DC Begins School Boundary Study

[Anonymous]

Real equity would actually mean more tracking and more specialized programs, not less.

True equity means a school meeting each child wherever they are and giving them whatever the best tools are they need to succeed.

So for one student that might be an advanced math class, whereas for another it could be special pullout to help them catch up on basic skills. But no matter whether a student is at the 10th percentile or 90th percentile, if they're all equally able to progress by what is their own individual maximum potential, that's true equity in education.

[Anonymous]

I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right now we are only 4 years into the opening of Wells and the renovation of Coolidge. Plus Covid messed up everything for a couple of years. Wells has 2 teachers in every core classroom making more differentiation possible. This helps support strong students as well as below level students. Enrollment in feeder elementary is increasing with more inbound participation to fill in space vacated by 6-8 grade classrooms. I have no illusions that everything is amazing but there is definitely good reason to believe that things are moving in the right direction.

I’m less worried about HS since there are enough application options (including the new early college program at Coolidge that is just ramping up) unlike MS.

It’s ok for others not to share the optimism but it’s not like nothing has changed for 10 years and people are saying it will change now with no basis for that belief.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

But making schools pro gentrifier would be anti equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Where do the black families IB for Bancroft go? To the English alternative DCPS? It’s not like there aren’t black families in the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

But making schools pro gentrifier would be anti equity.

Why pray tell are Ward 4 and 5 gentrifier schools and Wards 1 and 3 are not? Is it the melanin? Something in the water?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

But making schools pro gentrifier would be anti equity.

What's this nonsense. "Gentrifiers" are just humans who purchased homes they could afford and who now have families and children who need to be educated. They are also often people who are comfortable being a minority as a white person and are open to sending their kids to schools that are diverse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Are you making the point to keep Bancroft as part of the Deal pyramid since it’s numbers are inconsequential? I agree there needs to be an option for kids who don’t want to continue in immersion. Bancroft makes sense as a dual language school given its demographics, but it is doesn’t make sense to force people into ongoing immersion based on their address.

[Anonymous]

i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

But making schools pro gentrifier would be anti equity.

What's this nonsense. "Gentrifiers" are just humans who purchased homes they could afford and who now have families and children who need to be educated. They are also often people who are comfortable being a minority as a white person and are open to sending their kids to schools that are diverse.

Educate yourself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Are you making the point to keep Bancroft as part of the Deal pyramid since it’s numbers are inconsequential? I agree there needs to be an option for kids who don’t want to continue in immersion. Bancroft makes sense as a dual language school given its demographics, but it is doesn’t make sense to force people into ongoing immersion based on their address.

What immersion school would they being forced into? There is no immersion MS in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

But making schools pro gentrifier would be anti equity.

What's this nonsense. "Gentrifiers" are just humans who purchased homes they could afford and who now have families and children who need to be educated. They are also often people who are comfortable being a minority as a white person and are open to sending their kids to schools that are diverse.

Educate yourself

That's some serious SJW, preying on white guilt nonsense. The word is loaded and you can't have a meaningful conversation about anything until you agree on definitions and goals. The time when you could pull that crap and people would cower and scream "ally" is thankfully over.

You wanna engage in a discussion about education and equity and race? I'm here for it. You wanna scream easy slogans that mean nothing and try and intimidate people whose opinions and words you devalue from the jump? Take it somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.