Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

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Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

It would give you more confidence in your choices? Working.
So... are you saying you wouldn't take offense at having your lifestyle choice judged and mocked? Puh-leeze. The WOHMs on this thread are the biggest bunch of hypocrites I've seen in a long time. If you don't like your childcare choices denigrated, don't disparage others' in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

Wow that's quite a spin on what's actually happened here. And I wouldn't call this opinion of SAHMs a minority opinion (as you've repeatedly informed us by pointing out that you're not the only WOHM posting here).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Damn. SAHMs - consider yourself lucky to have this choice. My husband passed and I'm working and trying to be the best mom I can. Please don't make me feel guilty that I can't stay home. I wish I could.

I'm so sorry pp, you have my sympathies and I'd never judge you for working. I don't judge any mom who chooses to work. I help my working mom friends with babysitting (free) when I can.

I've only responded to the working mom on here because she has been blasting SAHMs and posting some very hurtful opinions, I haven't spoken out against working moms at all. I plan to go back to work too, when ds is a little older. I have respect for working moms, it's not easy doing both!

I'm sure you weren't judging my situation. I tend to take any small comment and feel guilty. Because deep down I do feel guilty that my child has to go to aftercare and to summer camp all summer. It wasn't how I grew up and it wasn't what I wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Ok. So it's unfair to the children to have a parent in the home caring for them? So your kids are better off in day care than they are with you? Speak for yourself pp. if that's how you honestly feel, why not put them up for adoption? That's your logic, right, it's unfair to the kids to be at home with mom (or dad)?

You're so stupid it's painful.

Maybe you're right. Maybe in your case the kids are better off at day care. You're so angry over my confusion with your logic that you call names and refuse to elaborate.

It is unfair to children to put one parent in a situation where they have to work crazy hours / constantly be on call because the other parent doesn't want to work. This is a VERY common dynamic in many DC area families. I absolutely believe that it is better for children to spend a reasonable amount of time with a loving caregiver and have both parents present in their lives.

Clearer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

Wow that's quite a spin on what's actually happened here. And I wouldn't call this opinion of SAHMs a minority opinion (as you've repeatedly informed us by pointing out that you're not the only WOHM posting here).

Again, not that poster. Shouldn't you be off super-mommying?

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Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

Wow that's quite a spin on what's actually happened here. And I wouldn't call this opinion of SAHMs a minority opinion (as you've repeatedly informed us by pointing out that you're not the only WOHM posting here).

I am not the poster who posted she's not the only wohm posting. I'm the one that said the post specifically asked for your opinion that's in the strong monority. I wouldn't keep clicking the thread if I was offended! It's just fueling the fire (or the many pages of debate!)

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Ok. So it's unfair to the children to have a parent in the home caring for them? So your kids are better off in day care than they are with you? Speak for yourself pp. if that's how you honestly feel, why not put them up for adoption? That's your logic, right, it's unfair to the kids to be at home with mom (or dad)?

You're so stupid it's painful.

Maybe you're right. Maybe in your case the kids are better off at day care. You're so angry over my confusion with your logic that you call names and refuse to elaborate.

It is unfair to children to put one parent in a situation where they have to work crazy hours / constantly be on call because the other parent doesn't want to work. This is a VERY common dynamic in many, DC area families. I absolutely believe that it is better for children to spend a reasonable amount of time with a loving caregiver and have both parents present in their lives.

Clearer?

So your only exposure to the SAHM lifestyle is the fictional one in which the husband is worked to the bone, late hours, never seeing the kids, while the mom whiles away her days at Starbucks? Sorry, you are so out of touch with reality. The moms I know, including myself, have husbands who are generally home for dinner and don't work excessive hours.

You really need to get out more. There's a whole wide world that isn't based in stereotype.

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Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

Wow that's quite a spin on what's actually happened here. And I wouldn't call this opinion of SAHMs a minority opinion (as you've repeatedly informed us by pointing out that you're not the only WOHM posting here).

Again, not that poster. Shouldn't you be off super-mommying?

