Underused baby names due for a come back?

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Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.

Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.

In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.

Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.

No-nickname moms are insufferable.

Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.

MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.

No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.

But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.

I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".

PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.

The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.

For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.

You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.

Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.

FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.

I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.

No need to get snarky, little Dick’s mom.

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Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.

Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.

In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.

Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.

No-nickname moms are insufferable.

Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.

MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.

No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.

But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.

I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".

PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.

The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.

For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.

You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.

Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.

FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.

I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.

Based on the verbiage in her previous posts (her writing style is easily identifiable) it seems like her much bigger gripe is being labeled as "controlling" (although, controlling people ARE insufferable & exhausting, so they always go hand-in-hand 😁).

Oh no, you identified my writing style, William Sherlock! I meant Bill, of course. A day well spent, good job.

Any other insights?

You just keep getting funnier.

My kid and I both have classic names we like, with nicknames we like as well. So it works out!

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Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.

Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.

In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.

Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.

No-nickname moms are insufferable.

Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.

MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.

No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.

But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.

I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".

PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.

The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.

For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.

You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.

Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.

FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.

I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.

Based on the verbiage in her previous posts (her writing style is easily identifiable) it seems like her much bigger gripe is being labeled as "controlling" (although, controlling people ARE insufferable & exhausting, so they always go hand-in-hand 😁).

Oh no, you identified my writing style, William Sherlock! I meant Bill, of course. A day well spent, good job.

Any other insights?

You just keep getting funnier.

My kid and I both have classic names we like, with nicknames we like as well. So it works out!

Great to hear something else worked out for you, Flo! Did you use your daily parenthesis limit in the previous message?

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Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.

Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.

In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.

Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.

No-nickname moms are insufferable.

Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.

MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.

No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.

But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.

I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".

PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.

The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.

For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.

You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.

Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.

FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.

I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.

Based on the verbiage in her previous posts (her writing style is easily identifiable) it seems like her much bigger gripe is being labeled as "controlling" (although, controlling people ARE insufferable & exhausting, so they always go hand-in-hand 😁).

Oh no, you identified my writing style, William Sherlock! I meant Bill, of course. A day well spent, good job.

Any other insights?

You just keep getting funnier.

My kid and I both have classic names we like, with nicknames we like as well. So it works out!

Great to hear something else worked out for you, Flo! Did you use your daily parenthesis limit in the previous message?

I'm not that PP, sadly, but I agree with her. Looking at your posts, you use parentheses a lot, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.

Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.

In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.

Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.

No-nickname moms are insufferable.

Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.

MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.

No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.

But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.

I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".

PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.

The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.

For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.

You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.

Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.

FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.

I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.

Based on the verbiage in her previous posts (her writing style is easily identifiable) it seems like her much bigger gripe is being labeled as "controlling" (although, controlling people ARE insufferable & exhausting, so they always go hand-in-hand 😁).

Oh no, you identified my writing style, William Sherlock! I meant Bill, of course. A day well spent, good job.

Any other insights?

You just keep getting funnier.

My kid and I both have classic names we like, with nicknames we like as well. So it works out!

Great to hear something else worked out for you, Flo! Did you use your daily parenthesis limit in the previous message?

I'm not that PP, sadly, but I agree with her. Looking at your posts, you use parentheses a lot, too.

Why are you sad? No parantheses left for you?

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Anonymous wrote:Also consider that the nicknames aren’t popular anymore so we have William (who’s maybe Will or Liam), Daniel, Patrick, Christopher, Geoffrey or Jefferson, Thomas - just to name some examples straight from my life with teens.

Gen Xers with these names would have been Bill or Billy, Dan, Pat or Rick(y), Chris, Jeff and Tom or Tommy.

In my family’s situation, Dad is Bill and son is William.

Yep, I agreed with Daniel on the condition that there will be no nicknames. Seems like the rest of the moms felt the same: Daniel goes to school with Thomas and Gabriel, while my coworkers include Gabe and Tommy.

No-nickname moms are insufferable.

Yes, but inevitably their child winds up with a peer- or self-assigned nickname they HATE, and then spend the rest of their life grinding their teeth and saying “It’s GabRIEL” under her breath when all their sons college friends, his wife, and coworkers just call him Gabe.

MIL? Once again, Brucie or Tommy sounds weird on adult males.

No one is talking about “Brucie” that’s a baby name not a nickname.

But people who name their kids Daniel, Gabriel, Thomas, Victoria, Jessica, etc., and then try to police their own choice to use nicknames like Dan, Gabe, Tom, Vic, Jess, etc. It’s fine if you only want to call your kid by their full name, and if they choose that, great. But if you choose a name with a common nickname you actively don’t like and then militantly try to prevent anyone from using the nickname, it’s just controlling.

I don't call Jess "Jessica" or Dan "Daniel" out of respect for their name choices and preferences, despite my liking the full versions better. It's baffling to me, that expecting respect for my choices is being "just controlling".

PS. I know an adult Brucie, and it's not my place (or yours) to argue whether it's a baby name to not.

The whole point is that once you give your kid a name, THEY get to decide whether the are okay with nicknames or not. Not mommy.

For a child under school age, sure, tell people “it’s Daniel, not Dan.” But after that, it’s up to the kid, and when a mom starts telling his friends and others “no, it’s Daniel,” when actually he is totally cool with Dan and even likes it when his school friends call him that, yes, it’s controlling.

