New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you feel the need to criticize my lifestyle as though yours is better? It has been explained about a hundred times why people actually NEED to travel by car so I'm not going to llst all the reasons again and you probably don't care anyway. Do you think cars are just going to disappear from the roads tomorrow? Not going to happen. So stop being so selfish and think for a minute about others. And the best part of your post is that YOU actually need to use a car for certain things out of necessity. Get off your high horse.

DP. Likewise, people actually NEED to travel by bus, by walking, by wheelchair, by bicycle. Do you think bus riders, pedestrians, people who use wheelchairs, bicyclists are just going to disappear from the roads tomorrow? Not going to happen. So stop being so selfish and think for a minute about others. Especially others who are not sitting comfortably in their personal protected climate-controlled entertainment system on wheels.

How do these bike lanes improve the transportation experience for bus riders?

By

1. slowing the cars
2. keeping fast-moving cars further away from the bus stops
3. keeping fast-moving cars further away from the sidewalks people use to get to the bus stops
4. reducing the number of car lanes people have to cross to get to or from the bus stops

I don't know whether you know that a woman was killed crossing Old Georgetown Road in December 2019. She was from Sri Lanka, worked as a nanny, and was walking to the bus stop after work.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/i-miss-her-sister-mourns-woman-hit-and-killed-while-crossing-bethesda-road/167507/

Slowing the cars also slows the buses which makes travel time on the bus even longer.

No, it doesn't. Slowing the cars reduces SPEEDING. Travel time on the bus is mostly a factor of frequent stops and back-ups among one-person cars. I'd be happy to support bus-only lanes on Old Georgetown Road, though. Would you? That would speed up the bus route.

You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you feel the need to criticize my lifestyle as though yours is better? It has been explained about a hundred times why people actually NEED to travel by car so I'm not going to llst all the reasons again and you probably don't care anyway. Do you think cars are just going to disappear from the roads tomorrow? Not going to happen. So stop being so selfish and think for a minute about others. And the best part of your post is that YOU actually need to use a car for certain things out of necessity. Get off your high horse.

DP. Likewise, people actually NEED to travel by bus, by walking, by wheelchair, by bicycle. Do you think bus riders, pedestrians, people who use wheelchairs, bicyclists are just going to disappear from the roads tomorrow? Not going to happen. So stop being so selfish and think for a minute about others. Especially others who are not sitting comfortably in their personal protected climate-controlled entertainment system on wheels.

How do these bike lanes improve the transportation experience for bus riders?

By

1. slowing the cars
2. keeping fast-moving cars further away from the bus stops
3. keeping fast-moving cars further away from the sidewalks people use to get to the bus stops
4. reducing the number of car lanes people have to cross to get to or from the bus stops

I don't know whether you know that a woman was killed crossing Old Georgetown Road in December 2019. She was from Sri Lanka, worked as a nanny, and was walking to the bus stop after work.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/i-miss-her-sister-mourns-woman-hit-and-killed-while-crossing-bethesda-road/167507/

Slowing the cars also slows the buses which makes travel time on the bus even longer.

No, it doesn't. Slowing the cars reduces SPEEDING. Travel time on the bus is mostly a factor of frequent stops and back-ups among one-person cars. I'd be happy to support bus-only lanes on Old Georgetown Road, though. Would you? That would speed up the bus route.

What I see messing the buses up more than anything is people double-parking or parking in the designated bus stops.

There was never any double parking on Old Georgetown Road where they put in the bike lanes because there was no parking on Old Georgetown Road in the first place. Further, there was never a need for a car to stop on Old Georgetown Road because every business thanks to good county planning and foresight from a couple generations ago has a parking lot. Thanks for demonstrating that you are not from the area, don’t know what you are talking about and are lying.

What a weird thing to do though, you know. Go on the internet to anonymously lie about a place that you haven’t been to and don’t know anything about. Maybe you should go get some hobbies or something.

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You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

[Anonymous]

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You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you feel the need to criticize my lifestyle as though yours is better? It has been explained about a hundred times why people actually NEED to travel by car so I'm not going to llst all the reasons again and you probably don't care anyway. Do you think cars are just going to disappear from the roads tomorrow? Not going to happen. So stop being so selfish and think for a minute about others. And the best part of your post is that YOU actually need to use a car for certain things out of necessity. Get off your high horse.

DP. Likewise, people actually NEED to travel by bus, by walking, by wheelchair, by bicycle. Do you think bus riders, pedestrians, people who use wheelchairs, bicyclists are just going to disappear from the roads tomorrow? Not going to happen. So stop being so selfish and think for a minute about others. Especially others who are not sitting comfortably in their personal protected climate-controlled entertainment system on wheels.

