DC Begins School Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Are you making the point to keep Bancroft as part of the Deal pyramid since it’s numbers are inconsequential? I agree there needs to be an option for kids who don’t want to continue in immersion. Bancroft makes sense as a dual language school given its demographics, but it is doesn’t make sense to force people into ongoing immersion based on their address.

What immersion school would they being forced into? There is no immersion MS in DC.

People meant bilingual. Macfarland is the bilingual feeder for DCPS bilingual schools-Powell and Bruce Monroe

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I say just stop over-intake into Ward 3 and focus on the schools east of there. The gentrifier schools. Make them gentrifier friendly. They have students from all over when they could be another version of the Ward 3 schools if the city just made them little islands for Ward 1 and 4 gentrifier parents. So put a honors test in academy at Roosevelt. Make it harder than JR. Recruit through testing. Once that’s five years in place, make the program more flexible/less didconnected from the existing comprehensive school.

Watch it become much more desirable and less a school of last resort. Then eventually we will have a more flexible school system with MacArthur, Roosevelt, JR and Coolidge as places for mixed application and non application programs and overall better achievement. But it will come at the cost of inequitably catering to the whims of the gentrifier over the needs of the poor first. But integration is important to resolving the rhe needs of the poor in DC.

I say this having thought of many more just sounding ways to do it. But you have to induce these high income parents to send kids to a low income school before it will ever integrate, they will not volunteer and will move/choose to avoid schools of last resort. Someday a more just America will call this a shame but I think we need better in our lifetime rather than waiting for the best to happen by magic.

But making schools pro gentrifier would be anti equity.

What's this nonsense. "Gentrifiers" are just humans who purchased homes they could afford and who now have families and children who need to be educated. They are also often people who are comfortable being a minority as a white person and are open to sending their kids to schools that are diverse.

Educate yourself

That's some serious SJW, preying on white guilt nonsense. The word is loaded and you can't have a meaningful conversation about anything until you agree on definitions and goals. The time when you could pull that crap and people would cower and scream "ally" is thankfully over.

You wanna engage in a discussion about education and equity and race? I'm here for it. You wanna scream easy slogans that mean nothing and try and intimidate people whose opinions and words you devalue from the jump? Take it somewhere else.

I'm more happy to have an educated discussion once you stop screaming down other voices you find uncomfortable. You're poisoning the conversation with all your labeling and name calling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Are you making the point to keep Bancroft as part of the Deal pyramid since it’s numbers are inconsequential? I agree there needs to be an option for kids who don’t want to continue in immersion. Bancroft makes sense as a dual language school given its demographics, but it is doesn’t make sense to force people into ongoing immersion based on their address.

What immersion school would they being forced into? There is no immersion MS in DC.

People meant bilingual. Macfarland is the bilingual feeder for DCPS bilingual schools-Powell and Bruce Monroe

A previous poster mentioned Columbia Heights Education Campus, too, which bills itself as dual language immersion.

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Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

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Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

I think it is unlikely that there will be a split feeder (ie that some kids who are IB for Lafayette are sent to Wells and others to Deal). A big part of the last boundary process was eliminating split geographic feeders--there are some programmatic splits for schools that have dual-language and monolingual programs. However, I could see them redrawing the Lafayette boundary so some kids are zoned for schools that keep the Deal feed, and the kids who remain IB for Lafayette would have Wells as their destination school.

If I had to guess what will happen, the recommendation will be to shift Lafayette and Shepherd to Wells. Lafayette parents will be louder and get their school to stay IB for Deal. Then Shepherd + people who care about Deal/JR's racial makeup not getting whiter will start to complain about that, and with MacArthur providing a release valve, they'll leave things as they are. Deal will stay overcrowded, though some slight boundary tweaks and removing Bancroft from the feeder will help a bit with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

People forget…Lafayette is the largest elementary in DC. Wherever you move it, you are taking in a huge amount of kids. At over 120 kids per grade, it could almost fill its own middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

People forget…Lafayette is the largest elementary in DC. Wherever you move it, you are taking in a huge amount of kids. At over 120 kids per grade, it could almost fill its own middle school.

Wells is not prepared to absorb Lafayette as a feeder. I can see taking in Shepard. I assume the new housing in Walter Reed that is just coming online now will feed Wells via Takoma Elem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

People forget…Lafayette is the largest elementary in DC. Wherever you move it, you are taking in a huge amount of kids. At over 120 kids per grade, it could almost fill its own middle school.

