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Anonymous wrote:My dyslexic child is in AAP and reads at grade level (and probably has better reading comprehension than the one lady's 4th grader). I'm just saying. Not everything fits into your neat little buckets. Not everything is about money (lady who things OG and phonics instruction is just about someone making money is cuckoo).

You honestly think money and politics don’t have huge effects on the education system?

And you are calling me crazy for pointing that out.

Ok clearly we are unable to have a discussion about that. There are many many research papers, books and documentaries about that if you ever become interested.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist by saying that the shift in the way we teach reading is solely because of the "dyslexia lobby". There are also many research papers, books, and documentaries about the shift in the way reading is taught back to incorporating phonics-based lessons if you ever become interested.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?
I think some parents are annoyed that kids in Upper ES are starting to focus on phonics at a more basic level even though they are older. I doubt there would be as much angst if this was being introduced in K or 1rst Grade.

I see a benefit for my 5th Grader and I am happy that it is there. Parents whose kids are decent spellers using the old method are miffed because it feels like a step back. I mean, I roll my eyes at the math instruction but I have a kid who loves math and has always been ahead in math. I also get that most kids are not my kid and that there are kids who are struggling with mat at grade level just like I get that there are kids who find the introduction of word study in 6th grade to be boring and unnecessary. One would hope that the parents would understand that there are a lot more kids who need this instruction, even in 6th grade.

My kid is in 6th. Literally the first unit reviewed all the syllable types. Now they are doing prefixes. No 6th grader is just doing basic phonics. They are focusing on affixes and roots which is normal.

We are doing the same thing in third grade.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?

Word Study is a separate block. We still have 1 hour to teach a comprehension lesson and do groups. We are finalizing our reading groups next week and will most likely start the following week.

why don’t you use info from last June on where kids are for reading groups? The first Quarter is almost over and assessments have been ongoing for weeks. Seems like too much starting from scratch.

Honestly, my data does not match my spring data completely. Many kids do worse on Spring IReady cause they hate it and rush through it. In normal years we always started reading groups around Columbus Day which is what we are doing. Secondly, we have so many needs and schedules the team needs to sit down and figure out how all students get what they need.

In previous years we would use the spring data to help us and make groups. But, this year, they’re asking us to give all these different diagnostics and use THIS years test data to form groups. They’ve implemented about six changes to the language arts program this year, so that is the delay.

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Anonymous wrote:My dyslexic child is in AAP and reads at grade level (and probably has better reading comprehension than the one lady's 4th grader). I'm just saying. Not everything fits into your neat little buckets. Not everything is about money (lady who things OG and phonics instruction is just about someone making money is cuckoo).

You honestly think money and politics don’t have huge effects on the education system?

And you are calling me crazy for pointing that out.

Ok clearly we are unable to have a discussion about that. There are many many research papers, books and documentaries about that if you ever become interested.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist by saying that the shift in the way we teach reading is solely because of the "dyslexia lobby". There are also many research papers, books, and documentaries about the shift in the way reading is taught back to incorporating phonics-based lessons if you ever become interested.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?
I think some parents are annoyed that kids in Upper ES are starting to focus on phonics at a more basic level even though they are older. I doubt there would be as much angst if this was being introduced in K or 1rst Grade.

I see a benefit for my 5th Grader and I am happy that it is there. Parents whose kids are decent spellers using the old method are miffed because it feels like a step back. I mean, I roll my eyes at the math instruction but I have a kid who loves math and has always been ahead in math. I also get that most kids are not my kid and that there are kids who are struggling with mat at grade level just like I get that there are kids who find the introduction of word study in 6th grade to be boring and unnecessary. One would hope that the parents would understand that there are a lot more kids who need this instruction, even in 6th grade.

My kid is in 6th. Literally the first unit reviewed all the syllable types. Now they are doing prefixes. No 6th grader is just doing basic phonics. They are focusing on affixes and roots which is normal.

