Missing college student in the Dominican Republic from Ashburn

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:So how would you know you were the last person to see someone (especially a college woman you'd just drunkenly met hours earlier)? And you're to take responsibility when the FIVE traveling companions of the woman are kinda in a rush to meet their boat excursion sailaway time?

I think someone is desperately trying to keep suspicion on the boy. Someone familiar with DCUM.

Why? That is the question.

Because the family is important. And there’s no way their daughter could have made a series of bad choices (getting wasted, swimming in the ocean in the dark wasted, etc) that may have resulted in her demise. So it has to be someone else’s fault.

What do you mean the family is important?

IKR. Every so often a PP proclaims the "importance" of this family but none of us have ever heard of them and the PP never explains. Well, PP?

DP. But the whole point of having a good reputation is that in times like this it counts.

This is not India. Doesn’t matter how “important” her family is.

Maybe it's like that saying- you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the Indian out of them (or something like that)? You can substitute another country, it could probably apply to other immigrants or countries as well. Maybe their Indian community wherever they may live cares?

Their community has closed ranks around the friends. Nothing is being said about any of them, they're not speaking, and they left DR right away. No press conference crying about where is my best friend, please come home, we miss you and love you. NOTHING. The community has surrounded them and protecting them. They're perfectly fine with someone outside of their community taking the fall, very possibly for a crime he didn't commit, as long as it means no consequences for them and that their lives and continue on the previously set trajectory. The parents of the missing woman aren't even speaking out whatsoever against the friends.

I do not think this makes their community unique and it isn't intended to be racist in any way; this type of behavior is seen in many, MANY different tight knit communities.

Silence speaks volumes. Good or bad whatever.

They have already given their stories it seems to LE. They probably got the hell out of the country because they don't want to suffer too, or vacation in a place that based on some of the travel reviews -eek. Or and most likely they had to resume classes after spring break. They must be in shock or feeling guilty for various reasons, whether they were "best" friends or not, they have lost a friend temporarily or forever. Or they have been advised to protect "their" community's image which at this point is so ridonc (yes, okay, Indian young women also party get over it - there's a young woman missing. Or they have all been advised not to speak to media they don't want attention drawn to them for safety reasons, or possibly if they know other things ("their" culture related things or possibly related to India/Indian embassy if that is whom the young woman's parents had to contact if it was alleged that US authorities couldn't or wouldn't help them initially in the DR etc..). And their stories could affect the US's POI as he recollects his memories.

It's the trashy White man she was with who probably drowned her when she resisted his advances. That is the problem.

Often the case, sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:So how would you know you were the last person to see someone (especially a college woman you'd just drunkenly met hours earlier)? And you're to take responsibility when the FIVE traveling companions of the woman are kinda in a rush to meet their boat excursion sailaway time?

He was expected to report when the girlfriends were off for a day trip?

Most trained lifeguards report a near drowning esp if the person then disappears and could be in the water or medical trouble.

He and Carter alone knew she was missing as of the time Ribe got back.

They withheld that info from authorities and her friends.

As soon as friends knew she was missing the raised alert with resort and her family.

He is the one who benefited from delay. What did he do all day? What was he holding in his pocket walking back? It wasn’t a phone or his room key.

No, they didn’t. They (very reasonably) assumed she had gone back to her room.

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Anonymous wrote:They were all drunk and adults responsible for their own choices. She is to blame for getting drunk and swimming. Drunk people have terrible judgment. The boy isn't to blame for her drowning and neither are her friends.

But only one of these people has ever been, and continues to be held, for 12 days. The others continued their day boat excursion, caught their flights home, and are back at school.

You should hire whomever it is you're supposed to in this situation and find out why LE/DR didn't stop the "girls" - aka traveling companions - from leaving DR then. It was reported that the traveling companions were questioned. What did they say, has it been reported? Was it DR LE asking them, or had US LE arrived by that point to do so. Upthread it was mentioned the Attorney General of DR woman. Did that Attorney General question the young women's traveling companions?

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Anonymous wrote:It's been 12 days of detention and questioning. Charge or release him. US needs to demand his return. If/when DR chooses to charge him, I'm confident our dear leader will ship him back in chains.

If we have any rights left as US citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been 12 days of detention and questioning. Charge or release him. US needs to demand his return. If/when DR chooses to charge him, I'm confident our dear leader will ship him back in chains.

FBI and HS are on site. Don’t see that demand happening. DR law is being followed. The AG is personally involved.

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As of today, 3/17 - what’s the common theory?

[Anonymous]

Trump needs to step in, the guy a us citizen is being unjustifiably detained for too long for an Indian missing person while the friends who are Indians on us visas ran back to the US not accepting any consequences. Something isn't right and we need full transparency as this American citizen is stuck in the dr.

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Anonymous wrote:So how would you know you were the last person to see someone (especially a college woman you'd just drunkenly met hours earlier)? And you're to take responsibility when the FIVE traveling companions of the woman are kinda in a rush to meet their boat excursion sailaway time?

He was expected to report when the girlfriends were off for a day trip?

Most trained lifeguards report a near drowning esp if the person then disappears and could be in the water or medical trouble.

He and Carter alone knew she was missing as of the time Ribe got back.

They withheld that info from authorities and her friends.

As soon as friends knew she was missing the raised alert with resort and her family.

He is the one who benefited from delay. What did he do all day? What was he holding in his pocket walking back? It wasn’t a phone or his room key.

No, they didn’t. They (very reasonably) assumed she had gone back to her room.

No, Ribe told him they had reached out to Carter that am looking for her.

Ribe and Johnson alone knew she was missing as of 10 am and did not tell the friends or raise an alarm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Agree. This is all very normal college student behavior. As someone noted in this thread previously, college kids + alcohol often ends tragically (drunk driving deaths, frat hazing, drowning).

The only person to blame is the girl herself, who got drunk and then went swimming in the ocean in the dark. She's an adult and responsible for the consequences of her own choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As of today, 3/17 - what’s the common theory?

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

It's mostly one very ardent pp who seems to occupy about 1/3 of this entire thread. Very distinctive writing style. And very defensive and wants very much for this to end with an arrest for murder.
DP: "There is someone who posts obsessively on this thread over and over accusing the boy of killing her, who is extremely invested in the girls names being withheld and extremely invested in the girls being completely exonerated and in her being murdered, not drowned. This person is an ESL speaker/writer with distinctive syntax. One of the Bad Friends is from Loudoun. I just think that's interesting."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Agree. This is all very normal college student behavior. As someone noted in this thread previously, college kids + alcohol often ends tragically (drunk driving deaths, frat hazing, drowning).

The only person to blame is the girl herself, who got drunk and then went swimming in the ocean in the dark. She's an adult and responsible for the consequences of her own choices.

Drunk men kill women all the time. DR is right to investigate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As of today, 3/17 - what’s the common theory?

The consensus is she got drunk and drowned**. When you hear hoofbeats, its horses, not zebras.

**Except for one non-native English language speaker in this thread who thinks her friends are blameless and she was viciously murdered by a dude so drunk he was puking all over the beach but also such an evil mastermind that between pukes, he left no evidence of his crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been 12 days of detention and questioning. Charge or release him. US needs to demand his return. If/when DR chooses to charge him, I'm confident our dear leader will ship him back in chains.

Why is he not being treated as a citizen of the US, and the rights attributed to them? Does his family not have $$ or the right connections?