People shaming/gossiping over those in their circle taking ozempic?

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

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I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

DP here. Let's cut out the exercise part and just discuss the "eating healthfully" part. Have you, poster who is claiming people on these meds are not eating "healthfully," ever been on them? Because I have, and can tell you from firsthand experience that the whole point is that the GLP-1 forces you to eat healthfully. If I overeat, if I eat fast food or similar or food that is too rich or too whatever, I will be sick as a dog. Any not healthful food and I have diarrhea and intense nausea.

So if you want to claim that taking the meds is the lazy way out because people are getting a chemical boost that makes their brain make better choices vs their non-medicated brain exerting extreme willpower and fighting through deprivation to lose weight, ok, I will disagree with you but at least your argument is rational. But to say people on these meds are not losing weight through eating better but rather through something else is just flat out wrong. If they were still eating the same way as before, they wouldn't lose the weight.

They might still be eating the same way, just less of it, thanks to the brain fix.

Unhealthy food makes many people sick on these meds.

Many, not all. I’ve read these boards long enough to see that not everyone is changing the type of food they are eating.

Any not everyone loses on these meds. It isn’t guaranteed. Some people complain about not responding and they inevitably aren’t tracking calories. The people I know who have lost a good amount count calories and do exercise (though eating is the more important part).

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Because they took the lazy way out.

Why do you think losing weight should be hard? Serious question.

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Sure Larla's cancer is in remission -- but she just had surgery and it worked. She didn't have to have chemo or radiation. She did it the easy way.

Comparing weightloss to cancer?

Are you trying to look like a joke?

OK, so you did not like PPs analogy, fine. You still have not responded to the clearly worded question: why do you want weight loss to be hard for other people?

Look, there is benefit in doing hard things.

As someone who has ben obese as a child and much of my adult life, most of us overeat for deep emotional reasons. It's not just because we love bread so much. Cool, a GLP1 will reduce your appetite and thus help you lose weight. But it never helps the person get to the deep reason why they coped with food in the first place. It's the reason why most regain when they go off the drug, and also the reaosn why most people re-gain in general.

Doing the deep emotional work is challenging and hard, but that's the only way one can untangle the bad habits in the first place to relaly fix them. Sorry that you feel butt hurt over that.

I want everyone to be healthy, but you can't fix the mind just by losing some pounds. Them's them hard apple facts.

Again, why do you want ***other people*** to work harder than is strictly necessary to lose weight? Why do you comment at all on other people’s medicine decisions?

As an aside, this is an endocrine drug that manipulates gastric hormones secreted in the intestines. Not sure why you’re bringing TikTok psycho babble into it.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

DP here. PP is right. You made the claim. You need to prove it. As Hitchens's Razor says, "That which which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".

Not on a GLP but….Calories in, calories out still applies. They are still in calorie deficit because science.

Not always. I eat & feel 100% the same off and on GLP-1. The difference? I’m able to lose weight (s l o w l y) while on GLP. Oh and lowered my A1c (prediabetic), cholesterol and BP.

CICO still applies. It’s your burn rate that is changing.

Doesn't that a prove the opposite? That it's not just cico, but actually also something also that affects metabolism or burn rate?

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

Your gaslighting is not working on me. I see you for who you truly are. A miserable, bitter person who needs to lash out at people to make herself feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

+10000

So much projection from that one. She'll find out soon that she may be sinny, but is still miserable, angry, and insecure. The meds help people lose weight - but they don't undo the undelying brain brokenness.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

Your gaslighting is not working on me. I see you for who you truly are. A miserable, bitter person who needs to lash out at people to make herself feel better.

No gaslighting and lashing out. You folks are the ones swearing at posters.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

+10000

So much projection from that one. She'll find out soon that she may be sinny, but is still miserable, angry, and insecure. The meds help people lose weight - but they don't undo the undelying brain brokenness.

DP - do you not see the irony of your post?

This certainly adds credence to the comments above that point out your lack of self-awareness, and even the ones that invoke the likelihood of Dunning Kruger

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

+10000

So much projection from that one. She'll find out soon that she may be sinny, but is still miserable, angry, and insecure. The meds help people lose weight - but they don't undo the undelying brain brokenness.

I know you get a jolt when you wish for people to fail, but I’m not the one calling people lazy for taking a step towards getting healthy. I’m not the one who desperate to tear people down when they have done absolutely nothing to me. You’re doing that.

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Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

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So much projection from that one. She'll find out soon that she may be sinny, but is still miserable, angry, and insecure. The meds help people lose weight - but they don't undo the undelying brain brokenness.

Loving the picture of you two standing around the party gossiping about people you don’t know, agreeing with each other’s mean-spirited observations,

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Why do you think losing weight should be hard? Serious question.

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Sure Larla's cancer is in remission -- but she just had surgery and it worked. She didn't have to have chemo or radiation. She did it the easy way.

Comparing weightloss to cancer?

Are you trying to look like a joke?

OK, so you did not like PPs analogy, fine. You still have not responded to the clearly worded question: why do you want weight loss to be hard for other people?

Look, there is benefit in doing hard things.

As someone who has ben obese as a child and much of my adult life, most of us overeat for deep emotional reasons. It's not just because we love bread so much. Cool, a GLP1 will reduce your appetite and thus help you lose weight. But it never helps the person get to the deep reason why they coped with food in the first place. It's the reason why most regain when they go off the drug, and also the reaosn why most people re-gain in general.

Doing the deep emotional work is challenging and hard, but that's the only way one can untangle the bad habits in the first place to relaly fix them. Sorry that you feel butt hurt over that.

I want everyone to be healthy, but you can't fix the mind just by losing some pounds. Them's them hard apple facts.

Gained 90 pounds as a result of medication that causes massive weight gain. If I want to live, I have to take the medication.No “deep emotional work“ is going to fix that. “Them’s them hard apple facts.”

Sincere question. How much are you eating now? If you gained all 90lbs because of a medication (and not over-eating), then you must be eating barely a couple hundred calories now with a GLP1.

Sincere answer. Between 1000 and 1400 cal a day or so; the nutritionist my doctor had me see told me I have to track and make sure I don't dip below 900.

When medication messes up your metabolism, your metabolic rate can go way down -- and you can eat what would be a weight-loss daily calorie budget for the average person and still gain weight. That's the thing -- how do you define "over eating"? I think people look at obese persons and picture them stuffing themselves with twinkies or something, and that simply isn't always the case. I can eat significantly less than other people who are literally on a diet, and still gain weight. The other wrinkle in this is that some medications will affect hormones in such a way that a 300lb person's brain is sending out hormone's that tell the body it is starving, which makes it virtually impossible to not overeat. People will just say "They have no discipline, they have no willpower, just don't eat the cake at the birthday party..." but current obesity science will tell you that that is almost like telling some people not to breathe. The people who don't have this problem can never understand it (or at least most never will, anyway -- some of the scientists studying obesity do). Obesity is a disease; things are happening in the body that are maladaptive. Like with an autoimmune disorder where the immune system is confused and attacking your body ... with obesity the body can get confused and think it is dangerously thin and try to handle that hormonally when it is in fact obese. It is a very hard thing, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But people who don't understand really need to stop pushing their judgment. Well, people need to stop pushing judgment at other people in general, but that's a battle never to be won with education. Hopefully this one will be. Because stigma and judgment is awful.