Official Kamala Harris VP Thread

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Anonymous wrote:War in Gaza and in Iran and picking Shapiro would be a choice indeed

There’s no law against traveling to other countries and volunteering. Millions of Americans do it.

If you have a problem with Jews being able to do this, vote for Trump. He’ll probably get around to making it illegal at some point.

Millions of Americans volunteer for the military of a foreign country?

GTFOH with your dishonesty.

Millions of Americans volunteer.

We have no idea what he did in Israel. Usually when diaspora Jews volunteer, it has nothing to do with the military and yet is somehow affiliated with the IDF because it’s pretty entrenched in the fabric of the country. I can certainly see a young adult planting trees in Israel for a few months and coming home and talking about how they volunteered in the army.

Is he a dual national? How can a US citizen volunteer for a foreign army? Can Russian Americans or Chinese Americana do this?

You’re assuming that volunteering for the IDF means combat, or anything to do with combat. I know a lot of people currently “volunteering for the IDF”. They are helping out in hospitals, delivering meals, working in warehouses, and yes, planting trees. None of them are Israeli or dual citizens.

So it would be ok if a VP pick was working in a warehouse or delivering meals for the defense forces of Russia, or Turkey, or Italy?

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Anonymous wrote:You’re assuming that volunteering for the IDF means combat, or anything to do with combat. I know a lot of people currently “volunteering for the IDF”. They are helping out in hospitals, delivering meals, working in warehouses, and yes, planting trees. None of them are Israeli or dual citizens.

You're kind of missing the point: a VP candidate is supposed to bolster the ticket's chances of winning, first, and be a suitable replacement for the President if needed, second.

So think about how this will play with voters in Peoria, and other places where enlisting in the US military is a viable pathway to socioeconomic mobility and stability.

Option A: he didn't volunteer to serve his own country in the military, he volunteered to serve another country in the military (whether humanitarian work or holding a gun or as a desk jockey). But he's asking voters to believe him now that his loyalties lie with the US, and that he'll never feel a conflict in evaluating where to draw the line with that other country, if needed. This assumes he holds only American citizenship.

Option B: he didn't volunteer to serve his own country in the military, he volunteered to serve another country in the military (same notes as above), and holds dual Israeli-US citizenship. And he's asking voters to believe that his loyalties lie with the US, and that he'll never feel a conflict in evaluating where to draw the line with that other country, if needed.

Like...this is what the conversation will be with Shapiro as the VP candidate. It won't be about what great work he may have done as AG and as Governor. It will be about whether he is a dual citizen and why he chose to serve another country instead of the US.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re assuming that volunteering for the IDF means combat, or anything to do with combat. I know a lot of people currently “volunteering for the IDF”. They are helping out in hospitals, delivering meals, working in warehouses, and yes, planting trees. None of them are Israeli or dual citizens.

You're kind of missing the point: a VP candidate is supposed to bolster the ticket's chances of winning, first, and be a suitable replacement for the President if needed, second.

So think about how this will play with voters in Peoria, and other places where enlisting in the US military is a viable pathway to socioeconomic mobility and stability.

Option A: he didn't volunteer to serve his own country in the military, he volunteered to serve another country in the military (whether humanitarian work or holding a gun or as a desk jockey). But he's asking voters to believe him now that his loyalties lie with the US, and that he'll never feel a conflict in evaluating where to draw the line with that other country, if needed. This assumes he holds only American citizenship.

Option B: he didn't volunteer to serve his own country in the military, he volunteered to serve another country in the military (same notes as above), and holds dual Israeli-US citizenship. And he's asking voters to believe that his loyalties lie with the US, and that he'll never feel a conflict in evaluating where to draw the line with that other country, if needed.

Like...this is what the conversation will be with Shapiro as the VP candidate. It won't be about what great work he may have done as AG and as Governor. It will be about whether he is a dual citizen and why he chose to serve another country instead of the US.

This is what the conversation should be about with respect to many people in the US government, frankly. Maybe this will be the catalyst. One can hope…

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How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

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Here is more on Shapiro’s legal controversies. I’d like to know whether there was an actual conflict of interest with the murder case, for one. As well as more about the sexual harassment timeline.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/josh-shapiro-pos...legal-controversies/

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Anonymous wrote:Here is more on Shapiro’s legal controversies. I’d like to know whether there was an actual conflict of interest with the murder case, for one. As well as more about the sexual harassment timeline.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/josh-shapiro-pos...legal-controversies/

There might be reasonable explanations but I’m not satisfied with the answers so far. Don’t like the lack of nuance with which he handled protests, don’t like the fact that unions don’t like him, fundamentally not sure he’s a nice guy who cares about service more than professional ambition. Not sure Harris can trust him to be loyal.

That all said, he’s been publicly vetted far more than the other prospects. Who knows what skeletons might come to light there.

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Shapiro is back up on PredictIt fwiw. I guess because Walz was still in MN last night?

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Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

I keep coming to this thread assuming someone in dcum would know by now!

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Did anyone donate in order to get the “first announcement” text? I did last time around, but it leaked before the text came. We’ll see if that happens again.

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Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

Not leaking is the sign of a professional and serious operation. Why would you be annoyed? Do you want our government to be run by a bunch of backstabbing leakers?

The only reason I want this to be announced is that we can stop all the infighting.

I really hope that some of the anti-Shapiro posts are trolls because I hate to think these anti-Semitic are written by fellow Democrats. we can all have our opinion on who we like best and for what reason without being anti-Semitic.

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Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

Not leaking is the sign of a professional and serious operation. Why would you be annoyed? Do you want our government to be run by a bunch of backstabbing leakers?

The only reason I want this to be announced is that we can stop all the infighting.

I really hope that some of the anti-Shapiro posts are trolls because I hate to think these anti-Semitic are written by fellow Democrats. we can all have our opinion on who we like best and for what reason without being anti-Semitic.

The reality is that there is horrible antisemitism on both sides of the aisle. This is not the moment to take that (losing?) battle on imo. You can’t fix deeply entrenched biases in 90 days. Especially when the candidate already shot him self in the foot on a hot-button topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

For me, totally impressed.

I mean, signs for the rallies in Pennsylvania, Detroit and Eu Claire have already been printed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

I keep coming to this thread assuming someone in dcum would know by now!

+1!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

For me, totally impressed.

I mean, signs for the rallies in Pennsylvania, Detroit and Eu Claire have already been printed.

With the running mate name and nobody leaked it? Wow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How has this not leaked?? Don’t know whether to be more annoyed or impressed!

Not leaking is the sign of a professional and serious operation. Why would you be annoyed? Do you want our government to be run by a bunch of backstabbing leakers?

The only reason I want this to be announced is that we can stop all the infighting.

I really hope that some of the anti-Shapiro posts are trolls because I hate to think these anti-Semitic are written by fellow Democrats. we can all have our opinion on who we like best and for what reason without being anti-Semitic.

The reality is that there is horrible antisemitism on both sides of the aisle. This is not the moment to take that (losing?) battle on imo. You can’t fix deeply entrenched biases in 90 days. Especially when the candidate already shot him self in the foot on a hot-button topic.

BoTH sIdEs

on the left, it is fringe Pro-Palestinian people.
on the right, it is the elected GOP and the deplorables