Kyle Rittenhouse: Vigilante White Men

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

WTF? I think this may be true.

It’s obviously true. It’s being reported by The Daily Show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

WTF? I think this may be true.

You people believe anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all are really trying to whitewash this murderer.

If he is found innocent be ready to see more murders by open carry individuals when they feel "threatened", and not necessarily by another weapon. The precedent will give them a license to kill.

m

If you don’t understand how the law works, you should probably refrain from commenting.

If you don't understand how the world works you should probably stay inside your comfy bubble.

Give me a break. Decent, law-abiding people have nothing to fear from the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the three individuals shot that night were absolutely garbage human beings who were in Kenosha that night to trash public and private property. This was not some peaceful march to Selma.

I’m a decent, law abiding citizen. I’ve never put graffiti on someone else’s property or broken windows or set anything on fire or stolen anything or threatened anyone. If people are rioting and there’s a curfew, my teenagers and I will be at home. I was raised in a household with a hunting rifle and am related to multiple hunters, many military veterans, and a Wildlife Officer who supervises multiple rural counties and enforces hunting regulations. None of us would be okay with our teenagers taking on rioters with an AR-15.

You’re not even saying people like me have nothing to fear from KR, specifically; you said we have nothing to fear from “the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world.” That’s BS. We’re normalizing average, untrained citizens, *including minors, in some jurisdictions,* arming themselves to the teeth and taking to the streets when there’s already unrest and law enforcement doesn’t have control of the situation. That’s scary as hell. The curfew was intended to limit the number of people on the streets in order to give law enforcement an advantage and limit confrontations. KR’s presence escalated the landscape from looting and burning to gunfire. If all of his shooting was legally justified self defense, then he can be acquitted, but we cannot pretend that he didn’t exercise extremely poor judgment. We cannot justify anyone else following his example. We should not encourage would-be vigilantes. The next time, there could easily be unintended targets caught in crossfire.

Why are none of the rioters held accountable for breaking curfew? Why is one side, rioting, looting and burning allowed be present, but others standing in front of businesses to help keep them from being looted and burned escalating the landscape. [/b]

Because they were fighting for social justice. And the people trying to stop them from rioting, looting and burning are in opposition to social justice - ergo, they are racists.

This really isn’t hard to follow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are really trying to whitewash this murderer.

If he is found innocent be ready to see more murders by open carry individuals when they feel "threatened", and not necessarily by another weapon. The precedent will give them a license to kill.

m

If you don’t understand how the law works, you should probably refrain from commenting.

If you don't understand how the world works you should probably stay inside your comfy bubble.

Give me a break. Decent, law-abiding people have nothing to fear from the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the three individuals shot that night were absolutely garbage human beings who were in Kenosha that night to trash public and private property. This was not some peaceful march to Selma.

I’m a decent, law abiding citizen. I’ve never put graffiti on someone else’s property or broken windows or set anything on fire or stolen anything or threatened anyone. If people are rioting and there’s a curfew, my teenagers and I will be at home. I was raised in a household with a hunting rifle and am related to multiple hunters, many military veterans, and a Wildlife Officer who supervises multiple rural counties and enforces hunting regulations. None of us would be okay with our teenagers taking on rioters with an AR-15.

You’re not even saying people like me have nothing to fear from KR, specifically; you said we have nothing to fear from “the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world.” That’s BS. We’re normalizing average, untrained citizens, *including minors, in some jurisdictions,* arming themselves to the teeth and taking to the streets when there’s already unrest and law enforcement doesn’t have control of the situation. That’s scary as hell. The curfew was intended to limit the number of people on the streets in order to give law enforcement an advantage and limit confrontations. KR’s presence escalated the landscape from looting and burning to gunfire. If all of his shooting was legally justified self defense, then he can be acquitted, but we cannot pretend that he didn’t exercise extremely poor judgment. We cannot justify anyone else following his example. We should not encourage would-be vigilantes. The next time, there could easily be unintended targets caught in crossfire.

What Kyle Rittenhouse was able to pull off, as an untrained person under pressure, was absolutely amazing. He either was the luckiest person in the world or God was on his side that day to only hit the people who were attacking him and no one else. I'm not convinced that your average trained law enforcement officer or military member would be able to do that either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

ATFKM? That’s the clerk’s job, not the accused’s. I hope at the very least the jury wasn’t in the room when it happened because that’s really problematic.

But since you can’t appeal an acquittal, this judge can pretty much do whatever he wants to throw the case in Rittenhouse’s favor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

ATFKM? That’s the clerk’s job, not the accused’s. I hope at the very least the jury wasn’t in the room when it happened because that’s really problematic.

But since you can’t appeal an acquittal, this judge can pretty much do whatever he wants to throw the case in Rittenhouse’s favor.

Explanation--perhaps this is customary in Wisconsin?

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-11-15/explainer-raffle-drum-will-set-final-12-rittenhouse-jurors

[Anonymous]

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A 17yo went to a city that he didn’t live in, to protect a business he’d never been in, with a gun he wasn’t allow to have, pretending to be something he wasn’t licensed as, killed two people… and will likely be acquitted

OMFG he was allowed to have the gun. Hence the dismissal of the charge.
If you’re going to try and be flip, at least get your facts straight.

And he did live in that city part time. The parents had a split custody agreement and his dad lived there.

Can you point to that? Earlier reporting says the father has a drug and alcohol problem and they had not seen him in months. The mother and her three kids had to go to a domestic violence shelter three times. Maybe he has appeared since Kyle has raised millions of dollars. Kyle has friends in Kenosha he visited. An adult male his mom let him have over night visits with and who bought the gun with Kyle’s money. I think you are making his split custody family life sound rosey. It’s not Kyle’s fault and is probably a factor.