You mean you're not off working hard at your high-paying career? Snort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Ok. So it's unfair to the children to have a parent in the home caring for them? So your kids are better off in day care than they are with you? Speak for yourself pp. if that's how you honestly feel, why not put them up for adoption? That's your logic, right, it's unfair to the kids to be at home with mom (or dad)?

You're so stupid it's painful.

Maybe you're right. Maybe in your case the kids are better off at day care. You're so angry over my confusion with your logic that you call names and refuse to elaborate.

It is unfair to children to put one parent in a situation where they have to work crazy hours / constantly be on call because the other parent doesn't want to work. This is a VERY common dynamic in many DC area families. I absolutely believe that it is better for children to spend a reasonable amount of time with a loving caregiver and have both parents present in their lives.

Clearer?

Wow pp, that's a very narrow-minded perspective you have there. I could easily change a few words in these couple of sentences you just wrote and create a POV that is very unfavorable towards working parents, but I wont, because I know it wouldn't be true for all families with working parents.

You see, in my house, dh doesn't work crazy hours. He goes in in the morning and comes home just before dinner. He gets to spend plenty of time with ds. Nobody is crazy stressed because we are all contributing to the family/household. Everybody is working, even me, the SAHM. Nobody is on call, that I'm aware of, we are both available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Ok. So it's unfair to the children to have a parent in the home caring for them? So your kids are better off in day care than they are with you? Speak for yourself pp. if that's how you honestly feel, why not put them up for adoption? That's your logic, right, it's unfair to the kids to be at home with mom (or dad)?

You're so stupid it's painful.

Maybe you're right. Maybe in your case the kids are better off at day care. You're so angry over my confusion with your logic that you call names and refuse to elaborate.

It is unfair to children to put one parent in a situation where they have to work crazy hours / constantly be on call because the other parent doesn't want to work. This is a VERY common dynamic in many, DC area families. I absolutely believe that it is better for children to spend a reasonable amount of time with a loving caregiver and have both parents present in their lives.

Clearer?

So your only exposure to the SAHM lifestyle is the fictional one in which the husband is worked to the bone, late hours, never seeing the kids, while the mom whiles away her days at Starbucks? Sorry, you are so out of touch with reality. The moms I know, including myself, have husbands who are generally home for dinner and don't work excessive hours.

You really need to get out more. There's a whole wide world that isn't based in stereotype.

NP. I'm a wohm. I don't hate sahm. But, it's not necessarily a fictional lifestyle you speak of. My dad was a physician and never home for dinner, worked to the bone. We didn't have Starbucks, but my mom went antiquing during the day while we were at school . So what!?! Both my parents were loving, caring, all the things you checked on the boxes of good childhood. Dad didn't have dinner with us- I'm not unstable because of it. So, just because it's not your experience or seem made up, doesn't mean it is!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol. Ok. So it's unfair to the children to have a parent in the home caring for them? So your kids are better off in day care than they are with you? Speak for yourself pp. if that's how you honestly feel, why not put them up for adoption? That's your logic, right, it's unfair to the kids to be at home with mom (or dad)?

You're so stupid it's painful.

Maybe you're right. Maybe in your case the kids are better off at day care. You're so angry over my confusion with your logic that you call names and refuse to elaborate.

It is unfair to children to put one parent in a situation where they have to work crazy hours / constantly be on call because the other parent doesn't want to work. This is a VERY common dynamic in many DC area families. I absolutely believe that it is better for children to spend a reasonable amount of time with a loving caregiver and have both parents present in their lives.

Clearer?

Wow pp, that's a very narrow-minded perspective you have there. I could easily change a few words in these couple of sentences you just wrote and create a POV that is very unfavorable towards working parents, but I wont, because I know it wouldn't be true for all families with working parents.

You see, in my house, dh doesn't work crazy hours. He goes in in the morning and comes home just before dinner. He gets to spend plenty of time with ds. Nobody is crazy stressed because we are all contributing to the family/household. Everybody is working, even me, the SAHM. Nobody is on call, that I'm aware of, we are both available.

