Masking off-ramp coming soon?

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Anonymous wrote:The simple solution is "masks are not mandatory."

Masks are not mandatory now in classrooms in: UK, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (12 & under), Russia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria (up to 5th grade), most of South America, etc.

Exactly. These Smart Restart and COVID fear porn will never say what their end game is for an endemic virus that will be here forever.

Here's Joseph Allen, Professor at Harvard who advised Arlington on its reopening this spring (and is one of the top professors on healthy buildings in the world):

“What’s causing all the confusion, the infighting, the disagreement — it’s really a lack of goal setting,” said Joseph G. Allen, a Harvard University expert on maintaining health inside buildings, including schools. “Zero Covid in schools? Well, that may not be possible.”

Teacher here. I don't care about goal setting and I don't think Covid will be eliminated. However, I can tell you without a doubt that I will not work in a classroom with unmasked and unvaccinated children. I will not.

And there are a lot of people like me. Therefore, if you think that you can bully teachers into accepting your position then you're wrong because we will walk out. We're already stretched as far as we can go. One more little push and there could well be a mass exodus.

So be careful what you wish for ... if you want your unvaccinated children to be unmasked in the classroom then you should be prepared to teach them yourselves. My health and wellbeing is more important to me than the education of your child.

It's really sad to see there's anti-vaxxers teachers our children, who don't believe vaccines work. I think it's time for you to leave the profession if you don't believe in science.

It's really sad to see that you're a parent if you have such poor reading comprehension. You are a very poor model for your children and I pity them. Please read the bolded "unmasked and unvaccinated children." The key word is AND.

You are an idiot troll using hyperbolic talk to bully a teacher. She is right. Children who are unvaccinated should not be unmasked in school. It is her right to be safe.

Go away and try to be a better person; it may not be possible but we can all have hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

Yes, humans are responsible for viral spread. That was Rochelle Walensky and an absolutely absurd statement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The simple solution is "masks are not mandatory."

Masks are not mandatory now in classrooms in: UK, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (12 & under), Russia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria (up to 5th grade), most of South America, etc.

Exactly. These Smart Restart and COVID fear porn will never say what their end game is for an endemic virus that will be here forever.

Here's Joseph Allen, Professor at Harvard who advised Arlington on its reopening this spring (and is one of the top professors on healthy buildings in the world):

“What’s causing all the confusion, the infighting, the disagreement — it’s really a lack of goal setting,” said Joseph G. Allen, a Harvard University expert on maintaining health inside buildings, including schools. “Zero Covid in schools? Well, that may not be possible.”

Teacher here. I don't care about goal setting and I don't think Covid will be eliminated. However, I can tell you without a doubt that I will not work in a classroom with unmasked and unvaccinated children. I will not.

And there are a lot of people like me. Therefore, if you think that you can bully teachers into accepting your position then you're wrong because we will walk out. We're already stretched as far as we can go. One more little push and there could well be a mass exodus.

So be careful what you wish for ... if you want your unvaccinated children to be unmasked in the classroom then you should be prepared to teach them yourselves. My health and wellbeing is more important to me than the education of your child.

It's really sad to see there's anti-vaxxers teachers our children, who don't believe vaccines work. I think it's time for you to leave the profession if you don't believe in science.

You clearly do not understand PP's points nor have any desire to understand them.

STFU, ignorant bully. You have no place here.

I understand her point and it’s completely illogical. Vaccinated people spread the virus too. And the virus will be here the rest of our lives. Everyone will repeatedly be exposed to COVID the rest of their lives.

If you believe in the vaccine, you wouldn’t care. If you do care, then you’re not trusting the vaccine or you’re simply ignorant and think covid will be eradicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

LOL I would pity you if it weren’t because you can unfortunately breed and reproduce and also have the same voting power as I do.

Riddle me this: I work with children, all day every day.

Have traveled out of the country 5 times since November 2019 and do not and will not have have any experimental unknown toxin inoculated.

Haven’t even caught a cough or a cold? Am I Superman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The simple solution is "masks are not mandatory."

Masks are not mandatory now in classrooms in: UK, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (12 & under), Russia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria (up to 5th grade), most of South America, etc.

Exactly. These Smart Restart and COVID fear porn will never say what their end game is for an endemic virus that will be here forever.

Here's Joseph Allen, Professor at Harvard who advised Arlington on its reopening this spring (and is one of the top professors on healthy buildings in the world):

“What’s causing all the confusion, the infighting, the disagreement — it’s really a lack of goal setting,” said Joseph G. Allen, a Harvard University expert on maintaining health inside buildings, including schools. “Zero Covid in schools? Well, that may not be possible.”

Teacher here. I don't care about goal setting and I don't think Covid will be eliminated. However, I can tell you without a doubt that I will not work in a classroom with unmasked and unvaccinated children. I will not.

