What colleges are falling out of fashion?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Caltech in terms of undergrad. Grad school-wise still a stellar institution. Have been dropping in college rankings since the 90s.

Sure tons of mediocre kids get in there, it's practically a safety school now

They have a yield rate that's barely 40%

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Dartmouth and Brown

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, Dartmouth, Rice, W&M and Berkeley

What is your assessment of Berkeley based on?

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Smith

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth and Brown

These schools have low single digit admissions rates and thousands of applications more than they can accept. That,...is not falling out of favor.

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Cornell?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Caltech in terms of undergrad. Grad school-wise still a stellar institution. Have been dropping in college rankings since the 90s.

Sure tons of mediocre kids get in there, it's practically a safety school now

They have a yield rate that's barely 40%

Caltech acceptances probably strongly overlap with MIT acceptances. Since Caltech is so small, if they had a similar yield rate to MIT, Caltech would either have to get even more selective (and significantly more selective than MIT) or they would have to expand enrollment.

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Anonymous wrote:All the LACs and places like Dartmouth and Brown (LAC like universities)

Is it the volume of applications that make you think they are out of fashion because those have never been higher.

Those are all be schools that have substantially better alumni satisfaction indicators than for undergraduates at large research universities.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of rural LACs don’t hold as much appeal as they did in my day (1980s)- kids today are more used to going out for sushi, good meals, instagramming photos in front of colorful outdoor murals, etc and less want to be in a town where a drive thru McDonalds is the highlight. The Ohio and PA LACs are taking the first hit but eventually may spread to the NE ones, too. It also shows in rising popularity of colleges like Northeastern, Temple, College of Charleston, etc.

Plus one

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, Dartmouth, Rice, W&M and Berkeley

What is your assessment of Berkeley based on?

The only sense I can think of in which Berkeley has fallen out of fashion is it is behind UCLA in USNWR. That would have been completely unthinkable before, and I still don't buy it.

The other schools are all fine schools and the poster is probably one of those that thinks only large schools doing big research are good for undergraduate study.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the LACs and places like Dartmouth and Brown (LAC like universities)

Is it the volume of applications that make you think they are out of fashion because those have never been higher.

Those are all be schools that have substantially better alumni satisfaction indicators than for undergraduates at large research universities.

And also more threadshitting by the "Dartmouth and Brown are LACs!" idiot when they are both R1 Universities (there are only 137 R1s in total).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States#

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the LACs and places like Dartmouth and Brown (LAC like universities)

Is it the volume of applications that make you think they are out of fashion because those have never been higher.

Those are all be schools that have substantially better alumni satisfaction indicators than for undergraduates at large research universities.

And also more threadshitting by the "Dartmouth and Brown are LACs!" idiot when they are both R1 Universities (there are only 137 R1s in total).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States#

DP. No one said that Dartmouth and Brown are LACs. Both schools proclaim themselves as liberal arts colleges. Also, Dartmouth only become R1 in 2005, and fell out in 2015. So, not quite the brag you think it is. I don't even know about Brown because it is a complete non-entity in academia.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, Dartmouth, Rice, W&M and Berkeley

What is your assessment of Berkeley based on?

The only sense I can think of in which Berkeley has fallen out of fashion is it is behind UCLA in USNWR. That would have been completely unthinkable before, and I still don't buy it.

The other schools are all fine schools and the poster is probably one of those that thinks only large schools doing big research are good for undergraduate study.

No. Berkeley is a horrid place to go for undergrad. It's constantly having budget problems, has a massive bureaucracy, and has, in many ways, a toxic culture that permeates from undergrad through grad all the way to the top of the faculty and administration.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. No one said that Dartmouth and Brown are LACs. Both schools proclaim themselves as liberal arts colleges.

Oh yeah? Where is that, exactly?

https://home.dartmouth.edu/about
Says "Liberal Arts at the Core" which does NOT mean it is an LAC - if it does then so is Columbia. https://bulletin.columbia.edu/columbia-college/core-curriculum/

Dartmouth also says this "More than 75 centers and institutes offer expanded learning and research in areas as diverse as medicine, the arts, engineering, and business. Many are interdisciplinary and bring together faculty and students from across campus to work on complex issues."

https://www.brown.edu/academics
Brown is a leading research university and the seventh-oldest college in the U.S.

You don't even know what a liberal arts college is. You know that nearly every university in the country contains one, right? So, bullshit.

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know about Brown because it is a complete non-entity in academia.

This is some nuclear-grade stupid.

As of November 2019, nine Nobel Prize winners have been affiliated with Brown as alumni, faculty, or researchers, as well as seven National Humanities Medalists and ten National Medal of Science laureates.

https://www.brown.edu/academics/physics/news/2016/10/professor-michael-kosterlitz-awarded-2016-nobel-prize-physics#
https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/11/brown-alum-wins-nobel-memorial-prize-in-economics-sciences

So many more but I will stop and repeat that you are an embittered idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. No one said that Dartmouth and Brown are LACs. Both schools proclaim themselves as liberal arts colleges.

Oh yeah? Where is that, exactly?

https://home.dartmouth.edu/about
Says "Liberal Arts at the Core" which does NOT mean it is an LAC - if it does then so is Columbia. https://bulletin.columbia.edu/columbia-college/core-curriculum/

Dartmouth also says this "More than 75 centers and institutes offer expanded learning and research in areas as diverse as medicine, the arts, engineering, and business. Many are interdisciplinary and bring together faculty and students from across campus to work on complex issues."

https://www.brown.edu/academics
Brown is a leading research university and the seventh-oldest college in the U.S.

You don't even know what a liberal arts college is. You know that nearly every university in the country contains one, right? So, bullshit.

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know about Brown because it is a complete non-entity in academia.

This is some nuclear-grade stupid.

As of November 2019, nine Nobel Prize winners have been affiliated with Brown as alumni, faculty, or researchers, as well as seven National Humanities Medalists and ten National Medal of Science laureates.

https://www.brown.edu/academics/physics/news/2016/10/professor-michael-kosterlitz-awarded-2016-nobel-prize-physics#
https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/11/brown-alum-wins-nobel-memorial-prize-in-economics-sciences

So many more but I will stop and repeat that you are an embittered idiot.

Brown really is not highly ranked in any graduate discipline. Both schools emphasize their undergraduate and liberal arts focus. Again, who called either school an LAC and why are you so angry?