We are doing the same thing in third grade.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?

Word Study is a separate block. We still have 1 hour to teach a comprehension lesson and do groups. We are finalizing our reading groups next week and will most likely start the following week.

why don’t you use info from last June on where kids are for reading groups? The first Quarter is almost over and assessments have been ongoing for weeks. Seems like too much starting from scratch.

Honestly, my data does not match my spring data completely. Many kids do worse on Spring IReady cause they hate it and rush through it. In normal years we always started reading groups around Columbus Day which is what we are doing. Secondly, we have so many needs and schedules the team needs to sit down and figure out how all students get what they need.

In previous years we would use the spring data to help us and make groups. But, this year, they’re asking us to give all these different diagnostics and use THIS years test data to form groups. They’ve implemented about six changes to the language arts program this year, so that is the delay.

Some teachers have been pulling reading groups.

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Anonymous wrote:My dyslexic child is in AAP and reads at grade level (and probably has better reading comprehension than the one lady's 4th grader). I'm just saying. Not everything fits into your neat little buckets. Not everything is about money (lady who things OG and phonics instruction is just about someone making money is cuckoo).

You honestly think money and politics don’t have huge effects on the education system?

And you are calling me crazy for pointing that out.

Ok clearly we are unable to have a discussion about that. There are many many research papers, books and documentaries about that if you ever become interested.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist by saying that the shift in the way we teach reading is solely because of the "dyslexia lobby". There are also many research papers, books, and documentaries about the shift in the way reading is taught back to incorporating phonics-based lessons if you ever become interested.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?
I think some parents are annoyed that kids in Upper ES are starting to focus on phonics at a more basic level even though they are older. I doubt there would be as much angst if this was being introduced in K or 1rst Grade.

I see a benefit for my 5th Grader and I am happy that it is there. Parents whose kids are decent spellers using the old method are miffed because it feels like a step back. I mean, I roll my eyes at the math instruction but I have a kid who loves math and has always been ahead in math. I also get that most kids are not my kid and that there are kids who are struggling with mat at grade level just like I get that there are kids who find the introduction of word study in 6th grade to be boring and unnecessary. One would hope that the parents would understand that there are a lot more kids who need this instruction, even in 6th grade.

My kid is in 6th. Literally the first unit reviewed all the syllable types. Now they are doing prefixes. No 6th grader is just doing basic phonics. They are focusing on affixes and roots which is normal.

We are doing the same thing in third grade.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?

Word Study is a separate block. We still have 1 hour to teach a comprehension lesson and do groups. We are finalizing our reading groups next week and will most likely start the following week.

why don’t you use info from last June on where kids are for reading groups? The first Quarter is almost over and assessments have been ongoing for weeks. Seems like too much starting from scratch.

Honestly, my data does not match my spring data completely. Many kids do worse on Spring IReady cause they hate it and rush through it. In normal years we always started reading groups around Columbus Day which is what we are doing. Secondly, we have so many needs and schedules the team needs to sit down and figure out how all students get what they need.

In previous years we would use the spring data to help us and make groups. But, this year, they’re asking us to give all these different diagnostics and use THIS years test data to form groups. They’ve implemented about six changes to the language arts program this year, so that is the delay.

Some teachers have been pulling reading groups.

I believe you, but some of us work at schools where we were told to wait until this past week.

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Anonymous wrote:My dyslexic child is in AAP and reads at grade level (and probably has better reading comprehension than the one lady's 4th grader). I'm just saying. Not everything fits into your neat little buckets. Not everything is about money (lady who things OG and phonics instruction is just about someone making money is cuckoo).

You honestly think money and politics don’t have huge effects on the education system?

And you are calling me crazy for pointing that out.