And there are a lot of people like me. Therefore, if you think that you can bully teachers into accepting your position then you're wrong because we will walk out. We're already stretched as far as we can go. One more little push and there could well be a mass exodus.

So be careful what you wish for ... if you want your unvaccinated children to be unmasked in the classroom then you should be prepared to teach them yourselves. My health and wellbeing is more important to me than the education of your child.

It's really sad to see there's anti-vaxxers teachers our children, who don't believe vaccines work. I think it's time for you to leave the profession if you don't believe in science.

You clearly do not understand PP's points nor have any desire to understand them.

STFU, ignorant bully. You have no place here.

I understand her point and it’s completely illogical. Vaccinated people spread the virus too. And the virus will be here the rest of our lives. Everyone will repeatedly be exposed to COVID the rest of their lives.

If you believe in the vaccine, you wouldn’t care. If you do care, then you’re not trusting the vaccine or you’re simply ignorant and think covid will be eradicated.

Like I said, you have zero desire to understand her point. So STFU and go away, bully.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

LOL I would pity you if it weren’t because you can unfortunately breed and reproduce and also have the same voting power as I do.

Riddle me this: I work with children, all day every day.

Have traveled out of the country 5 times since November 2019 and do not and will not have have any experimental unknown toxin inoculated.

Haven’t even caught a cough or a cold? Am I Superman?

You shouldn't be working with children. I hope a vaccine mandate catches up with you soon. Then you can either get vaccinated or quit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

LOL I would pity you if it weren’t because you can unfortunately breed and reproduce and also have the same voting power as I do.

Riddle me this: I work with children, all day every day.

Have traveled out of the country 5 times since November 2019 and do not and will not have have any experimental unknown toxin inoculated.

Haven’t even caught a cough or a cold? Am I Superman?

No, just lucky.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys understand that a lot of teachers will walk out if kids who are not vaccinated don't wear masks? It is definitely a thing that we've talked about in my school.

I think there are many of us who would be happy to be rid of them. I think the way they are worn in the average elementary classroom is minimal protection.

??? Y'all are doing something wrong then. We have full compliance and no issues.

Yeah, that's weird. We are a middle school and we have almost no problems either. All the kids are wearing their masks and virtually no one is complaining, which is strange because middle schoolers will complain about anything. Some of them will remind each other by pointing at their noses if someone's mask slips down in class.

Same here. I think the kids are happy to be back and know that the masks make it possible.

Masks make it possible? LOL

Masks are not mandatory now in classrooms in: UK, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (12 & under), Russia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria (up to 5th grade), most of South America, etc.

Cool story. Feel free to move there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Masks should come off kids who are vaccinated.

Kids who aren't vaccinated can unmask once community rates are below X, assuming "X" is based on science and not some random impossible number. There will always be covid cases floating around.

That would work after vaccines are mandated, but until then it's not enforceable.

Why wouldn't it be enforceable?

How would teachers know who is vaccinated or not? You expect teachers to track all of that?

Until vaccines are mandated, masks come off everyone after community transmission levels are low (blue).

It's not that hard to keep track of. Bosses did it for their workforce from May through July when we could voluntarily show proof of vaccination in order to not wear a mask at work. It's just not that hard. To be clear, I agree that a vaccine mandate is ideal, but I think it could be a long long ways off. I don't accept that something is "not enforceable" just because it's hard(ish).

And it's exactly this kind of thinking that is the reason we had virtual school almost all of last year. Ask the school system to be even mildly adaptive to hardship and they throw up their hands. Learned helplessness.

They adapted by having kids back in person, masked, until community transmission reaches, and maintains, the objectively quantified Low level, which has not happened yet — thus masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The simple solution is "masks are not mandatory."

Masks are not mandatory now in classrooms in: UK, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (12 & under), Russia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria (up to 5th grade), most of South America, etc.

Exactly. These Smart Restart and COVID fear porn will never say what their end game is for an endemic virus that will be here forever.

Here's Joseph Allen, Professor at Harvard who advised Arlington on its reopening this spring (and is one of the top professors on healthy buildings in the world):

“What’s causing all the confusion, the infighting, the disagreement — it’s really a lack of goal setting,” said Joseph G. Allen, a Harvard University expert on maintaining health inside buildings, including schools. “Zero Covid in schools? Well, that may not be possible.”

Teacher here. I don't care about goal setting and I don't think Covid will be eliminated. However, I can tell you without a doubt that I will not work in a classroom with unmasked and unvaccinated children. I will not.

And there are a lot of people like me. Therefore, if you think that you can bully teachers into accepting your position then you're wrong because we will walk out. We're already stretched as far as we can go. One more little push and there could well be a mass exodus.

So be careful what you wish for ... if you want your unvaccinated children to be unmasked in the classroom then you should be prepared to teach them yourselves. My health and wellbeing is more important to me than the education of your child.

