After all the drama, Big3 college admissions are really as strong as ever this year

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

Which school? B and S seem to be doing as well as ever this year

C. My friend is upset. Daughter did not get into too 8 choices. Another only got into 2 schools. It’s crazy

Going to an expensive private school doesn’t entitle you to a particular admissions outcome.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

Which school? B and S seem to be doing as well as ever this year

C. My friend is upset. Daughter did not get into too 8 choices. Another only got into 2 schools. It’s crazy

How were their grades? Were they top third of the class at least?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.

Those are almost entirely hooked kids. They are almost to a person some combination of big-time legacy, super wealthy, VIPs, etc.
Those kids would have had the same college outcome from any high school in America.
They're smart kids but it had nothing to do with any particular Maret magic.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

Which school? B and S seem to be doing as well as ever this year

C. My friend is upset. Daughter did not get into too 8 choices. Another only got into 2 schools. It’s crazy

How were their grades? Were they top third of the class at least?

I don’t know their ranking. They got into great schools. Just not Ivy League schools. I expected more as did they apparently. They also spoke of another graduate shut out of all but two schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

Which school? B and S seem to be doing as well as ever this year

C. My friend is upset. Daughter did not get into too 8 choices. Another only got into 2 schools. It’s crazy

Going to an expensive private school doesn’t entitle you to a particular admissions outcome.

No but the privates are definitely selling college admissions outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

There are about 20,000 public high schools in the US. How could the valedictorian of every single one get into an Ivy?

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

There are about 20,000 public high schools in the US. How could the valedictorian of every single one get into an Ivy?

TOP ranked public school in a major state. I’m sorry, the hard work this child put in was incredible. Doesn’t seem right. I know this is life. Hate to see it though.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

There are about 20,000 public high schools in the US. How could the valedictorian of every single one get into an Ivy?

TOP ranked public school in a major state. I’m sorry, the hard work this child put in was incredible. Doesn’t seem right. I know this is life. Hate to see it though.

+1
I'm sorry for your friend's daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

There are about 20,000 public high schools in the US. How could the valedictorian of every single one get into an Ivy?

TOP ranked public school in a major state. I’m sorry, the hard work this child put in was incredible. Doesn’t seem right. I know this is life. Hate to see it though.

“Top ranked public school” = rich kid school in the eyes of AOs, and I’m shocked that you would think being valedictorian or having good grades is enough to get into an Ivy. It’s necessary to get your application read seriously, but nowhere near sufficient. There are 20,000 valedictorians/year. Someone advised you poorly.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

There are about 20,000 public high schools in the US. How could the valedictorian of every single one get into an Ivy?

TOP ranked public school in a major state. I’m sorry, the hard work this child put in was incredible. Doesn’t seem right. I know this is life. Hate to see it though.

It’s high school. Spare me.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think everyone got where they really wanted you are wrong. There’s a lot of very disappointed family with awesome high achieving kids who were not urm or hooked that are sorely disappointed.

Welcome to 2023. It is what it is. The priorities given to UMC white kids that has permeated for the past two centuries is no longer. The sooner people adapt to that fact, the better.

NYC parent here. Not sure what’s going on but I was stunned to see that a top private girls school did not do so great based upon my anecdotal conversations. Like shockingly not great. Including URM’s.

Middle school parent here. When did college become so hard to get into?

It has become increasingly hard for upper middle class "regular" white kids because of the proliferation of international, first generation and under represented minority applicants.

Also, the Common Application and Test Optional has lowered barriers for applicants to toss in submissions to many more schools with the push of a button and no additional effort.

The general barriers to entry, writ large, is a good thing, but is an eye-opener for parents who went through the process before 2015 or so, and particularly since COVID.

I was responding to this. I’m the NYC parent. Bottom line, it’s harder for everyone to get into these schools. Speaking as an URM that is in a community with many other URM, I’m not seeing the results I would expect URM at top private schools to get after having attended private schools for so many years. Could be a recent trend. I don’t know. Something is different.

Which nyc school? This doesn’t seem to be true of dalton at all. Is it different at the other top Nyc schools?

I’m going to assume Trinity, Dalton , Brearley still have great outcomes. I am only speaking anecdotally based upon one school. However, I’ve noticed over the years that schools I remember as being safety schools are all of a sudden hard to get into. Just dropping my little bit of info here.

A good friend who is Asian has a child that was valedictorian from a great public school …did not get into a single Ivy. They did get into what I believe is a top 20 but I was shocked. The family is not hooked in any way. Seems so unfair.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Public school parent of a pretty average white boy with fun ECs ping pong, ultimate, student govt, fundraisers all mid-level leadership roles, straight A's MCPS style, who paid zero for a very good education. Sure occasionally bathroom doors were locked, and he didn't make his school soccer team. His one plus is he got to apply as Princeton's legacy thanks to his dad. He is not a "remarkable" kid compared to some of his private school friends - one in particular who comes to mind is a great kid whose son did outward bound summers, volunteering in South America during breaks, and accomplished musician who will NOT be joining him in an Ivy league this year. I feel like we made a great choice and wanted to add this as a perspective. It's been tough for ALL kids with covid and for those of you on the fence about continuing private, I promise it is not so bad. He also has a friend group going to very similar schools as the private lists. And many will go to community college. We applied him for private in 9th and he got all waitlists for the top 3 he wanted. He did get into Field, Landon, and Bullis but we decided to "try" his public. Again, just a different view that I wanted to share.

He went to Princeton?

He is going in the Fall. And when I say "try public" we felt like if it was not giving him the education & environment we thought best, then we would re-apply.