How do these bike lanes improve the transportation experience for bus riders?

By

1. slowing the cars
2. keeping fast-moving cars further away from the bus stops
3. keeping fast-moving cars further away from the sidewalks people use to get to the bus stops
4. reducing the number of car lanes people have to cross to get to or from the bus stops

I don't know whether you know that a woman was killed crossing Old Georgetown Road in December 2019. She was from Sri Lanka, worked as a nanny, and was walking to the bus stop after work.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/i-miss-her-sister-mourns-woman-hit-and-killed-while-crossing-bethesda-road/167507/

Slowing the cars also slows the buses which makes travel time on the bus even longer.

No, it doesn't. Slowing the cars reduces SPEEDING. Travel time on the bus is mostly a factor of frequent stops and back-ups among one-person cars. I'd be happy to support bus-only lanes on Old Georgetown Road, though. Would you? That would speed up the bus route.

What I see messing the buses up more than anything is people double-parking or parking in the designated bus stops.

Where have you seen this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

I am not the PP who talked about cars parked at bus stops, which is actually a common thing, just not specifically on Old Georgetown Road. As for safety: would you rather

-cross six lanes of speeding cars to wait at a bus stop inches from speeding cars and trucks, or
-cross four lanes of cars going at a slower speed to wait at a bus stop with at least 10 feet of space between you and speeding cars and trucks?

I know which I would find safer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

I am not the PP who talked about cars parked at bus stops, which is actually a common thing, just not specifically on Old Georgetown Road. As for safety: would you rather

-cross six lanes of speeding cars to wait at a bus stop inches from speeding cars and trucks, or
-cross four lanes of cars going at a slower speed to wait at a bus stop with at least 10 feet of space between you and speeding cars and trucks?

I know which I would find safer.

Crossing at a stop light it doesn’t make a difference. You clearly don’t walk very much or take transit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

I am not the PP who talked about cars parked at bus stops, which is actually a common thing, just not specifically on Old Georgetown Road. As for safety: would you rather

-cross six lanes of speeding cars to wait at a bus stop inches from speeding cars and trucks, or
-cross four lanes of cars going at a slower speed to wait at a bus stop with at least 10 feet of space between you and speeding cars and trucks?

I know which I would find safer.

Quite convenient that it’s just some random other person posting b.s. when there’s only 22 people online posting on this whole website right now. Again, why lie?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

I am not the PP who talked about cars parked at bus stops, which is actually a common thing, just not specifically on Old Georgetown Road. As for safety: would you rather

-cross six lanes of speeding cars to wait at a bus stop inches from speeding cars and trucks, or
-cross four lanes of cars going at a slower speed to wait at a bus stop with at least 10 feet of space between you and speeding cars and trucks?

I know which I would find safer.

Crossing at a stop light it doesn’t make a difference. You clearly don’t walk very much or take transit.

Who said anything about stop lights? I agree (if that's your point) that people are also being killed while crossing to the bus stop, or from the bus stop, at traffic signals. In addition to bus stops without traffic signals, which there are a lot of. I honestly don't understand any claim that it's safer for people to cross more lanes with faster cars compared to fewer lanes with slower cars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

I am not the PP who talked about cars parked at bus stops, which is actually a common thing, just not specifically on Old Georgetown Road. As for safety: would you rather

-cross six lanes of speeding cars to wait at a bus stop inches from speeding cars and trucks, or
-cross four lanes of cars going at a slower speed to wait at a bus stop with at least 10 feet of space between you and speeding cars and trucks?

I know which I would find safer.

Crossing at a stop light it doesn’t make a difference. You clearly don’t walk very much or take transit.

Who said anything about stop lights? I agree (if that's your point) that people are also being killed while crossing to the bus stop, or from the bus stop, at traffic signals. In addition to bus stops without traffic signals, which there are a lot of. I honestly don't understand any claim that it's safer for people to cross more lanes with faster cars compared to fewer lanes with slower cars.

Where are the crossings without traffic signals?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said that this is a benefit to bus riders but it fact it makes bus service demonstrably worse. How can the buses go faster when all of the travel lanes now have to go slower? What bus riders care about is safe, reliable and efficient service. The bike lanes make bus service obviously and demonstrably worse.

Maybe if they had a dedicated bus lane instead of a bike lane then what you are posting would make even a modicum of sense. But you’re just making sh*t up at this point.

What bus riders care about is SAFE, reliable, and efficient service. You said it. Fortunately, the Old Georgetown Road safety improvements will make Old Georgetown Road safer for bus riders. I'm fine with shared bike/bus lanes on Old Georgetown Road, but the drivers who are screaming "why are they taking my lanes away, I never see anybody using those lanes that used to be mine" now would scream just as much about shared bike/bus lanes.

