that they get Thanksgiving, plus 1 day before and 1 afterward.

With the weekend it’s 5 days

OK…. But the weekend isn’t leave.

Omg. Teachers get the weekends off? So lazy.

Didn’t all of the APS teacher bullies leave for private? Why are they still trying to abuse teachers?

I don’t think anyone is bullying teachers. I think they feel teachers are whining about an insurance change. The problem is awareness. The issues APS teachers currently have with central office are so much deeper than that. And no… it does not make it any better that some teachers in this country have it worse.

Yes, go back and re-read. Parents are irrationally complaining that teachers have summers off, etc.

It’s reasonable for teachers to be upset if they have to find all new doctors for their families with little time for transition.

I have BCBS myself and have been scheduling appts for my own family (not even switching doctors) and the next appts for some aren’t until January. This isn’t a trivial problem.

Leave teachers alone FFS. APS parents have already done enough damage.

I empathize with our teachers. I think this admin is doing everything it can to erode the morale and pride of APS teachers. Changing insurance when you like the coverage you have sucks, especially if you're forced to a plan with worse coverage. I don't know that going to BCBS is worse coverage - it all depends on the existing and the potential BCBS plans. Nevertheless, I've never known anybody else going through an insurance change to seek the advocacy of others outside their office/colleagues. It's not like every non-teacher's life is just swimming along without a care and they have time to rally around the teachers' flag every time something happens they don't like. Everybody has crappy management/bosses at times; everybody deals with coworkers dragging them down; everybody deals with less than ideal benefits and health insurance coverage changes and increasing costs; etc.

Support them with letters and statements requesting general respect and professional treatment? OK. Join their fight re what insurance plan they have or how long they have to switch doctors? No. That's for AEA and the workforce for work out. PP says "Leave teachers alone...." You got it!

Exactly this. Yea it’s a PITA to change but things like this happen all the time in the corporate world. You’re not gaining any sympathy with all the whining. You wonder why no one is supporting you-looking at you AEM poster.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

And you have the option to leave if you are not bringing in the salary you need or want.

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Didn’t realize there were so many teachers on here until reading through this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person who keeps talking about my summer off… I wish you could be a fly on the wall for this past month. Do you have any idea how many additional hours we put in? I have worked every evening and weekend for the past month. I fell asleep at 7 last night because I’m so exhausted. I have more education than all of my Arlington neighbors who work from home, take long walks all day, make more than me, and then all tell me how “lucky” I am every summer. It is a choice I made, but it is not cushy. Have some respect. Or hey, join us… we can’t find enough people to do it, cushy gig that it is. Come and join the team.

The insurance thing does not affect me, but I can tell you that teachers in APS are quite rightfully upset. Duran gave all the central office staff an extra three weeks of vacation, and things are not getting done. There are basic things we need, many people that are supposed to support us, and our jobs have become much harder. Huge classes. No funding for field trips. No subs. Difficulty renewing licenses and getting supplies. All as this occurs, an expanding central office.

Now, you have teachers that will have to pay more for insurance. (Don’t just look at rates, look at the deductibles.). It’s like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know anyone who only works for 8 hours a day. A lot of jobs if not most have to work extra which isn’t paid for. That’s kind of how it goes here in America. I don’t know anyone over the age of 25 who isn’t tired from work and life in general.

Those jobs pay a lot better than teaching positions.

Really? I know several restaurant managers making $60K working 12 hour days including weekends and holidays. I am an APS teacher. I know it’s hard work but I hate when teachers assume everyone else makes less money for fewer hours. It’s absolutely untrue. Many people take home work, work more than 40 hours and make less than we do. A good portion of them have advanced degrees too (including some of the people I know in hospitality!)

Do restaurant manager jobs require a college degree?

-parent who knows many people who don’t work nearly as hard and make significantly more than teachers.

Thank you! I mean, I live in Arlington, I look around… my neighbors can work from home, make more money, use the bathroom, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to buy gas… we have to acknowledge these things, or we will not have teachers in the future.

But you knew all that when you went into teaching.

Godamn arguments like this are so shitty.

Like, "how dare you complain and try to make things better you should have known how bad it was"

Fck you

[Anonymous]

*sprints into thread out of breath*

Is this where we bash teachers? I hear COVID is back too!

[Anonymous]

We need to do a lot of things to make being a teacher a more attractive profession. 20 years ago loads of people weren’t working from home. I’d recommend to my kids to pick a profession where that may be an option. It we need teachers. We need to incentivize people to become teachers.

We need to hire more teachers and staff for schools. Give teachers time to plan. Leverage teachers knowledge and experience in making decisions for the classrooms. Make teachers and doing what they need to educate the center of school systems. Treat teachers with respect. Loan forgiveness for public service.

Basically the exact opposite of what APS does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to do a lot of things to make being a teacher a more attractive profession. 20 years ago loads of people weren’t working from home. I’d recommend to my kids to pick a profession where that may be an option. It we need teachers. We need to incentivize people to become teachers.

We need to hire more teachers and staff for schools. Give teachers time to plan. Leverage teachers knowledge and experience in making decisions for the classrooms. Make teachers and doing what they need to educate the center of school systems. Treat teachers with respect. Loan forgiveness for public service.

Basically the exact opposite of what APS does.

THIS exactly.