You’re just being argumentative on Bruce— I don’t care either way but either you or another PP brought it up as anocknsme you think sounds bad on an adult. I didn’t dismiss it because I wouldn’t use it if someone old me to, I dismissed it because it’s a ridiculous straw man in a conversation about nicknames, since it’s not even remotely common for people to use it as a nickname on anyone over the age of 2. Which you know.

Whatever. Speaking of strawmen, you made up a scenario and based on it called me insufferable and controlling.

FWIW, the only person who I insisted called my kid Daniel is my DH. Lucky for me, Daniel in question (who is in HS), uses his full name as do his friends.

I’m not the PP who called you insufferable, but I see it’s a sensitive issue for you.

Based on the verbiage in her previous posts (her writing style is easily identifiable) it seems like her much bigger gripe is being labeled as "controlling" (although, controlling people ARE insufferable & exhausting, so they always go hand-in-hand 😁).

Oh no, you identified my writing style, William Sherlock! I meant Bill, of course. A day well spent, good job.

Any other insights?

You just keep getting funnier.

My kid and I both have classic names we like, with nicknames we like as well. So it works out!

Great to hear something else worked out for you, Flo! Did you use your daily parenthesis limit in the previous message?

I'm not that PP, sadly, but I agree with her. Looking at your posts, you use parentheses a lot, too.

Why are you sad? No parentheses left for you?

I misread. You are sad that you are not the same Flo poster. That's a valid concern. If you were the same PP, there would be fewer judgy posters concerned about other people's baby name preferences.

(((I think you are the same poster)))

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Anonymous wrote:Frieda
Tori
Opal
Ova
Ruby
Amber
Ada
Natalie
Kathleen
Barbara
Frances
Francesca
Maureen
Maura
Mayra
Maya
Marisol
Krista
Bridgette

I was looking for Amber. that my name, and I haven't heard a baby named Amber in a while. With the current trends of hippy names you would think it would come back. Even the song Amber is trending on TikTok as a sound.

I like Amber I also like Jade.

I think some have a stripper association with these 2, for whatever reason

Stripper don't use just those two names.

They intentionally pick feminine sounding name that are derived from crystals & gems, because they associating them with beautiful, sparkly, expensive, exotic, glimmering, shimmery, glitzy looking gemstones & crystals.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of those names sound cheap & trashy, as opposed to associating them with class & elegance.

Here are some examples...

Amber
Jade
Amethyst
Jem/Jemma
Crystal
Topaz
Diamond /Diamante
Sapphire
Jewel
Coral
Emerald
Ivory
Onyx
Ruby
Aquamarine
Shale

I'm with you though, I really do love the name Jade, though.

Shale!! Now I want to meet someone named Basalt. Or Scree!

I don't like the name Jade, because a jade is an old, worn-out horse, or an old, worn-out prostitute.

to each their own

I still like the name Jade. We actually have a little Jade in our extended family, and I HATE that this board made me first think "oh, dear - lots of people hear stripper name" when I first heard it when she was born. She's adorable and the name is adorable too.

I also think Coral is cute.

And while I probably wouldn't use it at this point, I had a sorority sister named Crystal who became a doctor. We met at school in NC and she was this area (I didn't grow up in the DC metro) I will always think of her and NOT strippers.

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Vincent

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Kayla

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Anonymous wrote:I also love Neil

me too

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Judith

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Anonymous wrote:Vincent

Vincent was #123 in 2022!

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Anonymous wrote:Allison
Daniela
Melissa
Marisa
Dawn
Samantha
Amanda
Kelly

Boy names are so much harder!

Rudy
Dominic
Lawrence
Cody
Cory
Sean
Greg

I like a lot of these! My neighborhood is pretty Irish-American, so there are always a lot of Seans. And actually, more Kellys than you would think, for both boys and girls.

My husband comes from an Irish American family from Chicago. His family and his cousins read like the roll call from an Andrew Greeley novel: Sean, Patrick, Robbie, Danny, Kelly, Molly, Bridget, Kathleen, Eileen, Deirdre, Brendon, Rosie

Heh! I grew up in Chicago too. This list reads like the class rosters at my Catholic high school!

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I love Barbara. It's my paternal Grandma's name AND my mom's name. I wanted to name our 2016-born daughter Barbara. DH nixed it under the declaration that our daughter would hate us for life if we "saddled" her with such a name

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Anonymous wrote:Vincent

Vincent was #123 in 2022!

DP but I still really like it and don't hear it for kids much (or at all? don't think I've met a Vincent or Vince).

To be honest, there's such diversity in names at this point that once you are outside the top 10-20, it's hard to argue a name is overused. Ocasionally there's a geographic micro trend where you meet a bunch of kids with a name that is not technically a "top" name but for some reason extremely popular where you live (in recent years, my neighborhood/wider circle in DC has been enamored of the names Beatrice, Thea, and both Finn and Finley, none of which are hugely popular on the SSN list). But I bet when those kids move outside where they grew up, their names won't feel common. Meanwhile, I haven't met a single Emma, Sophia, or Olivia under the age of 6, despite those being the most popular names.

I guess my point is that a name can be #123 on the list and still feel underused, because to some degree all names are underused, in that people just use a wider variety of names than they once did. I don't think it's possible for a kid born today to feel the way Jasons and Jessicas felt in the 80s and 90s, where it seemed like their names were ubiquitous.