Roe v Wade struck down

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Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republican-appointed judges on the Supreme Court did.
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Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Why is it solely on the Democrats to do the right thing?



Because they are the ones who have spent 50 years claiming to defend women's rights.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


The logic of an abusive person/party: "Why do you make me hit you?"
Ladies and gentlemen, today's GOP.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republicans who installed judges to a stolen SCOTUS seat and were appointed by a President who did not secure the vote of the majority of the American population and who lied their way through confirmation did.


Clarified for you.

Also, lbh, Dems didn't have a filibuster proof majority to "codify Roe" for a very, very long time. Dems handled Roe naively and ineptly, I agree, but this is not on them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republicans who installed judges to a stolen SCOTUS seat and were appointed by a President who did not secure the vote of the majority of the American population and who lied their way through confirmation did.


Clarified for you.

Also, lbh, Dems didn't have a filibuster proof majority to "codify Roe" for a very, very long time. Dems handled Roe naively and ineptly, I agree, but this is not on them.


I don’t believe for one second that this hack court wouldn’t strike down a national law enshrining Roe. It would take a constitutional amendment and good luck getting one of them for anything in this environment. We couldn’t even get one passed that says “women are equal”.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.



It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Leave it up to the states, leave it up to congress, leave it up to the tea leaves and what way the planets are aligned. It's all BS. It shouldn't have to be a law that women should have access to healthcare.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republicans who installed judges to a stolen SCOTUS seat and were appointed by a President who did not secure the vote of the majority of the American population and who lied their way through confirmation did.


Clarified for you.

Also, lbh, Dems didn't have a filibuster proof majority to "codify Roe" for a very, very long time. Dems handled Roe naively and ineptly, I agree, but this is not on them.


I don’t believe for one second that this hack court wouldn’t strike down a national law enshrining Roe. It would take a constitutional amendment and good luck getting one of them for anything in this environment. We couldn’t even get one passed that says “women are equal”.

Only because brainwashed women persist in supporting the GOP. Internalized misogyny is a hell of a drug.
Anonymous
This Texas woman's story in People magazine is very similar to the story of Savita Halappanavar, the Irish woman whose death from sepsis resulting an incomplete miscarriage helped lead to the legalization of abortion in Ireland. Except she fortunately survived.

Her water broke at 18 weeks and it was inevitable that her fetus could not survive. But, because doctors could still detect a heartbeat, they couldn't do anything to help her until she got close enough to death for the hospital's "ethics board" to decide an abortion was necessary to save her life. She survived, but other women will end up dying because of these ridiculous laws.

She was having trouble walking on her own at the hospital and "was not really coherent," Josh recalls. "She didn't really understand what was going on." After the delivery she was sent straight to the ICU. "That was the scariest thing I've ever gone through in my life — seeing Amanda on what could have been her deathbed."

Although Amanda didn't realize how ill she was a the time — friends and family were rushing to her bedside, fearing she would die — she has since been processing what happened to her.

"It took three days at home until I became sick 'enough' that the ethics board at our hospital agreed we could begin medical treatment; three days until my life was considered at risk 'enough' for the inevitable premature delivery of my daughter to be performed; three days until the doctors, nurses, and other healthcare professionals were allowed to do their jobs"

https://people.com/health/texas-woman-nearly-loses-her-life-after-doctors-cannot-legally-perform-abortion/
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republicans who installed judges to a stolen SCOTUS seat and were appointed by a President who did not secure the vote of the majority of the American population and who lied their way through confirmation did.


Clarified for you.

Also, lbh, Dems didn't have a filibuster proof majority to "codify Roe" for a very, very long time. Dems handled Roe naively and ineptly, I agree, but this is not on them.


I don’t believe for one second that this hack court wouldn’t strike down a national law enshrining Roe. It would take a constitutional amendment and good luck getting one of them for anything in this environment. We couldn’t even get one passed that says “women are equal”.


100% agree. They've showed they are not willing to stick to judicial precedent and adhere to Stare Decisis, even after saying they would during confirmation hearings. They are not an unbiased legal tribunal any longer. And no one with sense can argue that they (Scotus) are.
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Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republicans who installed judges to a stolen SCOTUS seat and were appointed by a President who did not secure the vote of the majority of the American population and who lied their way through confirmation did.


Clarified for you.

Also, lbh, Dems didn't have a filibuster proof majority to "codify Roe" for a very, very long time. Dems handled Roe naively and ineptly, I agree, but this is not on them.


I don’t believe for one second that this hack court wouldn’t strike down a national law enshrining Roe. It would take a constitutional amendment and good luck getting one of them for anything in this environment. We couldn’t even get one passed that says “women are equal”.