They will not do anything for safety. You are just making things up. It has already been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about because you claimed that cars are double parked at bus stops.

I am not the PP who talked about cars parked at bus stops, which is actually a common thing, just not specifically on Old Georgetown Road. As for safety: would you rather

-cross six lanes of speeding cars to wait at a bus stop inches from speeding cars and trucks, or
-cross four lanes of cars going at a slower speed to wait at a bus stop with at least 10 feet of space between you and speeding cars and trucks?

I know which I would find safer.

Crossing at a stop light it doesn’t make a difference. You clearly don’t walk very much or take transit.

Who said anything about stop lights? I agree (if that's your point) that people are also being killed while crossing to the bus stop, or from the bus stop, at traffic signals. In addition to bus stops without traffic signals, which there are a lot of. I honestly don't understand any claim that it's safer for people to cross more lanes with faster cars compared to fewer lanes with slower cars.

Where are the crossings without traffic signals?

Good grief. “Double parked cars”. “Cars parked in bus stops”. “Crossings without traffic signals”.

I’m beginning to suspect this person doesn’t live in the area and is just making sh*t up.

[Anonymous]

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Where are the crossings without traffic signals?

On Old Georgetown Road specifically, or generally? Generally, they're all over the county. You should start noticing them as you drive by. People who ride the bus know where they are. On Old Georgetown Road specifically, at Sedgewick, Roseland, Bells Mill, Kingswood (where the nanny was killed), Spruce Tree, Alta Vista, Glenwood, Maple Ridge, N. Brook, Glenbrook, and now we're in downtown Bethesda. And that doesn't even include the bus stops where you have to backtrack to cross at a signal, speaking of inconvenience and delay.

There will also be bus stops for Woodward, but there might be a traffic signal there, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Where are the crossings without traffic signals?

On Old Georgetown Road specifically, or generally? Generally, they're all over the county. You should start noticing them as you drive by. People who ride the bus know where they are. On Old Georgetown Road specifically, at Sedgewick, Roseland, Bells Mill, Kingswood (where the nanny was killed), Spruce Tree, Alta Vista, Glenwood, Maple Ridge, N. Brook, Glenbrook, and now we're in downtown Bethesda. And that doesn't even include the bus stops where you have to backtrack to cross at a signal, speaking of inconvenience and delay.

There will also be bus stops for Woodward, but there might be a traffic signal there, too.

Are you kidding me? None of the actual intersections mentioned are in the are where they have installed the bike lanes. Second, for the couple streets mentioned in the area where they have installed the bike lanes they are not intersections. Thanks for playing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where are the crossings without traffic signals?

On Old Georgetown Road specifically, or generally? Generally, they're all over the county. You should start noticing them as you drive by. People who ride the bus know where they are. On Old Georgetown Road specifically, at Sedgewick, Roseland, Bells Mill, Kingswood (where the nanny was killed), Spruce Tree, Alta Vista, Glenwood, Maple Ridge, N. Brook, Glenbrook, and now we're in downtown Bethesda. And that doesn't even include the bus stops where you have to backtrack to cross at a signal, speaking of inconvenience and delay.

There will also be bus stops for Woodward, but there might be a traffic signal there, too.

Are you kidding me? None of the actual intersections mentioned are in the are where they have installed the bike lanes. Second, for the couple streets mentioned in the area where they have installed the bike lanes they are not intersections. Thanks for playing.

I’m beginning to suspect this person doesn’t live in the area and is just making sh*t up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where are the crossings without traffic signals?

On Old Georgetown Road specifically, or generally? Generally, they're all over the county. You should start noticing them as you drive by. People who ride the bus know where they are. On Old Georgetown Road specifically, at Sedgewick, Roseland, Bells Mill, Kingswood (where the nanny was killed), Spruce Tree, Alta Vista, Glenwood, Maple Ridge, N. Brook, Glenbrook, and now we're in downtown Bethesda. And that doesn't even include the bus stops where you have to backtrack to cross at a signal, speaking of inconvenience and delay.

There will also be bus stops for Woodward, but there might be a traffic signal there, too.

Are you kidding me? None of the actual intersections mentioned are in the are where they have installed the bike lanes. Second, for the couple streets mentioned in the area where they have installed the bike lanes they are not intersections. Thanks for playing.

That's just factually incorrect, and you're shifting the goal posts, too. The fact is that the bike lanes will also make the road safer for pedestrians and bus riders. In fact, they will even make the road safer for you, as you drive.