Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


I agree. Further, it’s not sexual harassment.
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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.

If BL did indeed have a problem with this, the problem is her. She is the problem here. She is evidently too self conscious to be on the big screen. A good actor is supposed to become the character.
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^^she can tell her buddy TS, It’s me, I’m the problem, it’s me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^she can tell her buddy TS, It’s me, I’m the problem, it’s me.


EX - buddy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.



This is horrible advice. It was both their trainers and it was perfectly acceptable. BTW, I’m a lawyer and can tell that you are not.
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Asking someone’s weight is not sexual harassment.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


Lol, you’re not a former employment lawyer.

Np
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.

These are actors though. They are playing characters in a film. Her weight and looks are relevant as she is supposed to become the character. We aren’t talking about an office job, BL and JB aren’t accountants.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.

These are actors though. They are playing characters in a film. Her weight and looks are relevant as she is supposed to become the character. We aren’t talking about an office job, BL and JB aren’t accountants.


There are many jobs where a person's weight is relevant (dancer, acrobat, wrestler, military, personal trainer, to name a few) but in none of them would going behind their back to ask their trainer what their weight is be the appropriate way to address it. You would just address it via a formal process for whatever whatever job requirement was impacted by their weight.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.

These are actors though. They are playing characters in a film. Her weight and looks are relevant as she is supposed to become the character. We aren’t talking about an office job, BL and JB aren’t accountants.


There are many jobs where a person's weight is relevant (dancer, acrobat, wrestler, military, personal trainer, to name a few) but in none of them would going behind their back to ask their trainer what their weight is be the appropriate way to address it. You would just address it via a formal process for whatever whatever job requirement was impacted by their weight.


Wow. You definitely know about variegated work environments!

A lot of sturm und drung, so much pain and anxiety experienced, by a couple who talk about buttholes via text to someone they claim harassed them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.

These are actors though. They are playing characters in a film. Her weight and looks are relevant as she is supposed to become the character. We aren’t talking about an office job, BL and JB aren’t accountants.


There are many jobs where a person's weight is relevant (dancer, acrobat, wrestler, military, personal trainer, to name a few) but in none of them would going behind their back to ask their trainer what their weight is be the appropriate way to address it. You would just address it via a formal process for whatever whatever job requirement was impacted by their weight.

BL was miscast here, yes she was too heavy, too old, too matronly for this part. Both JB and BL seem very unprofessional for various reasons, but for BL to be offended by JB inquiring about her weight is extremely insecure especially for a supposed actor.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.

These are actors though. They are playing characters in a film. Her weight and looks are relevant as she is supposed to become the character. We aren’t talking about an office job, BL and JB aren’t accountants.


There are many jobs where a person's weight is relevant (dancer, acrobat, wrestler, military, personal trainer, to name a few) but in none of them would going behind their back to ask their trainer what their weight is be the appropriate way to address it. You would just address it via a formal process for whatever whatever job requirement was impacted by their weight.

BL was miscast here, yes she was too heavy, too old, too matronly for this part. Both JB and BL seem very unprofessional for various reasons, but for BL to be offended by JB inquiring about her weight is extremely insecure especially for a supposed actor.


Yep. The visuals were so off that she never read as physically endangered by him. Lively’s cluelessly unflattering expensive lumberjill styling added to that disconnect.
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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.


But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.


It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.


No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.


I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.


Well I'm a former employment lawyer and I would advise against it because it is precisely it's precisely the kind of thing that upsets people and exposes you to litigation. My advice to any employer or professional would be that if there is a touchy topic like this, you should (1) see if you can solve the problem without obtaining the personal information at all, or if that is not possible (2) go through a system where it is not you, personally, asking the question, but it's going through some kind de-personalized process that you can stay at arms length from. Like in this case I would have suggested hiring a stunt coordinator to choreograph the lift and work separately with both actors, and the stunt coordinator could have had Lively directly disclose her weight in a confidential way and then the coordinator can make an assessment about the safety of the lift (or change it to make it safer) based on that info, without ever disclosing the sensitive info.

Asking behind her back was a dumb move and he should have recognized that. I have seen managers do similar things regarding personal info like an employees physical or mental health condition, family status, etc., and it can go south very quickly.


You are not an employment lawyer, but nice try.

These are actors though. They are playing characters in a film. Her weight and looks are relevant as she is supposed to become the character. We aren’t talking about an office job, BL and JB aren’t accountants.


There are many jobs where a person's weight is relevant (dancer, acrobat, wrestler, military, personal trainer, to name a few) but in none of them would going behind their back to ask their trainer what their weight is be the appropriate way to address it. You would just address it via a formal process for whatever whatever job requirement was impacted by their weight.

BL was miscast here, yes she was too heavy, too old, too matronly for this part. Both JB and BL seem very unprofessional for various reasons, but for BL to be offended by JB inquiring about her weight is extremely insecure especially for a supposed actor.


If she was miscast, is that her fault or the fault of the people who cast her (JB/Wayfarer)?
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