UPS TO pay drivers $170,000

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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.

This really has gotten your knickers in a twist.
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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


Pffft. Most CEOs aren't worth half their pay. Come on. You can take plenty of Ivy-league educated schmos and put them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company that they then tank. Happens ALL THE TIME. And then they are let go with a golden parachute. Disgusting. CEOs should not be making 500x the salary of their workers. it's disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.

This really has gotten your knickers in a twist.


PP is mad because she has a DUI or something and can’t even get a job driving for UPS.
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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


You're probably on here telling people who make 100k a year that they are the poors. That to live in the DMV area you really need 500k to be middle class.

Seriously why aren't you questioning the pay at the high end of things. Leave those workers alone. If you're so agog at truck drivers making 100k a year plus benefits why don't you sign up for it? Would you trade your career? Why not?
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




They do it because of the part in bold.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


Pffft. Most CEOs aren't worth half their pay. Come on. You can take plenty of Ivy-league educated schmos and put them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company that they then tank. Happens ALL THE TIME. And then they are let go with a golden parachute. Disgusting. CEOs should not be making 500x the salary of their workers. it's disgusting.

Preach!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


Pffft. Most CEOs aren't worth half their pay. Come on. You can take plenty of Ivy-league educated schmos and put them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company that they then tank. Happens ALL THE TIME. And then they are let go with a golden parachute. Disgusting. CEOs should not be making 500x the salary of their workers. it's disgusting.


The stupidity of your post is that you still admit that you need an educated person to run a company, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


You're probably on here telling people who make 100k a year that they are the poors. That to live in the DMV area you really need 500k to be middle class.

Seriously why aren't you questioning the pay at the high end of things. Leave those workers alone. If you're so agog at truck drivers making 100k a year plus benefits why don't you sign up for it? Would you trade your career? Why not?


Again, see what the union did to UPS freight when they demanded outrageous compensation. UPS freight was sold to TFII, who then had to raise prices to cover costs of labor. TFII ended up losing a whole bunch of market share and had to layoff a whole bunch of unionized workers.

This a predictable story. The union extorted outrageous compensation. UPS is now going to have to increase prices that will cause them to be no longer competitive with FedEx, USPS, and regional parcel services. UPS will slowly shrink, and cut down on services that use the most union staff. It will drag UPS into bankruptcy and then thousands of union jobs will be cut. Already happened to TFII.
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And this people is how Doug Heffernan landed Carrie.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


Pffft. Most CEOs aren't worth half their pay. Come on. You can take plenty of Ivy-league educated schmos and put them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company that they then tank. Happens ALL THE TIME. And then they are let go with a golden parachute. Disgusting. CEOs should not be making 500x the salary of their workers. it's disgusting.


The stupidity of your post is that you still admit that you need an educated person to run a company, lol.



You need a person with sense. That doesn't necessarily mean educated. I mean, egads. Historically speaking there have been tons of people doing a great job of running a company who were not "educated."
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.


You're probably on here telling people who make 100k a year that they are the poors. That to live in the DMV area you really need 500k to be middle class.

Seriously why aren't you questioning the pay at the high end of things. Leave those workers alone. If you're so agog at truck drivers making 100k a year plus benefits why don't you sign up for it? Would you trade your career? Why not?


Again, see what the union did to UPS freight when they demanded outrageous compensation. UPS freight was sold to TFII, who then had to raise prices to cover costs of labor. TFII ended up losing a whole bunch of market share and had to layoff a whole bunch of unionized workers.

This a predictable story. The union extorted outrageous compensation. UPS is now going to have to increase prices that will cause them to be no longer competitive with FedEx, USPS, and regional parcel services. UPS will slowly shrink, and cut down on services that use the most union staff. It will drag UPS into bankruptcy and then thousands of union jobs will be cut. Already happened to TFII.


Again, why do you people blame those low in rank and not the ones at the top bringing in tens of millions of dollars? Come off it. No one is worth that much money.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.


Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers.


Many of them still do - we live in a million dollar house and the neighbor on one side is a plumber and the neighbor two doors down is a contractor. I don't think either of them has a college degree, just years of training in their trades. I don't know why you all think college degree is the only worthwhile education, on the job training is also a form of education. UPS drivers or trade, either way.


I would be impressed if you lived in a $3m home with your trades neighbors, $1m kinda a starter home in the dmv these days. Fact is the higher end hoods, you will not find too many working class folks.


If they own their business and have employees, tradespeople can afford 3m homes.
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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


Do you get equally upset with the overpaying of CEOs, upper management and in the banking/finance world?

How much revenue does UPS bring in? Who is responsible for that revenue? The people who do the work of delivering packages and doing a good job of it. Tired of people who think workers have no value.

I bet you don't care how little educated, highly skilled teachers make. So it's not the education and skill that you think deserves the big paycheck. It's how high up you are. Even if you're not the one doing the hard work. Pathetic.


Are you really this dense?

Can you take any schmo off the street and have them play professional level football or basketball with a high degree of performance? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street with no education and throw them into the CEO role of a multibillion dollar company and have them perform that job without tanking the company? No.

Can you take any schmo off the street to push a gas pedal in a truck and lift boxes? Yes.

That's why sports players and CEOs get paid while uneducated, unskilled labor doesn't. There is far more supply of uneducated, unskilled labor, because the jobs are so mindlessly easy.

And yes, teachers should be making more than a UPS truck driver. That is the point - massively overpaying for unskilled, uneducated labor is pure inflation and will kill UPS due to labor costs. Other jobs will demand more salary than even the UPS truck drive, because why should a teacher get paid a lot less and require more education? It just sets off a huge inflationary spiral due to never ending demands for higher wages. In the end purchasing power for teachers and UPS drivers hasn't changed from 20 years ago because inflation has killed all the gains. You just ruined everyone's entire life savings in the process.

The $170,000 figure includes overtime, which is time-and-a-half, holiday pay, which is probably higher than that, and benefits.

If UPS would hire more drivers, the ones they have now wouldn’t be stuck working so much overtime, and would make less money. I bet some of them would like to see their families instead of working until 7 or 8pm, like I see them doing now. I’m sure others depend on the overtime and are fine with it.

It’s ultimately UPS’s fault for not investing in additional trucks and hiring more drivers.
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I just can't believe we live in a country where people still blame the rank and file for problems instead of people at the top.

Is it elitism, delusion, envy? It really boggles the mind...taking the company's side over the union's and workers is so anti-american, I can't even.

I imagine a bunch of robber barons twirling their mustaches evilly and rubbing their hands together while enjoying the ever increasing income gap.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.


Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers.


Many of them still do - we live in a million dollar house and the neighbor on one side is a plumber and the neighbor two doors down is a contractor. I don't think either of them has a college degree, just years of training in their trades. I don't know why you all think college degree is the only worthwhile education, on the job training is also a form of education. UPS drivers or trade, either way.


I would be impressed if you lived in a $3m home with your trades neighbors, $1m kinda a starter home in the dmv these days. Fact is the higher end hoods, you will not find too many working class folks.


If they own their business and have employees, tradespeople can afford 3m homes.

Yup, like my electrician neighbor. The entire family works in the business and they have employees.
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