Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

Blake has definitely given JB is 15 minutes of fame moment with this. No one really knew who he was before and now his name is everywhere. They do say there is no such thing really as bad press. I guess time will tell if all this attention and publicity helps or hurts his career. Name recognition can go a long way although he will always now be connected to Blake and these issues.

Ryan Reynolds had a lot of fame beofre this. He is really the only one who had a public reputation to ruin. Blake's name recognition was pretty much limited to being married to Ryan and friends with Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

But we are and you have the choice not to engage.

It’s a train wreck, I know I shouldn’t care but I hate mean girls and greaseball dorky wanna be guys. It’s just like a silly HS drama and I am bored I guess? It’s such nonsense.

It’s not nonsense to falsely accuse people of sexual harassment and it turns out to be lies. That is a big deal and it’s wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.

But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.

It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

But we are and you have the choice not to engage.

It’s a train wreck, I know I shouldn’t care but I hate mean girls and greaseball dorky wanna be guys. It’s just like a silly HS drama and I am bored I guess? It’s such nonsense.

It’s not nonsense to falsely accuse people of sexual harassment and it turns out to be lies. That is a big deal and it’s wrong.

It happens, crap happens. I hate myself for entertaining this.

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I agree he comes across more as tone deaf, fake, and anxious - more than malicious.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

So, no links.

DP but this essay from a journalist who interviewed Baldoni before all this happened was enlightening to me.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/celebrity/article/justin-baldoni-blake-lively-andrew-billen-vrdsqb569

He does sound like an anxious, conflicted person, and I could see how that is part of what landed him in this situation. I think he has Issues and then took on way too much (as director, actor, producer here) and made some mistakes that crossed the line on this movie. In fact, even Justin Baldoni himself agrees with that assessment! Here is a link to an episode of his podcast recorded after filming IEWU where he talks about "the last six months":

https://youtu.be/451Rr_KJTvE?si=ygrGHql5kcxHnRAK&t=676

Key quote: "And while I've been gone, I was confronted with some real situations in which I had to re-read my own book.And I had to be like "Oh, wow." Because of the unique situation that I was in,so many traumas came up, that I was resorting to seventh grade vocabulary.And like literally, the seventh grade Justin, who was in that moment, in the driver's seatof whatever situation I was in, was in control. And I didn't realize that until afterwards.And thank God for incredible women who were able to mirror me, and give me feedback.I was able to go "Oh wait, I'm not myself right now." And that happened quite a few times while I've been gone.Thank God for my wife. And my family, and my best friends who were like"Hey J, what's going on? You okay?" And I had to re-read my own book. And I say this metaphorically in many ways.I didn't literally go back and re-read my own book, but I read other people's books. And listened to other people's books.And dug deep and meditated, and prayed a lot. And had to go in and go like, "Oh wait, I'm off course.""I need to course-correct here. "And you know what, I shouldn't of said that. "Why did I say that?" Let me go in and talk to the part of methat felt defensive in that moment, or insecure in that moment. "Why did I say that? Why did I do that?"

Literally his own words.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

But we are and you have the choice not to engage.

It’s a train wreck, I know I shouldn’t care but I hate mean girls and greaseball dorky wanna be guys. It’s just like a silly HS drama and I am bored I guess? It’s such nonsense.

It’s not nonsense to falsely accuse people of sexual harassment and it turns out to be lies. That is a big deal and it’s wrong.

Why do we care about Justin Baldoni so much? Worry about your own male relatives and friends being victims of women like BL. I have personal experience with this. It sucks and BL is the worst type of person.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

DP but the texts he has released on his website have his fellow producers or the Sony people talking about how over anxious he is. If he were a woman we would have pages by now about how desperately he needed therapy and anxiety meds and maybe should have found another profession if he wasn’t temperamentally suited to Hollywood.

Why are you speculating as to how anyone other than you would regard him were he female? Try to be less manipulative and for yourself and attempt if you have any capacity to discuss verifiable acts and communications.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

But we are and you have the choice not to engage.

It’s a train wreck, I know I shouldn’t care but I hate mean girls and greaseball dorky wanna be guys. It’s just like a silly HS drama and I am bored I guess? It’s such nonsense.

It’s not nonsense to falsely accuse people of sexual harassment and it turns out to be lies. That is a big deal and it’s wrong.

It happens, crap happens. I hate myself for entertaining this.

The moderators are not going to stop people here who are talking on topic. If you’re so unstable that you can’t handle that, go.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.

But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.

It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.

No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.

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Parody with a massive wardrobe upgrade!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzd0PVdgoiA&t=42s&pp=2AEqkAIB

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

Yes! His tone deafness towards real women’s actual needs and feelings is so weird given his active stance as a male feminist. I saw online where his wife told him he actually still needs to work quite a bit harder at it, which makes sense to me given the stuff he was doing in here.

This was something other people in the industry had said about him too. I think it must stem from anxiety. He tries really hard to come across like he is one person but that isn't who he actually is - but a front he puts on of who he thinks people will like. In the end it makes him very two faced.

Oh, so you know him? I thought he was so unsuccessful that he was beneath notice. But he’s famed for his hypocrisy? This is sourced? Hm, makes sense. Certainly you have a bunch of primary sources to link right?

I hate that we are even talking about any of these people. I never even thought of BL and RR prior to this, I had never heard of JB and I am now sorry that I am even aware. None of these people are talented enough to warrant this attention.

But we are and you have the choice not to engage.

It’s a train wreck, I know I shouldn’t care but I hate mean girls and greaseball dorky wanna be guys. It’s just like a silly HS drama and I am bored I guess? It’s such nonsense.

It’s not nonsense to falsely accuse people of sexual harassment and it turns out to be lies. That is a big deal and it’s wrong.

It happens, crap happens. I hate myself for entertaining this.

The moderators are not going to stop people here who are talking on topic. If you’re so unstable that you can’t handle that, go.

Right? If you are so upset why are you in this thread?!

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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.

But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.

It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.

No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.

I mean, we are talking about actors here. It’s a notoriously superficial business. Perhaps BL and JB are in the wrong field. They are snowflakes.

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Anonymous wrote:Parody with a massive wardrobe upgrade!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzd0PVdgoiA&t=42s&pp=2AEqkAIB

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Anonymous wrote:If you are crying over a back injury and then have to lift someone up and have MEDICAL restrictions it is completely appropriate to ask for someone’s weight.

But asking her trainer behind her back was very much the wrong way to go about it. Like just think.

He should have worked with a stunt coordinator who could have figured out if it was safe for him to lift her without that kind invasion of privacy, or just reworked the scene so he didn't lift her. He was the director, not just an actor on the movie, so the solutions available to him were actually pretty extensive.

To be clear, I don't think asking her trainer about her weight was harassment. I just think it was an incredibly stupid way to handle that situation.

It was the perfect way, because he did not want to upset Blake by asking her directly. But go off on one of your four paragraph diatribes, please.

No and I say this trying to be helpful: if you are ever in a situation where you have to lift a woman (or anyone actually) for work and you are unsure if you can do so safely, the answer is never "I will go and ask this person's trainer/physician/dietician/assistant what they weigh." It's not a smart way to handle that, it comes off as very invasive. A lot of people are self-conscious about their weight and would be very uncomfortable having it discussed in that way.

I'm a woman and would have no issue with this whatsoever. He's clearly trying to not upset her by talking about her weight with her directly.