*applause*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

LOL I would pity you if it weren’t because you can unfortunately breed and reproduce and also have the same voting power as I do.

Riddle me this: I work with children, all day every day.

Have traveled out of the country 5 times since November 2019 and do not and will not have have any experimental unknown toxin inoculated.

Haven’t even caught a cough or a cold? Am I Superman?

Ooooh, you’re an imbecile. Sorry, didn’t realize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

LOL I would pity you if it weren’t because you can unfortunately breed and reproduce and also have the same voting power as I do.

Riddle me this: I work with children, all day every day.

Have traveled out of the country 5 times since November 2019 and do not and will not have have any experimental unknown toxin inoculated.

Haven’t even caught a cough or a cold? Am I Superman?

Ooooh, you’re an imbecile. Sorry, didn’t realize.

Ooooooh I have a strong immune system that’s nurtured by healthy choices like clean food and exercise and sun and water…

Hmmm let’s try to use the brain for once:

If it works and it’s safe (what they wrongly called ‘vaccine’) you don’t need massive marketing and advertising campaigns, coercing people or offering incentives (we’ve seen cash, beer and junk food as the most heavily chosen options). Super healthy to get a free donut or burger for a jab. It’s almost like they actually care about your health. Not. Lol.

If it works and it’s safe you don’t need to block, censor or threat those who question it (what they wrongly call a ‘vaccine’).

You may now go ahead and consume all that fear p*rn on the media and let them tell you how bad and terrible the plandemic is. Oh, and also don’t forget to stay indoor and not go out and get sun or do any form of activity that may raise your heart rate and elevate the dopamine and serotonin levels. Prolly better than you pop whatever garbage your ‘doctor’ gave you. And rage online how selfish and bad the ‘unvaccinated’ are and how irresponsible we are threatening your very existence because I’m not driving masked our cover my airways outdoors. Haha. Next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The simple solution is "masks are not mandatory."

Masks are not mandatory now in classrooms in: UK, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium (12 & under), Russia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria (up to 5th grade), most of South America, etc.

Exactly. These Smart Restart and COVID fear porn will never say what their end game is for an endemic virus that will be here forever.

Here's Joseph Allen, Professor at Harvard who advised Arlington on its reopening this spring (and is one of the top professors on healthy buildings in the world):

“What’s causing all the confusion, the infighting, the disagreement — it’s really a lack of goal setting,” said Joseph G. Allen, a Harvard University expert on maintaining health inside buildings, including schools. “Zero Covid in schools? Well, that may not be possible.”

Teacher here. I don't care about goal setting and I don't think Covid will be eliminated. However, I can tell you without a doubt that I will not work in a classroom with unmasked and unvaccinated children. I will not.

And there are a lot of people like me. Therefore, if you think that you can bully teachers into accepting your position then you're wrong because we will walk out. We're already stretched as far as we can go. One more little push and there could well be a mass exodus.

So be careful what you wish for ... if you want your unvaccinated children to be unmasked in the classroom then you should be prepared to teach them yourselves. My health and wellbeing is more important to me than the education of your child.

It's really sad to see there's anti-vaxxers teachers our children, who don't believe vaccines work. I think it's time for you to leave the profession if you don't believe in science.

You clearly do not understand PP's points nor have any desire to understand them.

STFU, ignorant bully. You have no place here.

I understand her point and it’s completely illogical. Vaccinated people spread the virus too. And the virus will be here the rest of our lives. Everyone will repeatedly be exposed to COVID the rest of their lives.

If you believe in the vaccine, you wouldn’t care. If you do care, then you’re not trusting the vaccine or you’re simply ignorant and think covid will be eradicated.

Like I said, you have zero desire to understand her point. So STFU and go away, bully.

Can someone please explain her logic for a virus that will be here forever, and that spreads among vaccinated people too?

I’m genuinely interested and the only response (so far) is insults. If there is any logic behind it, I’d love to hear it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

Exactly. And maybe at one point we could have envisioned getting rid of masks if vaccination rates head increased quickly. However, enough people refused to get the vaccine and the virus mutated. That means we end up having to wear masks for longer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I saw an epidemiologist say that the course of the pandemic will be determined now by human behavior. All the people who won't wear masks or get vaccinated are prolonging it for the rest of us.

Exactly. And maybe at one point we could have envisioned getting rid of masks if vaccination rates head increased quickly. However, enough people refused to get the vaccine and the virus mutated. That means we end up having to wear masks for longer.

For longer?!? When?

We have one of the highest vaccination rates in the country. Much if the world isn’t vaccinated.

Offramps are coming soon. The doomers don’t want to define an offramp because they know it will be unacceptable to the vast majority of the public, unless it is achievable in the next few months. So they’re trying as long as possible to keep from defining one.

Once that vaccine for 5-11 year olds comes out, the political and public pressure is going to be intense for offramps, especially with an election in 2022