100% agree. They've showed they are not willing to stick to judicial precedent and adhere to Stare Decisis, even after saying they would during confirmation hearings. They are not an unbiased legal tribunal any longer. And no one with sense can argue that they (Scotus) are.

+1 In a just world, all six of the lying sacks of crap would be impeached and removed. They’re illegitimate.
Anonymous
I dare every so-called "pro-life" voter on here to read this article that shows just what exactly a pregnancy at 5, 7, 8, and 9 weeks looks like. (Hint, you won't see anything at all that resembles the imagery the anti-abortion folk like to toss around. You won't see anything that looks any like a human being either.) Let's remind everyone that the vast majority of abortions take place by around 10 weeks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/pregnancy-weeks-abortion-tissue

And for those who don't want to click on that link, here's a tweet that shows the pregnancy tissues at those stages in the background.

"This is what they want women to die for."





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Anonymous wrote:I dare every so-called "pro-life" voter on here to read this article that shows just what exactly a pregnancy at 5, 7, 8, and 9 weeks looks like. (Hint, you won't see anything at all that resembles the imagery the anti-abortion folk like to toss around. You won't see anything that looks any like a human being either.) Let's remind everyone that the vast majority of abortions take place by around 10 weeks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/pregnancy-weeks-abortion-tissue

And for those who don't want to click on that link, here's a tweet that shows the pregnancy tissues at those stages in the background.

"This is what they want women to die for."




Forced birthers are running away from the facts.
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Anonymous wrote:Women forced to get pills for medical abortions from Mexico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/18/illegal-abortion-pill-network/


And this is how it goes. Abortion goes underground. Because no matter what Republicans crow about, they will never, ever, ever get rid of abortion. Abortion has existed since humankind has existed. Women in desperate situations will ALWAYS seek out a means and way to terminate a pregnancy. Democrats want it to be safe for those women. Republicans don't care about them and will shrug their shoulders when women start to die because of it having gone underground.

On the one hand I'm glad people are reaching out to help these desperate women. On the other hand I'm furious knowing how vulnerable they are and that there will come a day when some malicious person sends poison to a woman seeking abortion pills. And anti-life Republicans will say, too bad, she deserved it.

The cruelty is the point. Making every abortion-seeking woman into a fugitive? Forcing children too young to figure it out for themselves (not every raped child who gets pregnant has a phone and the intellect to find these underground places nor the resources or even mailing address)? The cruelty is the point.

I know it’s unfashionable to use the word “fascism,” but keeping women in a second class, traditional status as cruelly as possible is fascism.



Actually only fascist states legalize murder at will. Which is what many abortion advocates want, instead of some reasonable compromise like all EU countries have.


Roe v Wade was the reasonable compromise. You blew that up.


It was a reasonable compromise -- except it should have been made by Congress, not by the courts. Dems have had decades to codify it, and blew it up.


Dems didn't blow it up, Republicans who installed judges to a stolen SCOTUS seat and were appointed by a President who did not secure the vote of the majority of the American population and who lied their way through confirmation did.


Clarified for you.

Also, lbh, Dems didn't have a filibuster proof majority to "codify Roe" for a very, very long time. Dems handled Roe naively and ineptly, I agree, but this is not on them.


I don’t believe for one second that this hack court wouldn’t strike down a national law enshrining Roe. It would take a constitutional amendment and good luck getting one of them for anything in this environment. We couldn’t even get one passed that says “women are equal”.


100% agree. They've showed they are not willing to stick to judicial precedent and adhere to Stare Decisis, even after saying they would during confirmation hearings. They are not an unbiased legal tribunal any longer. And no one with sense can argue that they (Scotus) are.

+1 In a just world, all six of the lying sacks of crap would be impeached and removed. They’re illegitimate.


Why have they not been impeached? They lied to Congress? is that not a crime? An impeachable offense? Who brings charges against a SCOTUS justice?
Anonymous
The Catholic church is largely to blame for starting this anti-abortion mess. They brainwashed their believers with garbage about the sanctity of life beginning at conception because the Catholic church, which tells women not to use birth control in 2022, wants MORE CATHOLICS!! My mother said that years ago, and it's still true. What a whack-job of a religion. It's a cult, really, with some beautiful architecture.
Anonymous
And, let's face it, the Catholics are correct in that human life does begin at conception. There's no argument against that. But does that embryo have all the same rights as a person? Do the rights of the embryo equal those of its mother? Why, o why do the forced birthers believe that the rights of that clump of cells exceed those of the mother?

I'm AOK with aborting a clump of cells before 12 weeks. After that, it gets a bit more difficult, but on a case by case basis, it's necessary if the life of the mother is in danger and if the fetus has serious issues that mean it won't ever survive outside of the womb even if born at full term.
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