Early in the trial, it was stated he stayed with his father often. I don't remember that is where term shared custody came up or if that was somewhere else. There was one domestic battery charge against the father at one point, but those charges were dropped. The dad has paid his child support all along. The mother is dyslexic and has financial struggles, though, and they have been evicted and lived in a homeless shelter several times, but not a domestic violence shelter as far as I am aware. The dad did have trouble with drugs and alcohol but claims he is clean, for what that is worth. The dad has paid his child support all along.

I'm the PP and of course I should have linked this article. It almost made me feel sorry for him. This was reported in July and of course it is not sworn trial testimony. It sounds like his mom made him work to help support the family. He has two siblings. There is so much misinformation that I don't take anything as whole truth. A lot of the info came from the mother but New Yorker reporters usually check records to verify. This article should have made the defense very happy, despite the title.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhouse-american-vigilante

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

ATFKM? That’s the clerk’s job, not the accused’s. I hope at the very least the jury wasn’t in the room when it happened because that’s really problematic.

But since you can’t appeal an acquittal, this judge can pretty much do whatever he wants to throw the case in Rittenhouse’s favor.

Explanation--perhaps this is customary in Wisconsin?

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-11-15/explainer-raffle-drum-will-set-final-12-rittenhouse-jurors

The article says that it's not customary. But doesn't really matter. It's just extremely unusual. Because the judge can pretty much do whatever he wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all are really trying to whitewash this murderer.

If he is found innocent be ready to see more murders by open carry individuals when they feel "threatened", and not necessarily by another weapon. The precedent will give them a license to kill.

m

If you don’t understand how the law works, you should probably refrain from commenting.

If you don't understand how the world works you should probably stay inside your comfy bubble.

Give me a break. Decent, law-abiding people have nothing to fear from the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the three individuals shot that night were absolutely garbage human beings who were in Kenosha that night to trash public and private property. This was not some peaceful march to Selma.

I’m a decent, law abiding citizen. I’ve never put graffiti on someone else’s property or broken windows or set anything on fire or stolen anything or threatened anyone. If people are rioting and there’s a curfew, my teenagers and I will be at home. I was raised in a household with a hunting rifle and am related to multiple hunters, many military veterans, and a Wildlife Officer who supervises multiple rural counties and enforces hunting regulations. None of us would be okay with our teenagers taking on rioters with an AR-15.

You’re not even saying people like me have nothing to fear from KR, specifically; you said we have nothing to fear from “the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world.” That’s BS. We’re normalizing average, untrained citizens, *including minors, in some jurisdictions,* arming themselves to the teeth and taking to the streets when there’s already unrest and law enforcement doesn’t have control of the situation. That’s scary as hell. The curfew was intended to limit the number of people on the streets in order to give law enforcement an advantage and limit confrontations. KR’s presence escalated the landscape from looting and burning to gunfire. If all of his shooting was legally justified self defense, then he can be acquitted, but we cannot pretend that he didn’t exercise extremely poor judgment. We cannot justify anyone else following his example. We should not encourage would-be vigilantes. The next time, there could easily be unintended targets caught in crossfire.

Why are none of the rioters held accountable for breaking curfew? Why is one side, rioting, looting and burning allowed be present, but others standing in front of businesses to help keep them from being looted and burned escalating the landscape. The police were aware they were there and okay with it at the time per the Wisconsin Examiner:

At 9:57 p.m., around the same time Rittenhouse was guarding the car shop, Kenosha Police Sergeant Adam Jurgens sent a message in the department’s internal messaging system about the presence of armed civilians in the city. Jurgens’ message tells officers they may need to give these civilians an order to “stand down,” but downplays the threat posed by the militias, whom he describes as “very friendly.”

“If problems arise and those groups enter into the mix please provide them verbal orders to stand down if we have the resources to handle the calls for service,” Jurgens wrote. “Very friendly but we need to handle our business in-house as much as possible.”

About 45 minutes later, law enforcement officers driving by the dealership in an armored vehicle offer Rittenhouse’s group water. On a live-streamed video of this exchange, one of the officers echoes Jurgens’ tone of friendship to the counter protesters carrying AR-15 style rifles.

“We appreciate you guys. We really do,” one of those officers can be heard saying to Rittenhouse and his group.

This is really one of the most upsetting things. You have a 17 year old with a rifle who wants to be a “good guy” and the police are freaking encouraging him!!! No wonder he didn’t think there was anything wrong with him being there. His mom didn’t dissuade him. The cops welcomed him. They have a hand in this as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

ATFKM? That’s the clerk’s job, not the accused’s. I hope at the very least the jury wasn’t in the room when it happened because that’s really problematic.

But since you can’t appeal an acquittal, this judge can pretty much do whatever he wants to throw the case in Rittenhouse’s favor.

Explanation--perhaps this is customary in Wisconsin?

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-11-15/explainer-raffle-drum-will-set-final-12-rittenhouse-jurors

The article says that it's not customary. But doesn't really matter. It's just extremely unusual. Because the judge can pretty much do whatever he wants.

Judge and prosecutor want KR to walk. There is no will to send him to jail for murdering two people and hurting a third. Wish we could all be KR and never face responsibility for our actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

WTF? I think this may be true.

You people believe anything

And you are utterly humorless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

WTF? I think this may be true.

You people believe anything

And you are utterly humorless.

Trevor Noah is not very funny...

[Anonymous]

So no quick half-day deliberations and acquittal.

Now we're in for a wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was KR the one to select the jury numbers?

WTF? I think this may be true.

You people believe anything

And you are utterly humorless.

Trevor Noah is not very funny...

I’m sure he’ll take your opinion into account.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no quick half-day deliberations and acquittal.

Now we're in for a wait.

Well that means he is getting convicted for sure!

Hung jury.