And, for the millionth time, I wasn't saying this is true in all situations. It isn't even true in most. I was saying it IN THE CASE of the original "unfair" comment, which is what the previous post was asking about.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Ok. So it's unfair to the children to have a parent in the home caring for them? So your kids are better off in day care than they are with you? Speak for yourself pp. if that's how you honestly feel, why not put them up for adoption? That's your logic, right, it's unfair to the kids to be at home with mom (or dad)?

You're so stupid it's painful.

Maybe you're right. Maybe in your case the kids are better off at day care. You're so angry over my confusion with your logic that you call names and refuse to elaborate.

It is unfair to children to put one parent in a situation where they have to work crazy hours / constantly be on call because the other parent doesn't want to work. This is a VERY common dynamic in many DC area families. I absolutely believe that it is better for children to spend a reasonable amount of time with a loving caregiver and have both parents present in their lives.

Clearer?

Wow pp, that's a very narrow-minded perspective you have there. I could easily change a few words in these couple of sentences you just wrote and create a POV that is very unfavorable towards working parents, but I wont, because I know it wouldn't be true for all families with working parents.

You see, in my house, dh doesn't work crazy hours. He goes in in the morning and comes home just before dinner. He gets to spend plenty of time with ds. Nobody is crazy stressed because we are all contributing to the family/household. Everybody is working, even me, the SAHM. Nobody is on call, that I'm aware of, we are both available.

See previous post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

Wow that's quite a spin on what's actually happened here. And I wouldn't call this opinion of SAHMs a minority opinion (as you've repeatedly informed us by pointing out that you're not the only WOHM posting here).

Again, not that poster. Shouldn't you be off super-mommying?

You mean you're not off working hard at your high-paying career? Snort.

I'm sitting at a computer. And now I'm off to get my kids, and I won't be on my phone while they're awake. And look at me, I don't even brag but about wonderful it is for them to spend so much time with me! What a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Damn. SAHMs - consider yourself lucky to have this choice. My husband passed and I'm working and trying to be the best mom I can. Please don't make me feel guilty that I can't stay home. I wish I could.

I'm truly sorry for your loss. But this thread devolved specifically because some WOHMs made it clear how much they despise and look down upon SAHMs. The SAHMs here are simply defending themselves and their choice to be at home. We all know just how fortunate we are to have this choice and no one was saying that all moms have the choice in the first place - of course most do not. The women here who have been so disparaging were saying that we are "wasting our lives" and our education by not holding down a paying job. Naturally, we're going to respond to that ignorance. It has nothing to do with your situation, or that of any parent who wants to stay home but can't. If you'd read through all of the posts, you'd see that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, in Australia there is some Muslim lawyer woman that screemed intolerance over a t-shirt that said love it or leave, regarding the national flag. If she hadn't made a stink over it, no one would be sending her hate mail. Personally, I feel the same way. If you hate America so much GTFO, whether you're white, black, purple whatever.

You poor misguided soul! This has become the "duke it out over SAHM" thread - far from the original header.... so sorry! You will have to start a NEW thread (which, will, of course, become another SAHM thread...) oh well. This really is a one-note town.

Yes, this thread rapidly disintegrated and why? Oh, that's right. Because some moron chose to call SAHMs lazy and then others chimed in with their agreement. See what happens when you denigrate someone's lifestyle because you just don't approve of it? People tend to defend themselves.

But, the thread specifically asked for an opinion You have that is in the strong minority. See what happens when someone has an opinion that's in the minority? They're called a moron, attacked, and accused of not raising their own children, being unhappy, and needing a day off! Kudos to you SAHM on this thread! You're quite non-judgmental yourselves. Or, can't handle someone having an opinion you don't agree with.

Wow that's quite a spin on what's actually happened here. And I wouldn't call this opinion of SAHMs a minority opinion (as you've repeatedly informed us by pointing out that you're not the only WOHM posting here).

Again, not that poster. Shouldn't you be off super-mommying?

I never claimed to be a super mommy, I guess that's how you are viewing me.