Ok clearly we are unable to have a discussion about that. There are many many research papers, books and documentaries about that if you ever become interested.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist by saying that the shift in the way we teach reading is solely because of the "dyslexia lobby". There are also many research papers, books, and documentaries about the shift in the way reading is taught back to incorporating phonics-based lessons if you ever become interested.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?
I think some parents are annoyed that kids in Upper ES are starting to focus on phonics at a more basic level even though they are older. I doubt there would be as much angst if this was being introduced in K or 1rst Grade.

I see a benefit for my 5th Grader and I am happy that it is there. Parents whose kids are decent spellers using the old method are miffed because it feels like a step back. I mean, I roll my eyes at the math instruction but I have a kid who loves math and has always been ahead in math. I also get that most kids are not my kid and that there are kids who are struggling with mat at grade level just like I get that there are kids who find the introduction of word study in 6th grade to be boring and unnecessary. One would hope that the parents would understand that there are a lot more kids who need this instruction, even in 6th grade.

My kid is in 6th. Literally the first unit reviewed all the syllable types. Now they are doing prefixes. No 6th grader is just doing basic phonics. They are focusing on affixes and roots which is normal.

We are doing the same thing in third grade.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?

Word Study is a separate block. We still have 1 hour to teach a comprehension lesson and do groups. We are finalizing our reading groups next week and will most likely start the following week.

why don’t you use info from last June on where kids are for reading groups? The first Quarter is almost over and assessments have been ongoing for weeks. Seems like too much starting from scratch.

Honestly, my data does not match my spring data completely. Many kids do worse on Spring IReady cause they hate it and rush through it. In normal years we always started reading groups around Columbus Day which is what we are doing. Secondly, we have so many needs and schedules the team needs to sit down and figure out how all students get what they need.

In previous years we would use the spring data to help us and make groups. But, this year, they’re asking us to give all these different diagnostics and use THIS years test data to form groups. They’ve implemented about six changes to the language arts program this year, so that is the delay.

Some teachers have been pulling reading groups.

I believe you, but some of us work at schools where we were told to wait until this past week.

DP
My barrier has been time. How are they getting all of the assessments in while pulling small groups? I’m just starting CORE and PASS this week.

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Anonymous wrote:My dyslexic child is in AAP and reads at grade level (and probably has better reading comprehension than the one lady's 4th grader). I'm just saying. Not everything fits into your neat little buckets. Not everything is about money (lady who things OG and phonics instruction is just about someone making money is cuckoo).

You honestly think money and politics don’t have huge effects on the education system?

And you are calling me crazy for pointing that out.

Ok clearly we are unable to have a discussion about that. There are many many research papers, books and documentaries about that if you ever become interested.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist by saying that the shift in the way we teach reading is solely because of the "dyslexia lobby". There are also many research papers, books, and documentaries about the shift in the way reading is taught back to incorporating phonics-based lessons if you ever become interested.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?
I think some parents are annoyed that kids in Upper ES are starting to focus on phonics at a more basic level even though they are older. I doubt there would be as much angst if this was being introduced in K or 1rst Grade.

I see a benefit for my 5th Grader and I am happy that it is there. Parents whose kids are decent spellers using the old method are miffed because it feels like a step back. I mean, I roll my eyes at the math instruction but I have a kid who loves math and has always been ahead in math. I also get that most kids are not my kid and that there are kids who are struggling with mat at grade level just like I get that there are kids who find the introduction of word study in 6th grade to be boring and unnecessary. One would hope that the parents would understand that there are a lot more kids who need this instruction, even in 6th grade.

My kid is in 6th. Literally the first unit reviewed all the syllable types. Now they are doing prefixes. No 6th grader is just doing basic phonics. They are focusing on affixes and roots which is normal.

We are doing the same thing in third grade.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?

Word Study is a separate block. We still have 1 hour to teach a comprehension lesson and do groups. We are finalizing our reading groups next week and will most likely start the following week.

why don’t you use info from last June on where kids are for reading groups? The first Quarter is almost over and assessments have been ongoing for weeks. Seems like too much starting from scratch.