Maybe it should just become a k-8??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Are you making the point to keep Bancroft as part of the Deal pyramid since it’s numbers are inconsequential? I agree there needs to be an option for kids who don’t want to continue in immersion. Bancroft makes sense as a dual language school given its demographics, but it is doesn’t make sense to force people into ongoing immersion based on their address.

What immersion school would they being forced into? There is no immersion MS in DC.

People meant bilingual. Macfarland is the bilingual feeder for DCPS bilingual schools-Powell and Bruce Monroe

So does Raymond. Show me where it mentions MacFarland being a bilingual school on their website or the DCPS profile.

https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/MacFarland+Middle+School

https://www.macfarlandmsdc.org/home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in the Bancroft boundary and it is hard to imagine that the school won't stay majority Latino. There are tons of large apartment buildings on 16th street that house a lot of immigrant families. And they far outnumber the rowhouses in the neighborhood.

This is true, but when thinking about feeder patterns Bancroft doesn’t bring much diversity to Deal. Many of of Latino families living in the apartments in 16th send their kids to CHEC which is literally across the street rather than 4 miles away. Others head to McFarland.

Also, Bancroft is 4% African American. That is shocking for a Ward 1 school. Every Ward 3 school has a higher percentage except Oyster which is 3.7%.

Are you making the point to keep Bancroft as part of the Deal pyramid since it’s numbers are inconsequential? I agree there needs to be an option for kids who don’t want to continue in immersion. Bancroft makes sense as a dual language school given its demographics, but it is doesn’t make sense to force people into ongoing immersion based on their address.

What immersion school would they being forced into? There is no immersion MS in DC.

People meant bilingual. Macfarland is the bilingual feeder for DCPS bilingual schools-Powell and Bruce Monroe

So does Raymond. Show me where it mentions MacFarland being a bilingual school on their website or the DCPS profile.

https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/MacFarland+Middle+School

https://www.macfarlandmsdc.org/home

All of the bilingual DCPS have a programmatic feed into MacFarland Spanish, except OA.

[Anonymous]

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

I think it is unlikely that there will be a split feeder (ie that some kids who are IB for Lafayette are sent to Wells and others to Deal). A big part of the last boundary process was eliminating split geographic feeders--there are some programmatic splits for schools that have dual-language and monolingual programs. However, I could see them redrawing the Lafayette boundary so some kids are zoned for schools that keep the Deal feed, and the kids who remain IB for Lafayette would have Wells as their destination school.

If I had to guess what will happen, the recommendation will be to shift Lafayette and Shepherd to Wells. Lafayette parents will be louder and get their school to stay IB for Deal. Then Shepherd + people who care about Deal/JR's racial makeup not getting whiter will start to complain about that, and with MacArthur providing a release valve, they'll leave things as they are. Deal will stay overcrowded, though some slight boundary tweaks and removing Bancroft from the feeder will help a bit with that.

The split feeders are a problem for the immersion schools as well. You can’t have a real immersion middle school when half the feeder schools are not immersion elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

Maybe so but I don’t think DCPS is going to make waves like that. But I’ll buy you a drink if you’re right!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

I think it is unlikely that there will be a split feeder (ie that some kids who are IB for Lafayette are sent to Wells and others to Deal). A big part of the last boundary process was eliminating split geographic feeders--there are some programmatic splits for schools that have dual-language and monolingual programs. However, I could see them redrawing the Lafayette boundary so some kids are zoned for schools that keep the Deal feed, and the kids who remain IB for Lafayette would have Wells as their destination school.

If I had to guess what will happen, the recommendation will be to shift Lafayette and Shepherd to Wells. Lafayette parents will be louder and get their school to stay IB for Deal. Then Shepherd + people who care about Deal/JR's racial makeup not getting whiter will start to complain about that, and with MacArthur providing a release valve, they'll leave things as they are. Deal will stay overcrowded, though some slight boundary tweaks and removing Bancroft from the feeder will help a bit with that.

The split feeders are a problem for the immersion schools as well. You can’t have a real immersion middle school when half the feeder schools are not immersion elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it would be a huge long-term mistake not to zone the deal feeders that are closer to the new wells middle school to wells

Isn’t Shepherd the only one?

Lafayette is 10 minutes.

Dude, they’re not moving Lafayette.

They have talked about rerouting a percentage of Lafayette. Which, dude, is a sound idea.

People forget…Lafayette is the largest elementary in DC. Wherever you move it, you are taking in a huge amount of kids. At over 120 kids per grade, it could almost fill its own middle school.

Wells is not prepared to absorb Lafayette as a feeder. I can see taking in Shepard. I assume the new housing in Walter Reed that is just coming online now will feed Wells via Takoma Elem.

They can absorb Shepherd and 1/2 Lafayette.