Honestly, my data does not match my spring data completely. Many kids do worse on Spring IReady cause they hate it and rush through it. In normal years we always started reading groups around Columbus Day which is what we are doing. Secondly, we have so many needs and schedules the team needs to sit down and figure out how all students get what they need.

In previous years we would use the spring data to help us and make groups. But, this year, they’re asking us to give all these different diagnostics and use THIS years test data to form groups. They’ve implemented about six changes to the language arts program this year, so that is the delay.

Some teachers have been pulling reading groups.

I believe you, but some of us work at schools where we were told to wait until this past week.

DP
My barrier has been time. How are they getting all of the assessments in while pulling small groups? I’m just starting CORE and PASS this week.

Oh ok, we finished those about 2 weeks ago. Our first 5 weeks of school were non-stop testing: iReady, VGA, DSA, CORE, PRF, and PASS.

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Anonymous wrote:My dyslexic child is in AAP and reads at grade level (and probably has better reading comprehension than the one lady's 4th grader). I'm just saying. Not everything fits into your neat little buckets. Not everything is about money (lady who things OG and phonics instruction is just about someone making money is cuckoo).

You honestly think money and politics don’t have huge effects on the education system?

And you are calling me crazy for pointing that out.

Ok clearly we are unable to have a discussion about that. There are many many research papers, books and documentaries about that if you ever become interested.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist by saying that the shift in the way we teach reading is solely because of the "dyslexia lobby". There are also many research papers, books, and documentaries about the shift in the way reading is taught back to incorporating phonics-based lessons if you ever become interested.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?
I think some parents are annoyed that kids in Upper ES are starting to focus on phonics at a more basic level even though they are older. I doubt there would be as much angst if this was being introduced in K or 1rst Grade.

I see a benefit for my 5th Grader and I am happy that it is there. Parents whose kids are decent spellers using the old method are miffed because it feels like a step back. I mean, I roll my eyes at the math instruction but I have a kid who loves math and has always been ahead in math. I also get that most kids are not my kid and that there are kids who are struggling with mat at grade level just like I get that there are kids who find the introduction of word study in 6th grade to be boring and unnecessary. One would hope that the parents would understand that there are a lot more kids who need this instruction, even in 6th grade.

My kid is in 6th. Literally the first unit reviewed all the syllable types. Now they are doing prefixes. No 6th grader is just doing basic phonics. They are focusing on affixes and roots which is normal.

We are doing the same thing in third grade.

When is reading comprehension happening, if at all?

Word Study is a separate block. We still have 1 hour to teach a comprehension lesson and do groups. We are finalizing our reading groups next week and will most likely start the following week.

why don’t you use info from last June on where kids are for reading groups? The first Quarter is almost over and assessments have been ongoing for weeks. Seems like too much starting from scratch.

Honestly, my data does not match my spring data completely. Many kids do worse on Spring IReady cause they hate it and rush through it. In normal years we always started reading groups around Columbus Day which is what we are doing. Secondly, we have so many needs and schedules the team needs to sit down and figure out how all students get what they need.

In previous years we would use the spring data to help us and make groups. But, this year, they’re asking us to give all these different diagnostics and use THIS years test data to form groups. They’ve implemented about six changes to the language arts program this year, so that is the delay.

Some teachers have been pulling reading groups.

I believe you, but some of us work at schools where we were told to wait until this past week.

DP
My barrier has been time. How are they getting all of the assessments in while pulling small groups? I’m just starting CORE and PASS this week.

Oh ok, we finished those about 2 weeks ago. Our first 5 weeks of school were non-stop testing: iReady, VGA, DSA, CORE, PRF, and PASS.

PP here. Third grade. Same, but I haven’t been able to tackle the CORE and PASS yet. Another issue is the students I’m not working with aren’t transitioning well into independent work, so instead of being able to knock out assessments during the reading block I’m also having to take time for classroom management.